Harrah's/Caesars Casino Live Online

[4 of a kind]

There was talk about Harrah's intent to enter the online market for years. I'm sure all the proper steps were put in place prior to this launch.

Of course they would only allow access to countries with legal and regulated markets. The fact that they are launching now could be a good sign of what U.S. players have been praying for.

Hopefully the board members at Harrah's know something about the future we don't with the U.S. legislation that could be on it's way. (hmmmm Barney Frank speaking at W.S.O.P. at Vegas, $$$$)

Then again maybe they just want a piece of the present multi-billion dollar market, with only hopes the U.S. get legalized. But if we do (U.S.) they would have a jump in a big way on future big name competitors that would be lagging into the new market.

I also think before they invest in bringing to online the software similar to their land based casinos, they would want the U.S. dollars legally there first.

[rockycatt]

correct me if I'm wrong please [because this could shed some clarity at the corporate level]

but i thought if a body resides [in this case caesars /hurrahs ,] with in
the united states that there supposed to follow the law of the land

so at the corporate level aren't they going against the law [example I'm thinking is no safe haven for Americans to bend or break the law ]

and i know it's a ok thing to do as a individual but at there status ??

certainly looks to me that they know something were not privy to
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[4 of a kind]

correct me if I'm wrong please [because this could shed some clarity at the corporate level]

but i thought if a body resides [in this case caesars /hurrahs ,] with in
the united states that there supposed to follow the law of the land

so at the corporate level aren't they going against the law [example I'm thinking is no safe haven for Americans to bend or break the law ]

and i know it's a ok thing to do as a individual but at there status ??

certainly looks to me that they know something were not privy to

RobWin posted that: CAESARS Casino Online is powered by Cassava Enterprises (Gibraltar) Limited, 601-701 Europort, Gibraltar.

I would think that coming out of Gibraltar under Cassava Enterprises is what makes it legal. They are not allowing any markets other then regulated and legal to play on the site. I'm guessing it would be the same as just giving Cassava Enterprises the rights to market their name.

If living in the U.S. whatever is going on certainly is giving us a good feeling.

[greek39]

I cant access the site from here in Australia.

You know, it just doesnt make sense why certain providers ban Aussie players even if they do have some kind of connection to interests over here, as from my reading of the applicable Act it is very specific about what constitutes 'providing an online gambling service' etc etc. It is also interesting to note that no charges under the Act have been laid since its enactment in 2001.

I mean, Dogboy is in Sydney and has design connections with RTG, and yet RTG will allow Australians. Weird.

Anyway, I guess its one less place to lose my shirt

Try this proxy http://www.ninjaa.info/index.php enter caesarscasino.com go to T&C's section 3

Persons located in certain countries including, but not limited to, the United States of America, Israel and Turkey are neither eligible to open an account with the Company, make any deposits nor use the Services. The Company reserves the right to amend the list of countries from which it will not accept users of the Service from time to time in its sole discretion.

Appears everyone is welcome except players from United States, Israel, and Turkey. But this does not explain why I cannot view from Canada except by via proxy? Someone did mention this was a "soft" launch as in not everything is fully operational yet, a possible explanation?

greek39

[Simmo!]

As previously stated, Caesars is UK Only right now. I spoke to 888 at EGR Live last week and had this confirmed.

[greek39]

As previously stated, Caesars is UK Only right now. I spoke to 888 at EGR Live last week and had this confirmed.

My understanding as well Simmo! UK only some think otherwise leading to the confusion.

greek39

[vinylweatherman]

Another 888 "white label".

So many players have problems because they have "more than one Cassava powered account", even though when they signed up it appeared they were signing with completely independent casinos that just happened to use the same software.
There is also the tendency for 888 to LIE when they find themselves in a bit of bother. They LIED about Reef Club having any connection to the main brand, yet upon leaving the site the players were treated to a "try our sister casino, Reef Club" exit pop-up. Then there was the "Lucky Ace" farce, more lies from Cassava, this time in an attempt to justify their actions.
There are STILL complaints coming in from players deemed to have "too many accounts across the Cassava brand". Said players might try this new casino, and find themselves unknowingly yet AGAIN with Cassava.
Note the misleading press release, mentioning "Dragonfish software", when they know full well that this is NOT going to be a name familiar with players, whereas say "Cassava", or "888", and almost every player will recognise it.

As for the restricted countries. I expect Harrahs are being extra cautious, since what they are REALLY after is a legalised US market. Testing their product elsewhere will allow them to iron out any problems, enabling them to "hit the ground running" the first day the US allows online casinos to operate. They do NOT want to risk falling foul of ANY other countries' laws, even those where the laws are considered to be indistinct. The UK benefits from a law that specifically makes online gambling legal, rather than a lack of a direct law making it illegal, which is what many countries have at present.

[lots0]

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Harras will regret teaming up with 888, sooner or later.

This decision to team up with cassava/888 sure makes me question the honesty of Harras management team. When all casino management looks at is making money and to hell with customer service (and thats what they must have been doing when they choose cassava to team up with)... they got a problem.

I was hoping that when regulation came around we would gain some respectability as an Industry... I guess that is not going to be the case.

(Not to mention that this team of Cassava and Harras does not bode well for the small to mid-sized affiliates... These big boys don't like to share...)

[winbig]

(Not to mention that this team of Cassava and Harras does not bode well for the small to mid-sized affiliates... These big boys don't like to share...)

Precisely why Bally's and Caesars dealers in AC went on strike this summer:

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2...UAWStrike.html

The ads criticize the compensation of Harrah's Entertainment chief executive officer and president Gary Loveman, who received $92.3 million in total compensation last year, including $89.1 million in stock options and a $2 million annual salary, as the company cut health and retirement benefits and hours for its dealers.

[lots0]

Precisely why Bally's and Caesars dealers in AC went on strike this summer:

Be careful talking like that around here... you might get accused of being a commie sympathizer...