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    2 accredited casino affiliates spammed me 1 hour apart: Sun Palace & English Harbour

    Tonight I received TWO different spams promoting TWO different ACCREDITED casinos.


    In BOTH cases, live chat brushed me off.

    The English Harbour rep's exact words were 'what do you want me to do about it?'


    The first one promoting Sun Palace Casino came from affiliate id #24470 and is written to deceive, making one think it came from the casino itself and includes personal info.

    Not surprisingly it traces back to the same server that The Virtual Group uses and there are many scam/spam sites also registered to the same IP address.

    Welcome to Sun Palace

    Dear Roanan,

    Just writing to let you know that Sun Palace has exciting new software and to extend a warm invitation for you to try their new games and get $500 in extra chips.

    With imagery reminiscent of Monte-Carlo, Sun Palace is every bit as beautiful and luxurious as its name suggests. Enjoy high limits, multi-million dollar jackpots, exceptional service and an unparalleled comps program.

    Choose for over 100 exciting games including blackjack and other popular card and table games plus a fabulous selection of video pokers and slot machines. For your convenience SPC offers the following deposit methods: Visa, MasterCard, UseMyWallet, eWallet Xpress, Gift Cards, Money Orders, Cashiers Checks and more.

    Getting setup is easy, just download the deluxe software and you will be playing in minutes.

    To claim your extra chips, proceed to the cashier and make your deposit. Your bonus will then be automatically credited to your account.

    If you require assistance, SPC has dedicated and friendly customer service representatives are available to serve you 24 hours a day.
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    Welcome to Sun Palace!

    Kind regards,

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    P.S.

    I have included some information on our Certification and Fairness Policy. Since December 2002 Sun Palace has paid out over $17 Million in winnings. To ensure absolute fairness and full function of the system including its ongoing accuracy, a sophisticated RNG (Random Number Generator) is utilized. The software carries an official Certificate of RNG Evaluation from TST (Technical Systems Testing), a respected Accredited Testing Facility and principal consultants to major gaming regulatory bodies worldwide including in Nevada.

    TST performs RNG Evaluations with a special emphasis on the distribution and unpredictability of the RNG application. TST has verified through mathematical and statistical analysis that the RNG distributes numbers with sufficient non-predictably, for distribution and lack of bias to particular outcomes. Furthermore, the average payout percentage, which is the percentage of total winnings to total wagered amounts, is reviewed on a monthly basis to ensure our system's on-going randomness and fairness. For your added protection, we maintain a complete audit trail of each individual transaction for all the games that you play. At your request we would be pleased to make these files available to you for inspection.

    Sun Palace uses the credit card services of Park Lane Services Ltd., ensuring secure, fast and easy online transaction processing. Park Lane Services Ltd. is a multinational firm that handles thousands of secure online transactions every day. It is of the utmost importance to us that you are completely confident and comfortable with all your transactions while playing at Sun Palace. Thank you.

    American Players Welcome Great Ongoing Comps Exciting New Games

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    Please click here to unsubscribe from future e-mailings.



    The second spam promotes English Harbour properties: Each time you click the link you get a different casino: VIP Slots, Super Slots and Millionaire Casinohave poppedup so far.

    The affiliate id is 82959


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    I would appreciate it if the CM reps would be so kind as to shut down these accounts and ban these unscrupulous affiliates immediately.

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    Got one for Red Flush too

    Almost forgot about the one I got from Red Flush this morning.

    Aff ID ec201224, aff_email__campaign_59_572984

    If this e-mail is not displayed properly, use the following link:
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    More English Harbour SPAM from the same affiliate listed in the OP.

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    I have tried contacting them repeatedly, and I am having NO success.

    They have ignored all emails and live chat STILL have the same ignorant attitude.

    Plus, these emails are all written in away that seems to be coming from the casino itself.


    According to the Accredited Casino Rules:

    Marketing Standards
    Must not use false, misleading or deceptive advertising.
    Must not spam, and must take appropriate actions against any affiliates or any third parties who do spam


    Which they are NOT doing.

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    For the third day in a row I have attempted to contact someone at English Harbour regarding this spam.

    Today, they made their OFFICIAL POSITION be known:


    One of our Representatives will be with you in a moment. The estimated wait time is 7 seconds.

    You are now chatting with 'Nina'

    Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK145020204693X

    Nina: Welcome to Casino Support. How may I assist you today?
    you: Am I allowed to chat with a manager yet, or are you planning to slough me off a third day in a row?
    Nina: Hi
    Nina: Is it possible you can give us a detailed explanation of your issue so I can put you through a supervisor or manager?
    you: I have a problem with an unscrupulous affiliate whois spamming
    Nina: About Spam e-mail there is not much we can do for you unfortunately as we do not send it out we are unable to control the spam traffic.
    Nina: We do not send them out, and since we are not the ones sending it out we are not able to stop it. Please accept our apologies.

    you: okay...keep that particilar attitude. As a Casinomeister accredited casino you are REQUIREDto obey the rules, that include: Marketing Standards Must not use false, misleading or deceptive advertising. Must not spam, and must take appropriate actions against any affiliates or any third parties who do spam
    you: as you are NOT willing to obey these rules,I will forward a copy of this chat transcript to the owner to review your status
    you: in addition,I will be posting your EXACT words publicly in the forum so that everyone can see that you do NOT obey the Casinomeister rules regarding accredited casinos

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    *Sigh*

    Now one for The Palace Group (Ruby Fortune)


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    MORE English Harbour SPAM:

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    Some of the rules the Casinomeister have posted in order for a casino to be considered accredited include:

    Must be able to take care of any player issue swiftly and professionally.

    Must not spam, and must take appropriate actions against any affiliates or any third parties who do spam.

    It's been FIVE DAYS since this spam began. I have contacted EH via email and live chat more than a half dozen times,and I have been ignored or rebuffed every time.


    Must have a representative (who can walk and chew gum at the same time) listed in Casinomeister's forum.

    So not only doEH not care about this spam, they don't even have a rep here anymore.


    I think it's time that this casino group LOSE it's accreditation status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roanan View Post
    MORE English Harbour SPAM:

    news
    news news
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    Enter the hall of fame!
    Hi Roanan

    What to do this weekend...

    You definately want to check this out

    purchase 50, begin with 150

    Only two weeks left to take it to the Max

    With over 120 games, Slots Galore offers huge solid welcome b-o-n-u-s-e-s worth two hundred percent up to five hundred. United States residents are welcome to step in to the hall of fame.
    Treasure Trail
    Play the 3 columns anigma of the Treasure Trail

    Play the old fashion three columns anigma, and find your way to the treasure. One hundred per/cent of matching Bonus up to eight hundred American GreeN dollars. You can use the Autoplay option if you want the slot machine to play automatically for a number of spins.



    More things to do this weekend...

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    Some of the rules the Casinomeister have posted in order for a casino to be considered accredited include:

    Must be able to take care of any player issue swiftly and professionally.

    Must not spam, and must take appropriate actions against any affiliates or any third parties who do spam.

    It's been FIVE DAYS since this spam began. I have contacted EH via email and live chat more than a half dozen times,and I have been ignored or rebuffed every time.


    Must have a representative (who can walk and chew gum at the same time) listed in Casinomeister's forum.

    So not only doEH not care about this spam, they don't even have a rep here anymore.


    I think it's time that this casino group LOSE it's accreditation status.

    1934 Driftwood Bay | Belize City | 78583 | Belize

    Here's your "smoking gun". This is DIRECTLY initiated by the casino, and NOT from an affiliate. This is a large email bulk marketing company specialising in running bulk mailing campaigns for many online casinos. The casino in question must have made a contract with this company in order for the emails to be sent. Limited personal information may also be passed to this company because they also provide some services to existing players, such as promotional emails. Cross marketing is also a possibility, getting a player at one property to play at another. This is how you can be addressed by name, even if your email address does not contain it. It seems the casinos are interested in results, and do not concern themselves too much with how they are achieved, which appears to be through spamming in these cases.

    There is another company with a similar address operating from the same place that is more focussed on mailing existing players. They are close enough to be sharing information "off the record", not that there is much in the way of regulation of this kind of activity in Belize. Companies can operate with considerable secrecy, a bit like Swiss banks, which is why they go there.
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    If this is true and this spam is coming directly from the English Harbour group, then this is grounds for IMMEDIATE REMOVAL FROM THE ACCREDITED LIST

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roanan View Post
    If this is true and this spam is coming directly from the English Harbour group, then this is grounds for IMMEDIATE REMOVAL FROM THE ACCREDITED LIST

    It would be, but a greater level of proof is needed. This company is rather secretive, and it's activities are only obvious to players because there address is "everywhere". I had thought only MGS casinos were using them, and English Harbour isn't MGS.

    Being based in Belize, they can easily claim that what they are doing is perfectly legal, IN BELIZE, even though to the rest of us it goes against the various anti-spamming laws.

    The way they have set up the operation, different domains, and odd looking sender addresses, is how many spammers work. The difference is that they try to cover their legal asses by adding their company address to the email, which they probably think gets them off the hook as far as spamming goes.

    To show that this is directly commissioned by the casino, you would have to show that no affiliate is involved, which means no valid affiliate tracking is used when downloading and registering from the suspect email. This requires a knowledge of how the program tags affiliate links, and how this differs from any tagging for direct marketing campaigns.

    It seems that players are entirely dependent on the good will of the casino to control spam, if the casino wants to spam, we can't stop them.

    The industry are just making a long term problem for themselves through their limp attitude towards spam. They make quite a bit of money through inaction against spam, and it seems that only load and insistent complaining gets results. The long term problem is that increasing levels of spam are driving players to take direct action, rather than wasting their time fruitlessly trying to convince the casino to quit spamming them. The threat I have seen recently is that players are simply reporting the inbound spam to SpamCop, and telling the casino they will be doing this if they are spammed after requesting not to be. The long term effect is that their domains will be added to the blacklists used by major email providers and ISPs. WE can already see this with casinos, and this site, simply giving up and telling members that certain email providers will no longer be allowed in the registration process since it has become impossible to deliver LEGITIMATE emails because their content (or domain server) has been blacklisted as spam. AOL was the first, but then the problem spread to Yahoo and Gmail. Although the result is less spam, it also means never receiving GENUINE emails, such as requests for ducuments, or deposit offers. This hurts the industry by giving loyal players the impression that CS "never answer emails", or they are "never asked for documents or told about offers". email providers are also being more aggressive because spam clogs the service, and they need to protect it for the majority of users who do NOT use the services normally associated with bulk spam, such as Viagra, cheap software, and online casinos.
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    Okay...let's investigate:


    Multiple spams from two different sources:

    Return-Path: <wwwrun@emsmtp.com>
    Received: from pmta88085.emsmtp.com (pmta88085.emsmtp.com [85.125.88.85])
    Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:11:24 -0600 (MDT)
    From: "Che" <promo@bonus-promotions.com>


    IP address: 85.125.88.85
    Host name: pmta88085.emsmtp.com
    85.125.88.85 is from Austria(AT) in region Western Europe


    inetnum: 85.125.88.64 - 85.125.88.127
    netname: emarsys-eMarketing
    descr:
    descr: emarsys eMarketingSystems AG
    descr: Hagai Hartman
    descr: Wien
    country: AT
    admin-c: AH10082-RIPE
    tech-c: AH10082-RIPE
    status: ASSIGNED PA
    notify: ip-admin@inode.at
    mnt-by: AT-INODE-DOM
    changed: ip-admin@inode.at 20091216
    source: RIPE


    Embedded link:
    info.bonus-promotions.com/u/nrd.php?p=nu7cJ0JZAQ_14559_183586_1_1

    Displays a page that says:
    If you are not redirected, please click here

    'Clicking here' or leaving it and allowing it to redirect right through to rubyfortune.com shows the affiliate link:
    rubyfortune.com/index.asp?a=1116920


    It's a generic spam and DOES come from an affiliate.






    The source that is bombarding me however MAY be from EH themselves, but I would need an affiliate to look at this to confirm:

    Return-Path: <email@news1.connectcrenyx.com>
    Received: from mercure-seze.ccemails.net (mercure-seze.ccemails.net [81.92.123.70])
    Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:03:00 -0600 (MDT)
    Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:02:58 +0100 (CET)
    From: "Vegas" <email@news1.connectcrenyx.com>
    Reply-To: "Vegas" <support@connectcrenyx.com>


    IP address: 81.92.123.70
    Host name: mercure-seze.ccemails.net
    81.92.123.70 is from European Union(EU) in region Western Europe


    inetnum: 81.92.120.0 - 81.92.123.255
    netname: FR-EMAILVISION
    descr: EMAILVISION
    country: EU
    admin-c: ES3326-RIPE
    tech-c: ES3326-RIPE
    status: ASSIGNED PA
    mnt-by: MNT-EMAILVISION
    mnt-lower: MNT-EMAILVISION
    mnt-routes: MNT-EMAILVISION
    changed: rfeurdean@emailvision.com 20070416
    source: RIPE


    Embedded link: tre.emv3.com/HS?a=DNX7CkQy2wGu8SA9MOOWQOnnGHxKRmvSfg0-

    This leads to webe.emv3.com/is_connectcrenyx/EH2-EV.htm
    and then redirects to a random landing page:
    landing.englishharbour.com/promotions/200percent.php
    landing.superslots.com/promotions/sl-200LandingPage.php
    landing.millionairecasino.com/promotions/200percent.php
    landing.vipslots.com/promotions/200percent.php


    The spams themselves also have links to:
    Twitter: twitter.com/randybwhite
    Facebook: facebook.com/randybwhite

    The Facebook page shows a personal web page of funvegasstation.com

    That site shows an affiliate link of: spintime.com/get/a/612778 (A Rival casino), and pictures of MGS games.

    If you sign up and log in you will see that it's a free gaming portal offering all Microgaming games (probably WITHOUT permission and in direct violation of many copyright laws)

    ..and, of course tracing the site finds:
    web01.iomart.com Compromised website / Leads to Liberty Exploit Toolkit



    So who are they coming from? Does the name Randy B White mean anything to anyone?

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