Microgaming White Label Issue

[goldeninternetc]

Originally Posted by PlayShare

Hi Bryan,

The list has indeed been updated, with regards to Pharaohs and PlayersClub.

PlayersClub has already moved over to us (August 1st), and Pharaohs will move over at the end of this month.

Best Regards

Max Wright

CEO

PlayShare Group

Dear Max,

If the list is updated, WHY is it that you have Goldeninternetcasino on it?

Take it off. please.

It is not a casino. I told Chris many many times that I do not want this site to be a casino. Why is it that you did not even look at the list and see who is or who is not a casino?

Sorry to say, but it clears that you have not looked at the casinos listed.

Also, it would have been nice to read that I am not to blame for any of this.

This, but especially the fact you did not even look at Goldeninternetcasino, which is on the list of partner wl casinos prior to posting this, really disappointed me.

Goldeninternetc

[NASHVEGAS]

Originally Posted by goldeninternetc

Dear Max,

If the list is updated, WHY is it that you have Goldeninternetcasino on it?

Take it off. please.

It is not a casino. I told Chris many many times that I do not want this site to be a casino. Why is it that you did not even look at the list and see who is or who is not a casino?

Sorry to say, but it clears that you have not looked at the casinos listed.

Also, it would have been nice to read that I am not to blame for any of this.

This, but especially the fact you did not even look at Goldeninternetcasino, which is on the list of partner wl casinos prior to posting this, really disappointed me.

Goldeninternetc

Max may be a professional spin doctor but at least he spit it out which is better than the beloved Microgaming and all its suck buddies.

[babs7262]

I know people are gonna laugh at this post, but I too am not business savvy and I can't read everything because of my disability. I need to analyize this the way I think I get it. Would this be "Kinda" of what I am reading

You go to a supermarket, you need some soda. About a year ago you had an incident with Pepsi and you dont want to give Pepsi your business anymore(btw, i love pepsi products)

you walk down the aisle and see the "supermarket brand" you think you are drinking their brand but later find out that it's really a generic of pepsi and they are getting the profit from that sale?


You know, a few months ago I signed up for a new casino and a couple of weeks later I signed another one and when I tried to get my bonus (they emailed me with the offer) they said I already have an account. I think I got caught up in that White label thing

Anyway, before I even read this, I closed all of my MG accounts . I am only registered to ONE casino and it's RTG and when Im fed up with that one, Im sticking to land based. I dont use bonuses anymore, havnt in months

I think with losing the US money, they are gonna do anything they can to make up for it and the rest of the gambling world is gonna pay the price for this profit loss. It's a business and they all have a bottom line.

Did you ever think you would ever pay for water or radio growing up? Did you know that Pepsi just admitted to using NY tap water instead of spring water on their AquaFina products.???

Im not shocked at this by any means. The bottom line means staying in business or losing everything. I may not be college educated but Im not naive either.

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Originally Posted by babs7262

Im not shocked at this by any means. The bottom line means staying in business or losing everything. I may not be college educated but Im not naive either.

.....by being deceptive with no accountability and no transparency to the player(with Lycos being the only exception I reviewed). After rereading Mario's posts with Max trying to save his and Mario's rear, this appears to be a form of fraud on the player,imo,no different than when a player commits SO-CALLED fraud. It appears as of now, Microgaming is getting a free pass but I hope I am wrong. You be the judge.

[babs7262]

Im not taking the side of the fraudulant. Im just saying Im not shocked.

We get deceived EVERYday by companies and it does suck. "Buy one get one free" read T&C....."no cover" read T&C, "free dinner" read T&C, void where prohibited, etc.... it goes on and on.

You wanna know the biggest deception in my eyes? Medicare RX!!! what a joke, here millions of us thought our drugs were gonna be covered and it costs more to join that fucked up plan than if we just paid for our scripts.

So.... am I disappointed, yes? Am I shocked? no. I chalk it up to another scam in the business industry, let them hang themselves with enough of their own rope and move on

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Originally Posted by babs7262

Im not taking the side of the fraudulant. Im just saying Im not shocked.

We get deceived EVERYday by companies and it does suck. "Buy one get one free" read T&C....."no cover" read T&C, "free dinner" read T&C, void where prohibited, etc.... it goes on and on.

You wanna know the biggest deception in my eyes? Medicare RX!!! what a joke, here millions of us thought our drugs were gonna be covered and it costs more to join that fucked up plan than if we just paid for our scripts.

So.... am I disappointed, yes? Am I shocked? no. I chalk it up to another scam in the business industry, let them hang themselves with enough of their own rope and move on

Absolutely agree 100% and I have made this point to others thru PM's,e-mails,other media but in this case as has been stated in some previous posts, one can still inform via facts as well as one's opinion on this issue of which it is the consensus most could give a damn. However, those who happen to read this thread can never deny that the information was not provided where one at least can make its own informed decision. I did fwiw.

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by babs7262

I know people are gonna laugh at this post, but I too am not business savvy and I can't read everything because of my disability. I need to analyize this the way I think I get it. Would this be "Kinda" of what I am reading

You go to a supermarket, you need some soda. About a year ago you had an incident with Pepsi and you dont want to give Pepsi your business anymore(btw, i love pepsi products)

you walk down the aisle and see the "supermarket brand" you think you are drinking their brand but later find out that it's really a generic of pepsi and they are getting the profit from that sale?

You know, a few months ago I signed up for a new casino and a couple of weeks later I signed another one and when I tried to get my bonus (they emailed me with the offer) they said I already have an account. I think I got caught up in that White label thing

Anyway, before I even read this, I closed all of my MG accounts . I am only registered to ONE casino and it's RTG and when Im fed up with that one, Im sticking to land based. I dont use bonuses anymore, havnt in months

I think with losing the US money, they are gonna do anything they can to make up for it and the rest of the gambling world is gonna pay the price for this profit loss. It's a business and they all have a bottom line.

Did you ever think you would ever pay for water or radio growing up? Did you know that Pepsi just admitted to using NY tap water instead of spring water on their AquaFina products.???

Im not shocked at this by any means. The bottom line means staying in business or losing everything. I may not be college educated but Im not naive either.

This happens here in the UK too!
Most supermarket brands are made in factories operated by the big manufacturers. It is often the case that supermarket brands are made by the big names, such as Heinz. Supermarkets sell these cheaper than branded goods, but this just shows how much we overpay for a big brand label. It is near impossible to find out which supermarket brand is made by whom, as they refuse to say, and the law backs this up. In the above case, it would be impossible to guarantee to boycott a brand because of all the disguised products they also make. Maybe one day some bright spark will find a loophole that forces supermarkets to reveal the companies behind their own branded products, and this could apply to other sectors. Human rights might be the best bet here in the EU, such as "It is my HUMAN RIGHT to have information that can allow me to boycott brand X, and not be deceived into buying their produce by deceptive "own branding" by outlets".

It's a shame the UK Gambling commission does not recruit seasoned PLAYERS to it's committees, I bet this would scare the S.H.1.T out of a few casino operators who are attempting to "spin" their way into being on the whitelist

[jetset]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

It's a shame the UK Gambling commission does not recruit seasoned PLAYERS to it's committees

I've never been able to understand why these bodies do not encourage player ("consumer") involvement in these bodies unless it's because they fear debate and a different perspective. I think it could provide really valuable input, and a better knowledge of what really goes on in the front line.

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Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

This happens here in the UK too!
Most supermarket brands are made in factories operated by the big manufacturers. It is often the case that supermarket brands are made by the big names, such as Heinz. Supermarkets sell these cheaper than branded goods, but this just shows how much we overpay for a big brand label. It is near impossible to find out which supermarket brand is made by whom, as they refuse to say, and the law backs this up. In the above case, it would be impossible to guarantee to boycott a brand because of all the disguised products they also make. Maybe one day some bright spark will find a loophole that forces supermarkets to reveal the companies behind their own branded products, and this could apply to other sectors. Human rights might be the best bet here in the EU, such as "It is my HUMAN RIGHT to have information that can allow me to boycott brand X, and not be deceived into buying their produce by deceptive "own branding" by outlets".

It's a shame the UK Gambling commission does not recruit seasoned PLAYERS to it's committees, I bet this would scare the S.H.1.T out of a few casino operators who are attempting to "spin" their way into being on the whitelist

It is basically that way for all consumer products and with the vice versa being the actual brand manufactuer a la a Nike for example has I am guessing 100+ outsourced sub-contracted manufactuers of Nike t-shirts. These manufactuers could be producing the same t-shirts for an off label(NOT WHITE) brands with the only differences being no Nike name or logo and oh yeah, price. No difference in quality though.........When I was young(er), I worked in a factory(which my grandfather was the chief engineer) and the primary product produced was oscillating fans. Same fan came off the assembly line then a SEARS,J.C. PENNEY,ECKERDS,REVCO,OTHER or EVEN THE MANUFACTUERS'S NAME label was simply inserted into to the housing for the name label and voila. The retail prices obviously varied depending on where and which brand purchased. This is not breaking news but when I was 16 it was for moi..............BACK ON SUBJECT

[goldeninternetc]

I gotta say this: signatures are cool

A great discussion it has become and it has gotten results already.

Thanks for participating. (If that is up to me to say, I find it very interesting to see).

Thank you all for providing food for improvement.

Goldeninternetc