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Casinomeister (26th July 2006), cipher (26th July 2006), lots0 (27th July 2006), paul1 (27th July 2006) | ||
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Here's the paragraph I took note of
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The Wire Act of 1961 was established for the purpose of cracking down on sports betting and organized crime's involvement with it. Sports betting is more social, involving many people's money on team games that were televised, radio-ed, and the results published in the newspapers. Casino games were limited to the casinos in Las Vegas and other minor places and impossible to use the telephone for playing such games. To say that the Wire Act also covers the Internet which wasn't invented yet and covers casino games which wasn't possible or feasible back then is stretching the truth. Now if organized crime is still prevalent within the sports-betting arena, then perhaps the intent of the Wire Act could be played upon by prosecutors but eventually the Act should be updated to present reality of the Internet and other means of communications. Another reality though is that organized crime may not be prevalent in sports-betting as it once was. The bigger online sports-betting companies are regulated by other countries and listed on stock exchanges. Much bigger thieves work on US soil for Enrons, and Worldcoms and possible money-laundering through the commodity exchanges of Chicago and New York. |
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If the whole problem the government has with Internet gambling is that it is immoral, threatens American families and the economy, etc., then why the hell do we have brick and mortar casinos on American soil? Is it really a problem of ethics or is it a problem for the owners of Vegas, Foxwood's and the like not getting their own pockets padded as heavily as they used to (due to free competition)? And how much do their operations contribute to the government (since they are strictly taxed)? How about state-instituted lotteries? Multi-state Powerball?
The answer is not to ban online gambling. If kids are illegally gambling (on or off line) then their parents must take responsibility for it. If adults have gambling problems it's their responsibility to get help. Quit making the government have to protect American citizens from themselves. Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't America founded on freedom? We The People should be allowed to make our own decisions and deal with the consequences of those decisions. The government is once again meddling where they shouldn't because it contradicts this country's founding principle! If the government is truly concerned about the scourge of gambling in American society, then why don't they attack the country's on-soil operations? Better yet, make a unilateral ban on gambling of all forms. The U.S. Government does not have the testicular fortitude to pursue substantitive moral issues. Attacking offshore casinos, major search engines, and media outlets is a cop out and reaks of election year politics. It not only hurts our international free trade, but our American companies as well (see government lawsuits against Google, Yahoo and Discovery Channel on advertising Party Poker, Pacific Poker and Casino City advertising). Further, it perpetuates the "Big Bully" American persona that we've engendered abroad. |
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The [bad] tide seems to be turning in the Senate, where according to reports Tuesday and yesterday the anti-online gambling bills are running into time-out problems due to growing opposition from various interests, which are presumably applying pressure to some of the politicians.
There's a real chance, according to various aides on Capitol Hill that anti-online gambling could again come unstuck despite the vigorous efforts of Kyl et al to try and exploit every rule there is to get this legislation through. This is as exciting as watching a major race....and there's a lot more money involved in all quarters!!! Good post, kel01720 - the hypocrisy and flawed thinking in this legislation is astonishing, and that says little for those supporting it.
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Yes they are, as they should be! I'm posting an article I just read from abc7news.com.
July 19 - The WTO on Wednesday set up a panel to investigate whether U.S. restrictions on Internet gambling comply with international trade rules. The Caribbean country of Antigua and Barbuda had asked for the World Trade Organization to set up the panel after consultations with the United States failed to yield a solution. The dispute centers on whether Washington should drop prohibitions on Americans placing bets in online casinos. A previous WTO ruling said that some U.S. laws were in line with international commerce rules, but others were not. "The United States has been busy passing legislation that is directly and unequivocally contrary to the ruling," Antigua told a meeting of the WTO's dispute settlement body. "Antigua and Barbuda considers that the United States has taken no measures to comply with the recommendations and rulings of the DSB (Dispute Settlement Body)," Antigua said. The United States contends that Internet gambling should be prohibited because it violates some U.S. state laws, and told the WTO's dispute settlement body in April that it believed its laws were in line with trade rules. Antigua says the offshore industry is a lucrative source of revenue and provides an income for hundreds of islanders. The prohibitions, it says, are hurting the two-island country's efforts to diversify its economy away from tourism. In particular, Antigua cites three federal U.S. laws that effectively prohibited their companies from providing gambling services to consumers in the United States: the Wire Act, the Travel Act and the Illegal Gaming Business Act. The panel will report on U.S. compliance within 90 days. That decision can then be appealed by either side. Antigua, a former British colony, filed the case before the WTO in 2003, contending that U.S. restrictions on Internet gambling violated trade commitments the United States made as a member of the WTO. U.S. trade officials disagreed, saying that negotiators involved in the Uruguay Round of global trade talks, which created the WTO in 1995, clearly intended to exclude gambling. (end of article) It's good to see some offshore organizations standing up to the U.S. government. Although I'm extremely disappointed with BetOnSports abandoning their CEO in time of need. Nothing like kicking your head honcho while he's down! Their reasoning is weak at best. Do you think Kaplan has changed his name and escaped to the Cayman Islands yet? |
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U.S. gambling bill put on 'hold'
Congressional sources cited in the Washington Post have said that the bill banning most forms of internet gambling was not going to pass. It is thought that some Republican senators have broken rank and put a 'hold' on the legislation, which will prevent it from being brought up for vote until concerns on the measure are resolved. http://www.ateonline.co.uk/
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As it is, foreign sites have access to the US market, but don't have to follow US rules and regulations, and don't pay US taxes. It's a great setup for them. Especially since, if US companies did enter the market, they'd lose much of their business. |
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I think that is what is wrong with the US Government, ass holes like this Leach are running things. I am gonna find out who is running against this guy in the next election and send him/her some cash.
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