Absolute Poker Could Become Safest Poker Room - Not

[Mousey]

I could rant... ohhhhh, I could stomp and scream.... but I won't I'll only say...

Absolute Poker Could Become Safest Poker Room

And I could become the prettiest pole dancer in the South... However, I'm not getting any younger and it ain't gonna happen. Same for Absolute. It's too late. Cat's out of the bag. Horses are fled from the barn, etc., etc. (Insert your own favorite cliche here).

And am I the only one that has this horrible knot in the pit of stomach when I think what AP's security breach may mean for ALL of online gaming? I don't know who may have access to my account...

This is possibly off topic so forgive me (replies may be PM'd to prevent a derail) -- but was there ever a certainty as to exactly how some poker players had money stolen from their accounts a while back? I don't remember which poker rooms. Their accounts were pilfered and funds moved off to who knows where into other accounts. Were these even legit (non fraud) complaints? From what I remember the poker room(s) never came forth with a statement.

[pokeraddict]

Jack in the Box didn't purposely sell ecoli burgers and Exxon didn't spill millions of gallons of oil because they felt like it. Although they were liable their intentions were not to be evil unlike AP.

Mousey, I know of several people that had money vanish from their AP accounts. AP never cared and of course never did anything about it.

[bromo98]

In terms of public perception, if it's never fully proven that management knew/covered up the actions while they were happening, how are the situations that much different? AP didn't hand this guy an account and tell him to win win win.
These companies allowed (what they call) Rogue employees and/or suppliers, in the JitBox case, to compromise their company/brand/profits. If it's shown AP knew and allowed it to continue, it will flush itself out. Until then, they can pin it on a couple of "rogue consultants" and move on.
The debate (at least, the point that I responded to) isn't about what should happen to AP here, it's about *if* they will survive. You haven't shown anything to say that they won't- other than not liking them or not wanting them to. That's fine...I don't have money in them and don't care one way or the other - but it's not really relevant to the question at hand.

[jetset]

ABSOLUTE POKER CHEATS TOOK $800 000

Beleaguered online poker operator issues progress report


The Kahnawake registered company Tokwiro Enterprises, 100 percent owners of Absolute Poker.com issued a progress report as the week closed on its ongoing investigations into a cheating scandal that has seen the company widely condemned by the player community (see previous InfoPowa reports).

The report contains some interesting numbers, with Tokwiro claiming that the cheating "window" lasted for 40 days beginning August 14 and that some $800 000 was wrongfully won by the still unidentified company consultant, who was summarily dismissed - a point reiterated in the current report. Absolute Poker reimbursed players with twice that amount - $1.6 million - the progress report claims.

The company earlier revealed that the flaw allegedly exploited by the "consultant" to cheat Absolute Poker tournament players came about through a software upgrade, and that the breach has since been identified and sealed.

"The breach was exploitable only by an authorised AP person that manipulated the internal reporting software, together with the AP gaming software," the report states. "The security breach was not, therefore, the result of an external action, and no individual outside AP could exploit the breach."

The report goes on to claim that allegations of a super account are unfounded, and that that there is no capability on any Absolute account to see the hole cards of other players. But it does not explain how the cheat was able to achieve such impossible winning results.

The cheater/s used accounts with the handles Potripper, Graycat, Steamroller, Doubledrag, Payup, Supercard 55 and Romnaldo, Absolute Poker claims.

All hand histories of play were retained and are being thoroughly analysed by Gaming Associates, commissioned by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission which licenses Absolute to audit the entire system. Absolute gives an assurance that any other prejudiced players who come to notice in the audit will be compensated.

The statement ends with an apology and the assurance that the site is safe and that the investigations will be reported in an open and forthright manner.

What the report does not disclose is the name of the perpetrator of the incident, arguably the worst cheating scandal in the short history of Internet poker. Nor does it reveal if his/her location is known, or whether a fraud complaint has been made to police authorities in Quebec or whether such a course of action is planned.

[pokeraddict]

G911 has now proven just how little respect they deserve in the industry. Their article shows how useless they are and how little they know about poker.

http://www.gambling911.com/Online-Poker-112007.html

Online poker's third largest US-focused poker firm responded slowly at first to the allegations before taking on more of an aggressive role.

If you combine UB/AP then you would get the 3rd biggest but the article is intentionally misleading as it makes no mention of including UB in that as it implies it is all AP. AP is actually 6th. Also what aggressive role have they taken? AJ and Tom aren't even going to jail and all that shows is a massive coverup.

The site is still outperforming Svenska Spel (The Swedish online poker giant), Bodog and Microgaming's powerful network

Wrong, AP is not a busier room then any of these three rooms. G911 is cherry picking Pokersitescout to give them the info they want, completely ignoring that all of these rooms peak higher and have more players then AP at most hours of the day.

"They reimbursed everyone who could have even been remotely affected by the online poker tournament scandal that was isolated to a specific one month period," says O'Brien.

This obviously fails to mention the massive cash game cheating making it sound like this only happened once. It also makes it sound like "The thieves made restitution and now we can trust them again". What a joke. It also fails to mention that we may never know how long it went on because AP seems to have destroyed all the evidence dating back more then 60 days.

"We are truly thrilled to have them back on board," commented Gambling911.com reporter, Jenny Woo, who had been investigating the reports. "They have always acted in a professional manner in dealing with us."

The way G911 portrays her it is hard to take this comment without laughing.

They also seem to ignore the fact that this room has been skimming from players and affiliates for almost a year.

G911 has sunk to a new low. Endorsing a room that stole so much money and then saying it is OK because they finally paid players back after lying about it for a month. Some people will do anything for money.

[Casinomeister]

Well, gee. What a surprise

Too bad that they forgot to mention that AB is in rogue hell at Casinomeister and will remain there for a very long time as far as I'm concerned. And lookee here, Casinomeister 2007 awards are coming up - I wonder who will get what

Maybe Jenny Woo for breast investigative reporter, I mean best.

[bernynhel]

Think it might be appropriate to move this thread (see Rollo's headline beginning thread) to the Jokes section? Only thing missing is a punchline.

[NASHVEGAS]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Maybe Jenny Woo for breast investigative reporter, I mean best.

O O ps!

[pokeraddict]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

Maybe Jenny Woo for breast investigative reporter, I mean best.

When her x rated video surfaced they all but linked to it on their site. It's funny how they try to give her a serious role while making her out to be less then respectable at the same time.

IMO any affiliate not offering rakeback have dumped these guys already. G911 did the right thing and then let their greed takeover.