Any US players receive cashouts from NETeller yet?

**Mousey** · 2nd February 2007, 09:17 PM

I was one of the lucky ones. I ordered a NETeller card immediately after they stopped USA gambling transactions. It arrived a couple of days later, I activated it, ran around all over town like a chicken with my head cut off for 2 or 3 days trying to find an ATM where it would work. Then during the last 2 days before NETeller cut off USA use of the ATM card, I managed to get the vast majority of my funds out. Thank goodness for my losing streak from hell or I'd still have money in there -- I wouldn't have been able to get it all out in the 2 days that my card was working ....

A friend still has a $50 EFT to his bank lanquishing in 'pending' phase. And there is no 'cancel' button. I tell him he's lucky. But actually he's smarter than I was. He pulled the majority of his money out of NETeller to the bank just before the proverbial ka-ka hit the fan -- his funds hit his bank the day NETeller shut us out.

**vinylweatherman** · 2nd February 2007, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Philosopher

Yep...all US accounts have been uncertified to prevent peer-to-peer transfers.

Great...20k stuck in there still!

They state US accounts will be recertified within 10 days but peer-to-peer transfers would no longer work.

Have Neteller said why they did this?

When they shut down for gambling transfers, they told US account holders that they could still use their funds for non-gaming purposes. Since the only "non-gaming" service offered is peer to peer, it seems Neteller are doing their level best to STOP US players from having any kind of access to their funds - they even had to bodge peer to peer by uncertifying accounts to give them time to block it for a specific country.

Now they have made it impossible for US players to get their money out, or even to spend it - while not confiscation, it might as well be.
How would it look if this action had some people going personally bankrupt or having property repossesed, while at the same time having more than enough to cover liabilities stuck in Neteller, and now even Click2Pay.
I was mad enough over having the �6,000 jammed due to "technical difficulties", and am still awaiting the cheque I decided to have instead after they told me they could no longer transfer to my UK POUND bank HERE IN THE UK, till I produced a SWIFT or IBAN code. Today, they E-mail me telling me the technical glitch is over and I will receive my transfer in a couple of days. I hope they screw up & pay twice, i'll make them wait 10 days

**zaphod42** · 2nd February 2007, 11:22 PM

I'm about ready to go directly to NETeller headquarters and DEMAND they pay me. Cash, cheque, whatever, just give me my god damn money.

The cost of a round trip plane ticket is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of my money they are sitting on... Worst of all, none of the money owed to me is gambling money either so they're on really shaky legal ground.

And I simply don't buy their B.S. about not being able to issue paper cheques. Being a business person myself, I know precisely how easy it is to get a Canadian or other processing company to cut cheques for you as a business, it can be done in less than a week.

All they can tell me is "Your money is safe." Yeah no shit, that's the problem: it's in YOUR fucking safe making YOU money. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Anyone want to go with me to NETeller headquarters and let them know exactly how serious we are?

**winbig** · 2nd February 2007, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by zaphod42

I'm about ready to go directly to NETeller headquarters and DEMAND they pay me. Cash, cheque, whatever, just give me my god damn money.

The cost of a round trip plane ticket is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of my money they are sitting on... Worst of all, none of the money owed to me is gambling money either so they're on really shaky legal ground.

And I simply don't buy their B.S. about not being able to issue paper cheques. Being a business person myself, I know precisely how easy it is to get a Canadian or other processing company to cut cheques for you as a business, it can be done in less than a week.

All they can tell me is "Your money is safe." Yeah no shit, that's the problem: it's in YOUR fucking safe making YOU money. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Anyone want to go with me to NETeller headquarters and let them know exactly how serious we are?

I would advise you to send a PM to Bryan ASAP...He's looking for people that have money in Neteller that they can't get out...

**rmarrandino** · 3rd February 2007, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by zaphod42

All they can tell me is "Your money is safe." Yeah no shit, that's the problem: it's in YOUR fucking safe making YOU money. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

It's amazing that they can get away with this.

**two_card** · 4th February 2007, 04:13 PM

I sent an email to Neteller asking about getting my funds in the Isle of Man when I am in England next month.

Surprise - no response after several days.

Is this really a possibility ?

**winbig** · 4th February 2007, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by two_card

Is this really a possibility ?

No

**vinylweatherman** · 5th February 2007, 12:46 AM

While they can't pay out from HQ, there should be no reason why you cannot spend your funds while on holiday should you find a place that accepts Neteller (pretty unlikely though). If you have the ATM card, it should work outside the US without problems.

IF you have relatives here, you could change your Neteller address to their house, and this should make you a temporary resident of the UK, and you will be subject to UK laws, which means you can play online and withdraw funds. If Neteller have a problem with freeing funds for US players who emigrate, or take up a temporary residence abroad, they are not telling the whole truth about this. Normally, people can spend their own money in a foreign country even if the goods/services would not be legal back home. For example, you could legally buy a joint in an Amsterdam "coffee shop", even though bringing it back home would land you in serious trouble! (You might even find that Amsterdam coffee shop that takes Neteller

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**zaphod42** · 5th February 2007, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

While they can't pay out from HQ, there should be no reason why you cannot spend your funds while on holiday should you find a place that accepts Neteller (pretty unlikely though). If you have the ATM card, it should work outside the US without problems.

Actually, the ATM cards issued by NETeller to U.S. residents are different than the ATM cards issued to Europeans... And much to my dismay, the "american" NETeller ATM cards do not work outside the U.S. Last year I spent over a week trying my card at dozens of ATMs throughout Europe including Germany, London and Amsterdam with zero success.

I finally managed to get NETeller customer service to admit to me (in a heated chat session) that my card will NOT work outside the U.S. And they wouldn't issue me a European ATM card either.

**spearmaster** · 5th February 2007, 10:58 PM

Just in case anyone is curious:

I have a "European" card - that is the blue-colored card which will work outside the US, not the gold-colored one which works only inside the US. Nevertheless, it is now "expired" even though there is no expiry date on the card. So I cannot withdraw any funds using the ATM card.

I cannot transfer money to my bank, which is in the US.

I cannot transfer money to any online gambling site.

And now, to top it all off, my "Certified" status - same for all US account holders - has temporarily been removed, to be restored in 10 days, but peer-to-peer transactions will NO longer be enabled.

In short - all US accounts are completely frozen. Your money is "held in trust" until they decide what to do about it.

In other words - all US members are screwed until further notice.