I have blacklisted Clubdice, Carnival, New York, USA Casinos and CDpoker

[dominique]

I have not been contacted.

Things would be a lot easier if I were.

[lots0]

I just spent a whole hour of my and two of my employees time reporting javascript SPAM to google and guess what... every single page of SPAM we reported redirected to a Cpays Casino and we reported all the Spam we saw and there was a LOT of it.

Yup, I am glad I changed my mind about listing Cpays as a Blacklisted Casino programme, got my monkey working on a Rogue Cpays page as I type this.

Dominique, after a lot of thought, I believe your right about taking care of these Spammers. It is just like cleaning a lived in house, it never ends.

The most amazing thing I see in this Cpays disaster is the support Cpays is getting from one small sector of our industry.

I find it amazing that one of the so called “watchdogs” of the casino affiliate industry not only defends Cpays but has tried to stop the blacklisting of Cpays for months now. Even in the face of all the proof that Cpays is a scumbag spamming outfit, this person still defends and protects Cpays... Methinks this person is not what he seems to be. I won’t name names here, but I think every Casino Affiliate out there knows who I am talking about.

[lots0]

I see where Cpays now sz they are going to start addressing the issues.

Hey Ora, how about not paying your affiliate ID "aimer" for all the SPAM, you know all the stuff showing up in the search engines like this...

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mattsabrina.mabulle.com

It looks real good when you turn off the javascript and look at it...

When this shit starts disappearing from the search engines I might decide to put Cpays on Probation.

[dominique]

Casino Pays has made the very positive move of cleaning up the SEO contest:

CPayscom SEO Contest - New SEO Competition

They very clearly refer participants to the google page for webmaster guidlelines.

This is a very positive step forward and one I truly appreciate. We just saved ourselves from hundreds of thousands of spam entries.

I will be adjusting my blacklist page accordingly.

There still is a lot of spamdexing to be dealt with, and I hope this big first step is a sign of great things to come and Casinopays will clean all the spamdexing webmasters out of it's affiliate and marketing system.

[winbig]

Casino Pays has made the very positive move of cleaning up the SEO contest:

CPayscom SEO Contest - New SEO Competition

They very clearly refer participants to the google page for webmaster guidlelines.

This is a very positive step forward and one I truly appreciate. We just saved ourselves from hundreds of thousands of spam entries.

I will be adjusting my blacklist page accordingly.

There still is a lot of spamdexing to be dealt with, and I hope this big first step is a sign of great things to come and Casinopays will clean all the spamdexing webmasters out of it's affiliate and marketing system.

Definately a positive move, but:

We’re in the third week of the competition now and it’s
great to see that so many sites are already participating in the competition. However, we wanted to get one thing in the clear.
We thought it went without saying, but really, guys: No
dirty stuff! Any SEO caught doing any of the following:
stealing content, hiding links, etc. WILL NOT qualify for
any of the prizes. So keep it cool and... play nice!

edit: Why didn't they just cancel all entries and restart it? By not doing that, they're still going to have the spammers in it; thinking they can still break the rules and win...even if it's a futile attempt.

Also, it's quite funny the part about "We thought it went without saying, but really, guys: No dirty stuff!".....when they encouraged it in the first place.

And what about this little tidbit:

We our proud to present the Second CPayscom search engine optimization contest with a prize pool of $20,000! Again you are challenged to outsmart the biggest search engines on the internet! This time the big prize will go to the #1 MSN’er!

Outsmart? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but to me that sounds like "get around the rules and get your site up at the top, even on searches where it has no relevance"...

[lots0]

I havent even got my Cpays Blacklist page up yet... But we will have it up in a day or two.

Actions speak louder than words, when I see some action from Cpays and not just talk we'll think about removing Cpays from the blacklist and putting cpays on the not recommened list, after all this we won't recommed them until they have new management.

Come on Dom your not even going to wait to see a little something more than a trite comment on their so called 'rules'... you can't really be saying that all of a sudden these guys are to be trusted at their word?

Dom if your going to back down so easy, why bother to blacklist them in the first place?

A quote from Ora at Cpays:

"We do not believe that banning the affiliate will solve the spam issue."

No they believe in paying the SPAMMERS... Dom I can't believe your pulling your Cpays Rogue page... These guys are the problem.

[kwblue]

I think that CPays made a positive move, but it is just 'all fluff' until I see:

1. Results

2. Spammers BANNED and their accounts closed instead of CPays feeling that they can 'reform' them.


Until then, my blacklist pages remain. I think CPays will make the right move and begin to close accounts. It is only to their benefit to do so.

[lots0]

I am offering a free link to any Cpays Rogue/Blacklist page.

You can submit your page or you can PM me with it here.

Casino Directory: Rogue Casinos

[winbig]

Does anyone have a conctact email address for anyone at CPays? Funny how abuse@ and spam@ emails bounce. Go figure. The only way I see to contact them is via the lame contact form they have setup. What a bunch of BS.


It seems that the same group that was spamming Vegas Red, Tropez, and Europa (The HI-R0LLER casino mails) have moved from CP to Cpays and are spamming the hell out of Vegas Lounge now.

They've even went to the extent of running 2 domains at once now in each email. I guess their domains were being shutdown too fast for them.


Update: Found manager@cpays.com on their T&C page. It was listed under the "exit traffic" clause, but no contact address is listed for the spam clause Should we start a poll on whether or not CPays will act on this?

It's being discussed on the CAP board (Anyone able to identify this spam?), but it looks like they're taking a laidback approach (Trying to contact the owner of the domains they're using, etc....), even after they've been told this is a group of about 70 spammers; and not just some individual.

As you can see, this email is almost the exact same as the VR group used. There's no doubt it's the same people.

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[kwblue]

At the CAP thread, CPays responded that they are no longer paying one of the main SE Spammers. That is good in my book.

I would love to see them shut down the email spammer as well - they stated that they had already shut them down, but it appears not.