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What does that mean? Does it mean BOS is saying they do not feel they are subject to US law?
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Difficult to say, and you'll note that their (U.S.) lawyer refused to comment further on his instructions not to appear for the arraignment.
That indicates to me that he doesn't want to be dragged in to the consequences of their actions, and doesn't want to be caught out lying or exacerbating the situation so has just refused to comment to the media. If the prosecution is successful in getting a court ruling that BoS explain their instructions to their US legal counsel not to appear, and they ignore that then things could get quite nasty, I believe - don't forget the US's "special relationship" extradition deal with the UK government; they might even try that route. My own opinion is that they may be about to try the "You have no jurisdiction over us, therefore we don't recognise your charges" approach. I would have thought that was difficult to justify, given the fact that BoS has recognised the US Court's authority in the civil case (ie closing off US facing sites and agreeing to return deposits to US players) I'd be surprised if Mr. Demerath was not in the picture on BoS's overall strategy.
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Well, lawyers are known to drop their clients when the client takes action the lawyer considers harmful to the case. Happens all the time. Didn't happen (yet) here.
So Mr. Demerath can be assumed to be in agreement with the strategy...
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What happened to the BetonSports database?
U.S. PROSECUTOR SCATHING ON BETONSPORTS
Non appearance for arraignment strongly criticised Betonsports Plc, the British Internet sports book, should be cited for contempt of court after failing to appear for a scheduled arraignment in St. Louis federal court on January 5, federal prosecutors said this week. Bloombergs business news reports that the London-based company was indicted last summer for violating U.S. interstate wire gambling laws and racketeering offences. Last week (see previous InfoPowa reports), Jeffrey Demerath, an attorney for the once-publicly traded company, told U.S. District Judge Carol Jackson in St. Louis that his clients had instructed him not to appear to answer the charges. Betonsports' decision "suggests that corporate management is neither in a coma nor dead but, instead, contemptuous and defiant,'' prosecutor Michael Fagan said this week in court papers. The London-based company took in wagers in 2004 totaling $1.25 billion, 98 percent of which were sports bets placed by U.S. gamblers using Betonsports' Web sites and U.S. phone lines, Jackson found in a previous ruling. Company founder Gary Kaplan and now-former Chief Executive Officer David Carruthers were indicted on gambling and racketeering charges, along with nine other defendants. Prosecutors are seeking the forfeiture of $4.5 billion. Carruthers and six other defendants appeared in court July 31 to plead not guilty. Kaplan and two other defendants are still at large. Demerath didn't return a Bloomsberg call seeking comment. In November, he was one of two corporate attorneys who signed a consent agreement with federal prosecutors, paving the way for Jackson to issue an order permanently banning Betonsports from doing business in the U.S. At that time Fagan and co-counsel Marty Woelfle asked Jackson to impose fines on the company or order that its officers and directors be arrested for their "willful disregard'' of the court's processes and proceedings. Meanwhile, media reports claim that thousands of angry customers have been calling the prosecution's offices throughout the December holidays demanding to know why they have yet to be paid. The information portal Gambling911 published a story that revealed that some customers who have been in contact are owed upwards of $35 000. The site also reported that one of the main board directors, Operations Manager Clive Archer, fled Costa Rica and is yet to return, and quotes an unidentified former employee as saying: "He took with him all the server information and customer details."
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I still have friends that are yet to be paid out from this people , and by friends I mean employees.
If the arent even paying the people that work for them do YOU really think they are going to pay the players?? ![]() |
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Mvpbets which is owned by betonsports own me money that I had in my account. How should I go about this to get my money.
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The picture looks pretty grim, but Antigua (the licensing jurisdiction) is making a big deal out of this and has frozen the local assets of BetonSports, claiming they are looking out for the interests of the players.
I suspect they have another motive, but as long as they get you paid..... I would submit a complaint to their director of gaming, Kaye MacDonald who's email is: Kaye MacDonald director@antiguagaming.gov.ag Antigua Gaming Authority Phone: (268) 481 3300 You could also try iBAS if you made a sports bet.
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IMO it's the US government's fault. Shutting down a business in the middle of operations involving foreign jurisdictions. They should have consulted with Antigua and made arrangements before deciding to cut off the flow of money owed to it's own US citizens.
And that would be the point Antigua is making. Who is screwed? The player. Does the US government care? No. They figure it will have a chilling effect on players.
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I am certainly glad that BOS didn't have copies of my bank statement, credit card, government issued ID card, phone bill, utility bill, fingerprints, cornea / retina scan, and a copy of my butt, in BOS files - when Operations Manager Clive Archer, fled Costa Rica. Mr. Archer could possibly be selling that photocopy of my butt to internet porn sites the world over. Well, at least he would have my bank account / NETeller info. to EFT my cut of the profits to. REOspeedealer
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