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    Back Again?

    The spammer is back again, promoting Euro Prime casino.

    spam------------------------------------------------------------------

    Which team is better? Chelsea, Man.united, Arsenal or Liverpool?



    Euro Prime Casino is giving away a Champions League Final Package, for free!



    1. Download and Install our Casino Software.

    2. Register a Real Money Account.

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    4. Enjoy 280 games and huge Jackpots of £8 Million!

    5. Then send an email to our support center with your account number and the subject line: 'Champions League Free'.



    On the 11th May, we will have the draw and announce the winner on our website. Don't forget to look for your name!



    More details and more packages will be advertised on our website soon.



    Click to play Euro Prime Casino: hxxxxxxp://www.silverstargambling.net



    Good luck!



    Euro Prime Casino Support Team.

    endspam----------------------------------------------------------

    This is not the $2400 bonus, so seems to rule out Gold VIP, and the Euro Prime site was a fake landing page for Prime Casino.

    The above URL redirects to another URL, which itself refuses to load (something good then ). This means I cannot determine whether this is indeed Prime, or whether the Euro Prime landing page has a new victim (Jupiter Club perhaps)

    The sender is "play casino", and the spam is delivered by bombarding the BCC field with loads of recipients. I received TWO, both slightly different, to different named recipients (not me). This is clearly spam, rather than "marketing".

    I wonder if the promo itself is genuine, as for the spam to work, the intended victim would have to get a promotion similar to that in the spam. The promotion is very specific, and should be easy to trace to the underlying promoter (if it actually exists).


    EDIT.

    Very easy to trace indeed Is this the same affiliate? We have to assume that Prime casino closed the original offending account, but it seems this is either an experienced and determined spammer, or Prime have TWO rogue spammy affiliates on the books now.

    The point is, we know that "bad" players are detected by cutting edge technology, but are we protected from rogue affiliates in the same manner?

    If this is the same affiliate, then we have to assume they have opened a duplicate account having had the first one axed. They must surely then have provided false details on this account, as surely the earlier details would have been put on a blacklist.

    It is a shame I cannot get 100% confirmation due to the fake website not working, but this is pretty convincing circumstantial evidence that the intent of this spam is to generate sign-ups to Prime Casino through promoting their Football league draw, and their bonus of up to 300 credits, both of which feature in the spam, and clearly are promotions currently being run by Prime Casino.

    The spammer (if the same one) perhaps thinks not using the GG domain to spoof the emails means we are less interested in shutting him down, but he is wrong, the damage has been done, and anything that appears to promote "Euro Prime" will be receiving my undivided attention, with the hope that this spammer will give up trying to spam reputable casinos, and go back to spamming the gutter operations that deserve him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winbig View Post
    Why is Prime casino even brought up?

    If you download the setup file and run it from any of the above links that you've posted, you'll see that the setup file is for Gold VIP Club casino.
    I was wondering the same thing. Why is Prime Casino brought up and where is that connection? I'm missing something I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daera View Post
    I was wondering the same thing. Why is Prime Casino brought up and where is that connection? I'm missing something I guess.
    I believe it's because the spammer moves from one affiliate program to another keeping the spammy URL. The only way to fully shut these guys down is to have their domain server shut them down. Many of these are in China or other obscure places - good luck
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    Well, bad news Meister................

    Looks like the spam gremlins are sending out an email for a site promoting Belle Rock and guess what it says in the FROM: field of the mail?

    Casino Meister

    I checked the source code of the message and it clearly isn't from you. But they're trying to make it look like it is.

    Spammers really suck!

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    P.S. I have the mail if you want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casinomeister View Post
    I believe it's because the spammer moves from one affiliate program to another keeping the spammy URL. The only way to fully shut these guys down is to have their domain server shut them down. Many of these are in China or other obscure places - good luck
    I have to disagree somewhat. The INDUSTRY could cooperate and blacklist the details of these affiliates who get caught spamming, making it harder and harder for them to move on to the next affiliate program. They could even ban whole countries (where the "untouchable" servers are), something they are happy to do when it comes to players.
    This might create some false positives, but their could be a process where flagged affiliates have to provide extra information to convince the casinos they want to promote them ethically.
    This is damaging the industry, and is not just a minor irritation to players. The most obvious damage is that 90% of my legitimate mailers from casinos get incorrectly flagged as spam by my ISP based filters, and this is up from less than 10% a couple of years ago.

    It looks like the spammer has now switched to promoting "Play Casino". It looks like Prime, but I have not got conclusive proof (yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by daera View Post
    Well, bad news Meister................

    Looks like the spam gremlins are sending out an email for a site promoting Belle Rock and guess what it says in the FROM: field of the mail?

    Casino Meister

    I checked the source code of the message and it clearly isn't from you. But they're trying to make it look like it is.

    Spammers really suck!

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