spamming an it isnt from Gonegambling an they have no idea

[jas2587]

DOT TK is a shortening name...


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Also http://gamblingeuroprime.net/euro_pr...no_canada.html

CALLING:

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In our dictionary Prime and Pride are separated by just one letter. That letter is "D" and it stands for the detail we take in making sure that your EuroPrimeCasino experience is rewarding in all ways. Should you encounter a problem or difficulty, please tell us about it, we will put it right, if we don't hear from you we can only assume that you feel we have got it right. That makes us happy and you a satisfied player.

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whois on them is:




Registration Service Provided By: MC LTD
Contact: +7.0952977438

Domain Name: GAMBLINGEUROPRIME.NET

Registrant:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Creation Date: 21-Mar-2008
Expiration Date: 21-Mar-2009

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.mchost.ru
ns1.mchost.ru


Administrative Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Technical Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Billing Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin (contact@privacyprotect.org)
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Status:ACTIVE

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Current Registrar: ESTDOMAINS, INC.
IP Address: 62.152.41.160 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: IT(ITALY)
Lock Status: clientTransferProhibited
DMOZ no listings
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Data as of: 14-Jun-2005

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Which bounces to:

AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT ONE --- LOL!


WHOIS Details

Registration Service Provided By: MC LTD
Contact: +7.0952977438

Domain Name: GAMBLINGEUROPRIME.NET

Registrant:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin ()
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Creation Date: 21-Mar-2008
Expiration Date: 21-Mar-2009

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.mchost.ru
ns1.mchost.ru


Administrative Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin ()
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Technical Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin ()
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Billing Contact:
PrivacyProtect.org
Domain Admin ()
P.O. Box 97
All Postal Mails Rejected, visit Privacyprotect.org
Moergestel
null,5066 ZH
NL
Tel. +45.36946676

Status:ACTIVE

The data in this whois database is provided to you for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. We make this information available "as is", and do not guarantee its
accuracy. By submitting a whois query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to1) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that stress or load this whois databa
se system providing you this information; or(2) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail,electronic mail, or by telephone. The compilation, repackaging, disseminat
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Dear Sir/Madam,

Dot TK is the exclusive registry for the
Country Code Top Level Domain for the island
of Tokelau (also known as "ccTLD").

Dot TK (.TK) registers domain names globally,
through our services Free Domain and Paid Domain.

As your email alerts us to
unacceptable content by a holder of a Dot TK domain, I
have researched the case. The user is in
fact a Free Domain registrant, therefore
because of the violation, the domain has
been cancelled and the registrant has been
removed from our database.

Thank you for your assistance & I apologise for any
offense or inconvenience caused.

With Kind Regards,

Dot TK Support
http://www.dot.tk
Renaming The Internet

[Casinomeister]

The problem is that there are some spamming affiliates that are hard to detect. They open up an affiliate account at xyz casino and submit a URL that looks legit. Once their aff account is given the thumbs up (most are in a moderation queue) they set their links up on xyz-casino-great-bonus-or-whatever.hk and turn the spam machine on. The only way to combat this is to contact the aff manager with these URLs. In most cases, the aff managers will shut down the affiliate's account. Aff managers CANNOT shut down specific URLs. This is no guarantee that the spammer won't open up another account and continue doing so. It's a problematic and painful situation.

My spam filter (Spam Assasin) nails most of these, and I just hit delete. The delete button is still the best way to deal with these things since spammers will always find a way to get their spam mails to you.

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by jas2587

WARN everyone that Prime Casino are Rogues. They condone theft of business names and spamming.

As Prime Casino condones it's affiliates spamming, then Prime Casino will have to accept the consequences and venom that most people who are tired of being on the receiving end of spam will direct at them.

Before flying off the handle, please look into how these spammers operate. It's not as simple as it appears to be. Prime Casino does not condone spam whatsoever, and it's unfair to point fingers at them when they are as frustrated as you are.

[jas2587]

Understand
I am sorry to Prime
I cant edit that out of the post

Thanks Meister



Cindy

I will shup now
an be a good girl

[PrimeCasino]

Originally Posted by jas2587

Understand
I am sorry to Prime
I cant edit that out of the post

Thanks Meister



Cindy

I will shup now
an be a good girl

Hey Cindy,

As far as you being an active member of this forum, with strong opinion and insight, it would be a loss to us all if you were to "Shup" ! I do understand your frustration in receiving numerous irritating e-mails that are not caught by your spam assassin. However, I would really appreciate you coming to me, or any one of my team with queries highlighting your frustration and shedding more light on what we can do to make your life a little easier in the spam department. I can assure you we are as frustrated as you are.

I would like to think this situation is now under control and has been dealt with. That being said, please shoot me a mail or PM should this rogue affiliate rear his head again and cause more strife.

Best regards,

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Before flying off the handle, please look into how these spammers operate. It's not as simple as it appears to be. Prime Casino does not condone spam whatsoever, and it's unfair to point fingers at them when they are as frustrated as you are.

In all my years gambling online, I don't recall a single spam for Intercasino, 32red or Ladbrokes. So it is possible to be selective about affiliates.

[littlebit]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Before flying off the handle, please look into how these spammers operate. It's not as simple as it appears to be. Prime Casino does not condone spam whatsoever, and it's unfair to point fingers at them when they are as frustrated as you are.

Bryan and Jordan (Prime Casino)

I am more than a little disappointed that neither of you appear to be taking the facts into account. Jordan prefers to muddy the waters and act the victim in this matter instead of addressing the facts. Read again what Jordan has posted. All he has done is talk down to concerned forum members (except for one) about how he wishes they had contacted him before posting.

GoneGambling DID contact Prime Casino at every means possible and GoneGambling is STILL waiting for a response.

Quote: "It has been taken to an extreme level by our "friends" at GoneGambling on removing us from the site, prior to further investigation from themselves, knowing full well that we are doing everything we are able to find out how we are being connected to this and who is instigating."

That really is too much. You are a LIAR Jordan. I am calling you out on your statement. Prime Casino has NOT notified GoneGambling that they are doing everything that they can to find out who is instigating the spam. Prime Casino has NOT informed GoneGambling of anything regarding this matter. Our emails and requests for Prime Casino to do something have been met with a wall of silence. This matter has only escalated to the extent it has because Prime Casino has NOT responded to us. Show us the emails that were sent to GoneGambling Jordan. The emails keeping us in the loop and informing us this was a huge mistake. You just lost all credibility with that statement Jordan.

Fact: GoneGambling is obviously very concerned about this matter and phoned the casino and also sent multiple emails of complaint to numerous addresses at Prime Casino. GoneGambling members did the same. Prime Casino did not react in a timely or responsible manner. For their rep to be on here moaning about not being informed so that he could act, is just a further slap in the face to GoneGambling and concerned members of this forum.

Fact: Bryan, was copied on the original email and several since. Why did Bryan not jump on this matter right away and respond to GoneGambling? Just a response saying that you would talk to the casino about it Bryan would have been enough. You didn't have the courtesy to respond and stop this matter from progressing further. For you to then post flippantly about hitting the delete button on spam shows a total disregard and lack of concern for the value of the GoneGambling name. The fact is that it was use of the GoneGambling name in the emails sent by the spammer that dragged GoneGambling into this in the first place. I have to wonder if you would have been so flippant had it been Casinomeisters name being abused in this way?

As you didn't respond to GoneGambling, and you apparently didn't alert Prime Casino that they should nip this in the bud before it blows up, what were you doing Bryan? You certainly weren't helping either party. Lack of action makes Casinomeister a bit of a toothless watchdog.

Fact: When people moused over the original download link on the spammers sites, the link comes up as http://gamblingeuroprime.net/casino/SmartDownload.exe No one I know has been crazy enough to actually do the download and I wouldn't expect them to. Gamblingeuroprime.net takes people to this site http://gamblingeuroprime.net/euro_pr...no_canada.html

That is the trail of how this falls squarely in the lap of Prime Casino. Without downloading the casino, that is as far as a normal Internet user can take the matter. The matter was then placed before Prime Casino multiple times by multiple people, and yet Prime Casino FAILED to respond or address the matter. Prime Casino didn't even value their business name enough to respond to some emails to protect it.

If the spammer is not an Affiliate of Prime Casino, the lack of response from the casino shows an ineptness and tardiness from support reaching to the highest levels of management, if it ever made it that far. This in itself should be a red flag to all online gamblers that Prime Casino can't react swiftly to protect its own name and reputation, so how will Prime Casino handle a dispute with a player?

It appears that both Prime Casino and Casinomeister, who were both too tired or slow to act on this matter, are now trying to shift the blame for the escalation of the problem to GoneGambling. If EITHER Prime Casino or Casinomeister had responded at ANY time in the past FIVE days, the matter may not have escalated to the extent it has. Shame on you both for being critical of a mover and shaker like GoneGambling who ONLY expected the best and a timely response from a casino it WAS promoting.

It appears that the involvement of eCOGRA by GoneGambling and its members has forced Prime Casino to now act on this matter.

[vinylweatherman]

Well, is it Prime, or not...


Only one way to find out



Downloaded the installer, checked with AVG, and it appears to be a standard Micrgaming smart installer, not an RTG.

Let's see what it tries to install:-


I think GG are owed an apology, they certainly did their homework, and didn't throw a baseless accusation at Prime Casino.

Clearly, the "thorough investigation" by Prime casino was lacking before they made their defense, that this was nothing to do with Prime affiliates, but that it was a spoof in the same way that GoneGambling was spoofed in the sending of the mails.

The Europrime site is still up & running, even though I have not seen any further spam with the GG spoofed as sender. The other URL was taken down after the complaint from GG. Europrime is a fake landing page, and contains pages lifted from the genuine Prime casino website.

All that is needed to pin down which casino is being spammed is to investigate the installer, preferably on an "old" PC, not the new one

The "cookie" field in the registry contains the value "66928" - this is the tracking cookie value, and could well be used to trace back to the affiliate responsible for this download website, and probably the spam through GG spoofed sender addresses.

[Casinomeister]

Jeeze Littlebit - take a chill pill, please:

As you didn't respond to GoneGambling, and you apparently didn't alert Prime Casino that they should nip this in the bud before it blows up, what were you doing Bryan? You certainly weren't helping either party. Lack of action makes Casinomeister a bit of a toothless watchdog.

Those emails that I was copied on to came in when I was out of town. I may gotten to these on Monday.

When I'm copied on to an email that I have not initiated, I take this as a FYI email - not a "drop what you're doing and do something immediately" email. I figured John just wanted to keep me in the loop. I saw this thread for the first time on Monday as well.

I have a hell of a lot on my plate right now, and I didn't take this as a priority issue. There are enough people in the forum - to include the operator to hash this out. The comments I made on Monday in this thread were made as an explanation on how thise things happen, please don't confuse that with condoning spam mails. Thanks!

[jas2587]

Thanks vinylweatherman I feel vindicated

Cindy