Bodog's Domain Names Confiscated

[Paddy]

how does calvin keep his wife happy?


ayre lingus!

Ye must be Irish, boy!

[jetset]

I would like to see more in the way of direct statements of position from both sides on this, because it can be confusing or even misleading to have multi-site independent allegations and speculation going on - and for the parties involved it is probably dangerous to sit back and let it continue without clarification, too.

The longer the parties delay in setting out their position for the information of the public in what seems to be a rapidly escalating row, the more clouded the issue is likely to become imo.

And I don't mean misguided and astonishing rants like the Ayre blog! I'm talking professional, clear communication of facts to date.

Going back to page 11 and the Point-spreads op-ed piece, I would have to agree with Paddy's following comment that service would seem to have been effectively made on the Vegas legal firm - I don't think the judge would have made such a sweeping default judgement if acceptable service had not been shown. And in the follow-up Washington case, the same argument could well be applied.

[Casinomeister]

I've heard from reliable sources that everything related to Bodog Entertainment SA is registered in Calvin's sister Anita's name. ...

There is a lot of subjective material here that is not based on fact. If you are willing to make accusations, please back these up with references so this thread doesn't turn into a slamfest. I'd like this to be as objective as possible. Thanks!

how does calvin keep his wife happy?


ayre lingus!

That was the stupidest thing I've read all morning, and HgB knows better. 14 day suspension - and that was strike two.

[jetset]

Bloody hell, HgB - I thought you would be smart enough to learn from your mistakes!

Obviously not. BTW a serious discussion is taking place in this thread, which makes flip OT remarks inappropriate.

[Rollo]

I don't think it would matter one way or the other if the domains were in his sister's name, in the name of an Indian tribe, or even the name of the president of Antigua... Calvin Ayre has been on the cover of major magazines bragging about his ownership of Bodog. The charges will all be conspiricy based so actual ownership matters little.

It's sort of a bummer for online gaming, but I think Calvin Ayre is a guy a lot of people love to hate. I have to admit that what I perceive as his boundless arrogance is pretty offputting but with this case, the gaming industry is really getting it from both ends now.

[Paddy]

I don't think it would matter one way or the other if the domains were in his sister's name, in the name of an Indian tribe, or even the name of the president of Antigua... Calvin Ayre has been on the cover of major magazines bragging about his ownership of Bodog. The charges will all be conspiricy based so actual ownership matters little.

It's sort of a bummer for online gaming, but I think Calvin Ayre is a guy a lot of people love to hate. I have to admit that what I perceive as his boundless arrogance is pretty offputting but with this case, the gaming industry is really getting it from both ends now.

You're very right about the domain names bit, Rollo. Only in the Calvin Ayre School of Law can you get out of a $49 million lawsuit by making up pieces of paper and backdating them.

Jetset. I've been in touch with Scott Lewis this morning and requested some of that clarification you say is required in your post above. Hopefully something will be forthcoming.

Nash. The latest analysis on The Cold Eye is here. It contains a list of questions put to Alwyn Morris about why on Earth he would get involved with Calvin Ayre and deals with the implied violence on the Ayre blog over the weekend.

[Rollo]

If Calvin Ayre were smart, he would start groveling and apologizing, enter therapy, claim temporary insanity and get his narcasistic personality disorder on record and get on meds.

There is going to be little room for dealing if he keeps it up... the DOJ is going to want to send him to the taxidermist for stuffing and mounting when they finally get their hands on him.

Pride comes before the fall.

[NASHVEGAS]

Nash. The latest analysis on The Cold Eye is here. It contains a list of questions put to Alwyn Morris about why on Earth he would get involved with Calvin Ayre and deals with the implied violence on the Ayre blog over the weekend.

Both Calvin's original blog and now the recent alterations of the same blog removing most statements that could imply threats of criminal intent,WOW......The civil issues of defamation/libel that remain from the original blog may or may not be significant which Paddy states he is amazed that counsel did not remove from the original blog. (I understand the context in your blog of the word "amazing" but it makes for a good transition to my next thought)..........Having just perused some gaming websites, I am amazed (not naive) that there seems hardly any detachment (even just for cautionary purposes) of those in particular that have continued to align with Bodog/Calvin both post UIGEA and during the most recent events (particularily his blog last week).

[Random#rs]

Well, I read the Cold Eye update and I read his Blog and I see it was amended to exclude the references to all the bloodshed; I think that was a little over the top. He's obviously a bit ticked off to say the least. But if Calvin is going to 'take on the World' (North America in this case) He'd better do it with a lot more professional tact. From the Bodog players (myself included) I think I could say "Play it cool. A lot cooler".

Frankly, I don't understand why he even bothers with the whole mess. I mean if I had a Billion I'd just go buy a Beach or a whole island, lie out in the sun with a bunch ladies in bikinis serving me all kinds of colored drinks.
It makes me dizzy just thinking about it.

[Paddy]

Both Calvin's original blog and now the recent alterations of the same blog removing most statements that could imply threats of criminal intent,WOW......The civil issues of defamation/libel that remain from the original blog may or may not be significant which Paddy states he is amazed that counsel did not remove from the original blog. (I understand the context in your blog of the word "amazing" but it makes for a good transition to my next thought)..........Having just perused some gaming websites, I am amazed (not naive) that there seems hardly any detachment (even just for cautionary purposes) of those in particular that have continued to align with Bodog/Calvin both post UIGEA and during the most recent events (particularily his blog last week).

Actually, Nash, he hasn't removed the implied violence sections. If you scroll down from the main page of the blog, they are still there in the original article.

You make a good point about the other sites. Major Wager did a great job of getting out the legal documents when this first started, but not a word since. Especially not about the deal with the Mohawks, which to any person of reasonable intelligence is Calvin fleeing the gaming arena under the guise of a "licensing" agreement. Not a word on that. Not a word of analysis on the most important issue to forum readers...how is this going to affect my chances of ever getting paid by Bodog. Nothing at EOG, Nothing at Sportsbook, which for reasons beyond comprehension rates Bodog at A-.

Of course, Peep can't be bought off at OGD and this discussion here at Casinomeister is the best currently going on by a long ways. Intelligent respectful debate and some real information is coming out here.

Haven't heard back from Alwyn Morris yet. Hopefully by morning. He's in a very very difficult legal situation if this is all true.