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Some, such as your good self, seem to take what he says as the truth. I hope that is a mistake you stop making very soon.
Not quite what I said or implied. I'm not bothered about how well they do, how much money they make, or how many players they have. All I know is that as a player they treat you pretty well.

Neither do I assume they will survive the lawsuit - they may or may not. What I am implying is that even if they don't, they will probably be back under another guise, whether that is as "Newbodog" or another brand I have no idea. I believe an old dog can learn new tricks
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Not quite what I said or implied. I'm not bothered about how well they do, how much money they make, or how many players they have. All I know is that as a player they treat you pretty well.

Neither do I assume they will survive the lawsuit - they may or may not. What I am implying is that even if they don't, they will probably be back under another guise, whether that is as "Newbodog" or another brand I have no idea. I believe an old dog can learn new tricks
Ok, fair enough. Point taken.
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My take:

Bodog will not just disappear because of a lawsuit, even if it was for $30 squidrillion. You don't get to their status without being smart. I'm sure "Newbodog" isn't just a temporary getaround. If a lawsuit closes down a company of that size, it can follow several paths, just one being to declare bankruptcy and start over ( with a new name ). Damaged of course, but not dead.

Clearly that will upset some people, but that's the way it is - every successful company treads on toes and has detractors. If they have infringed a patent like they alledgedly have, I would like to see them quite rightly slapped down for that, but still there, as they are one of the few RTGs who seem to treat their players properly.

Paddy: while your posts are interesting, why on earth would you want to go round all these forums saying the same thing over and over? I don't get that. You say it isn't, but it does come over like you have a grudge.
I realize you clearly state "My take" and respectfully understood.......... Markets analysts were stating the same as you do in your bolded quote just a few days before the complete collapse of ENRON, WORLDCOM,ADELPHIA,ETC. which were all driven basically overnight to the grave once the rampant fraud became exposed to the public. Humm, Calvin may know a little something about securities fraud. Just fodder for thought, ultimately time(and me thinks US) will determine the final outcome.......Well duh,NASH

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Ya, thanks for that. LOL. Calvin's handiwork beyond a doubt. I should google my own name more often, but there are a lot of us.
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Here's another perspective on the Bloc BC article on Calvin Ayre and the troubles Bodog is facing.

http://www.point-spreads.com:80/content/view/1664/2/

Unfortunately, it appears to concentrate more on the author of the Bloc BC article than the Lewis patent issue and does not directly address many of the factual claims made by "Paddy" regarding the impact of the 1st Technologies' case against Bodog.

That would have made an interesting alternative perspective, and "tit-for-tat" exchanges on a personal level are rarely palatable or constructive.

Bodog still seems to be maintaining silence on this issue, which could be a serious error of judgement. Perhaps their lawyers are talking to Dr. Lewis's lawyers - that appears to be one option for settling this issue.
Good read, fwiw, I think it should be noted that the article in the above link was dated April 2007..........also, fwiw,I found the Carruthers/BoS story included in the article intriguing..............but most importantly could not help but click on the Titans-Jaguars game link
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Good read, fwiw, I think it should be noted that the article in the above link was dated April 2007..........also, fwiw,I found the Carruthers/BoS story included in the article intriguing..............but most importantly could not help but click on the Titans-Jaguars game link
And, fwiw, I've been trying to track down point-spreads and this Thomas Jensen dick ever since that article to serve him with a libel suit, but he seems to be very hard to pinpoint.

Fortunately, he just libelled another guy a few days ago and that guy has the money to find him, so maybe it'll all work out.
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And, fwiw, I've been trying to track down point-spreads and this Thomas Jensen dick ever since that article to serve him with a libel suit, but he seems to be very hard to pinpoint.

Fortunately, he just libelled another guy a few days ago and that guy has the money to find him, so maybe it'll all work out.
Not exactly sure how to take this, maybe our points are the same, with mine being the timelime of Jensen's article precedes the domain issue timeline relative to forum postings. If nothing else, that seems to lend some creditibility to your views and knowledge of the past and present Ayre/NewBodog,jmo.........Of course, some can and will also reasonably argue the timeline means nothing. I hope I understood your prior post and vice-versa on my prior post.
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Not exactly sure how to take this, maybe our points are the same, with mine being the timelime of Jensen's article precedes the domain issue timeline relative to forum postings. If nothing else, that seems to lend some creditibility to your views and knowledge of the past and present Ayre/NewBodog,jmo.........Of course, some can and will also reasonably argue the timeline means nothing. I hope I understood your prior post and vice-versa on my prior post.
No problem, Nash.

Jensen's article is a response to a period in which I was scoring some heavy points against Bodog on the forums and I guess Calvin decided to have this flunky libel me. He put it up on his site and then cut and pasted it into a forums. I contacted the forum owners, told them the article was substantially untrue, and was libel. It seems to have disappeared, although I am also still trying to find some way to sue SBR, i.e. find a way to serve papers on them. The Online Wire removed their copy of this crap on legal advice.

I don't remember much of the article, but it is true that I was convicted of pot smuggling 20 years ago. The rest of it is a complete fabrication. I think it speaks to the cowardly approach that Calvin and his buttboys take when they are confronted about the truth of his own background.

I don't know why Jetset saw fit to post the link, but that's his business, I suppose.

FYI, I heard from 1st Technology this morning and have been told the article is 90% accurate. When I find out which 10% isn't, it will be corrected.
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I don't know Calvin personally, but I have been a search marketing competitor of Bodog.com's for a long time (Since Bodog first appeared out from under that rock).

I have had to put up with bodog's search marketing coders spamming the search indexes and their less than noble search engine marketing efforts for quite some time and I am very glad to report that bodog is currently nowhere to be found in google.

Yahoo search is a little slower than google and is still showing the bodog search listings but the links go to a error page. Yahoo should drop the bodog.com listings in the next week or so as the Yahoo search index is updated.

Not being listed in google search is slow death for bodog, these guys have lived and breathed search marketing for years... and now it's all gone for them.

And in my opinion, this could not have happened to a nicer bunch of SEO SOB's.
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