Affiliate Union

[lots0]

Dave,

I don't know all the details.

but I do support the idea of the AU.

The problem is... as you know, there are some really bad people in this business. Some of the really bad people are well known in the forums and pretend to be 'honest and ethical' in public. Some even have 'good' public reputations.

The problem as I see it is the GPWA and CAP. Both of these entities attract the worst of the worst in affiliates, both are the worst places to recruit ethical affs. Not to mention that from the sounds of it the AU would be a direct competitor to gpwa, apcw, CAP and others. So there are many folks that have a direct financial interest who are ready, willing and able to torpedo anything like the AU without mercy.

Dave I would only ask two things of you...
1. Please remember that anything worthwhile is never easy...

2. Please don't give up the good fight.

[greek39]

Thanks lots0 I will be parking my chair here from now on if its okay. I find the meister board, in particular Bryan a no BS type fellow.

I too hope Dave changes his mind.

thanks

greek39

[JHV]

Write. Please. Often.

[chalkie]

Dave, i am sorry that this is how the story as ended, i have not fallen out with you, i will not be a thorn in your side or show any animosity towards you.

I do wish that we could speak about the events of the last few days, however, understand if you do not wish to do so.

I hope you have no issues with myself and Paula continuing with the union.

With regards to the questions about the union supporting players, well, as it is an affiliates union we cannot do so as such.

We will, however, be making sure that players safety, rights and protection are considered as important a fact as anything else.

For that reason, i would hope that we could be seen in a good light by players.

[lots0]

Thanks lots0 I will be parking my chair here from now on if its okay. I find the meister board, in particular Bryan a no BS type fellow.

I too hope Dave changes his mind.

thanks

greek39

It's better than OK...

[WagerWitch]

I hope that this does start - and would love to support it.

I'm one of those folks that plops some casinos on the site - without knowing a couple of their backgrounds - but usually as soon as I find out - I try to NEVER support or bring them up again.

I try to be honest and fair - but Ive noticed that a couple of the casinos show downloads - but no real players depositing... HMMMMM... - which to be honest with the traffic I'm giving them - I highly doubt real players would bother to sign up and then not deposit AFTER downloading - yanno?


I'm not entirely sure I'm trusting some of the info I'm getting back on reports.

Be it that it may - I still don't make very much money in this business - and I rank HIGH in Google for MANY keywords and I get a lot of hits and people coming in.

So - I dunno how other affiliates are doing - and I'm not sure which guys are bad or good - it would be nice to have a NON-AFFILIATED union to be able to guide us through the good guys and the bad guys - doing not for the bucks - but because it is right.

And as a player - it's good to see someone who only places those that are trustworthy on their sites.

It's a win win for affiliates - and a bonus for players.

[zebedy]

I hope that this does start - and would love to support it.

I'm one of those folks that plops some casinos on the site - without knowing a couple of their backgrounds - but usually as soon as I find out - I try to NEVER support or bring them up again.

I try to be honest and fair - but Ive noticed that a couple of the casinos show downloads - but no real players depositing... HMMMMM... - which to be honest with the traffic I'm giving them - I highly doubt real players would bother to sign up and then not deposit AFTER downloading - yanno?


I'm not entirely sure I'm trusting some of the info I'm getting back on reports.

Be it that it may - I still don't make very much money in this business - and I rank HIGH in Google for MANY keywords and I get a lot of hits and people coming in.

So - I dunno how other affiliates are doing - and I'm not sure which guys are bad or good - it would be nice to have a NON-AFFILIATED union to be able to guide us through the good guys and the bad guys - doing not for the bucks - but because it is right.

And as a player - it's good to see someone who only places those that are trustworthy on their sites.

It's a win win for affiliates - and a bonus for players.

sometimes a player doesnt have the software on there pc anymore so they download from your site even if they didnt sign up through your link,

IMO the only way for something like this to work without people thinking there isnt a hidden agenda is if all the people running it were non affiliates and had nothing to do with the online gaming scene in any way , otherwise you will always get the doubters

[Antonia1953]

I suggest before forming a band of founders, that you examine their websites and perform an anal-like analysis of their ethical history...so to speak.

[JHV]

I suggest before forming a band of founders, that you examine their websites and perform an anal-like analysis of their ethical history...so to speak.

Yeah, I'm getting flashbacks to the post-Palin VP nomination - skeleton after skeleton just pouring out of her closet in almost comical fashion.

I mean, hell, we ALL make mistakes. God knows I've made a few (x100/0). But 'discovering' one of your founding members is an affiliate promoting Cirrus POST-announcement of impending launch....this ranks right up there in the All-Time Facepalm Competition.

[bb28]

When I saw the list of the founding members, I was very shocked to see GamTrak on there. I assumed it was common knowledge that she had no qualms about promoting rogue casino's and she has publically defended such. See here.

Seems someone forgot to do the very basic's, which just floored me for such a large undertaking.

I do hope you can get past your rocky start and I hope the organization is successful.