3Dice Casino - Confiscation of 40 Euro for playing too little

[Markus]

Come on Markus, give this up now will you?

I only wanted to make my opinion clear for one more time. But you are right I just have to accept now that the Casinomeister community has another opinion then I have.

No one "Forced you to make a 251 Euro bet" - that's just more bull's dropping & you know it.
You could have wagered the amount requested by Enzo playing $1/hand blackjack, or something like that, with a good chance of losing less than 251 Euro. OK it would have taken quite a while, but probably not as long as typing out more protestations of innocence which are only going to fall on deaf ears here now anyway...

I have offered Enzo zu wager my deposit 5 times in Blackjack, but instead he asked me to either win 50% or to lose 50% of my deposit (see this post)

[jas2587]

I'm very serious.

I read your post and you mentioned 'bot users and bonus abusers'. It's obvious what a 'bot user' is - somebody that uses bots to play for them (although detection is I think quite difficult).

But 'bonus abuser' is as far as I can tell a meaningless term and is just a way for casinos to confiscate people's winnings on a whim.

So if you're going to use it you should be able to define it.

Definition please.

found thru Google

Bonus Abuse
Due to the large amount of money casinos make available through bonuses they are obviously keen to protect that investment and this is why bonus whores and bonus abuse is an important aspect of online casino play.

Bonus abuse is when a player signs up with a casino with the sole intention of cashing out the various bonuses that are offered by the casino. A bonus abuser, or bonus whore as they are often known, often targets the first deposit bonus as this requires the least amount of commitment on their part.

Casinos have a set of wagering requirements for each of the bonuses they offer in order to stop as much bonus abuse as possible. Some casinos have stricter wagering requirements than others and it is often those with the weaker wagering requirements that are most susceptible to bonus abuse. Casinos can often suspend the accounts of players suspected of bonus abuse to avoid any future bonus abuse. The terms and conditions that a player must agree to in order to sign up to a casino very much favour the casino in these instances.

Casinos will usually require a player to wager at least as much as the bonus (but often more depending on the bonus) in order to qualify for it and then they will have to wager that bonus about 25 times (depending on the casino) in order to cash it out and withdraw it to their bank account. Having to wager the bonus that amount of times obviously means there is a high chance the bonus will be lost and that is exactly why they are able to offer such generous looking incentives to play.
Cindy

[thelawnet]

found thru Google

Bonus Abuse
Due to the large amount of money casinos make available through bonuses they are obviously keen to protect that investment and this is why bonus whores and bonus abuse is an important aspect of online casino play.

Bonus abuse is when a player signs up with a casino with the sole intention of cashing out the various bonuses that are offered by the casino. A bonus abuser, or bonus whore as they are often known, often targets the first deposit bonus as this requires the least amount of commitment on their part.

By this definition, anyone who withdraws from a casino having received a bonus is a 'bonus abuser', because if you withdraw you must have the intention to withdraw, which makes you a bonus abuser. This doesn't seem like a very good definition to me. I can't see any casino lasting very long saying that anyone who plays with the intention to withdraw is a 'bonus abuser'.

If you go to Las Vegas they don't say 'Sorry Sir, only losers are allowed here, you can't take your winnings.'

Casinos have a set of wagering requirements for each of the bonuses they offer in order to stop as much bonus abuse as possible.

This seems to be a fancy way of saying 'the wagering restrictions are so tough, that you're going to lose your money whatever happens'.

Some casinos have stricter wagering requirements than others and it is often those with the weaker wagering requirements that are most susceptible to bonus abuse.

Hmm, if you accept the definition implied above, that a bonus abuser is someone who withdraws their money from a casino, then that does make sense, because weaker wagering requirements mean fewer people will go bust and so will have money left to withdraw.

I'm not sure I like that definition very much.

[jas2587]

By this definition, anyone who withdraws from a casino having received a bonus is a 'bonus abuser', because if you withdraw you must have the intention to withdraw, which makes you a bonus abuser. This doesn't seem like a very good definition to me. I can't see any casino lasting very long saying that anyone who plays with the intention to withdraw is a 'bonus abuser'.

If you go to Las Vegas they don't say 'Sorry Sir, only losers are allowed here, you can't take your winnings.'



This seems to be a fancy way of saying 'the wagering restrictions are so tough, that you're going to lose your money whatever happens'.



Hmm, if you accept the definition implied above, that a bonus abuser is someone who withdraws their money from a casino, then that does make sense, because weaker wagering requirements mean fewer people will go bust and so will have money left to withdraw.

I'm not sure I like that definition very much.

it isnt my definition so get off my back please what have i done to you for you to churn me out?

[spearmaster]

I have offered Enzo zu wager my deposit 5 times in Blackjack, but instead he asked me to either win 50% or to lose 50% of my deposit (see this post)

That did not mean you had to make a single bet. You just had to achieve a level 50% higher or lower. KasinoKing clearly said "at $1/hand" - which still could've caused you to reach a point at 50% higher or lower than your deposit, just over a period of hands. No one forced or asked you to make a single bet of 251 Euros.

This thread is now closed as there will be nothing gained by making further posts. You are welcome to start a bonus abuse thread elsewhere.

[Simmo!]

And it came to pass the hordes doth bow down hither before the chosen one, for it is written that the Spear is mightier than the sword. Forthwith they do wail, and weep and there is the sound of great moaning and negative reputation buttons being press-ed for the Moderator hath spoken. Here endeth the thread. Amen. To that.

Book of False Testimony, Chapter IV, Verse II

[spearmaster]

And it came to pass the hordes doth bow down hither before the chosen one, for it is written that the Spear is mightier than the sword. Forthwith they do wail, and weep and there is the sound of great moaning and negative reputation buttons being press-ed for the Moderator hath spoken. Here endeth the thread. Amen. To that.

Book of False Testimony, Chapter IV, Verse II

WTF... LOL... you still mad I'm whupping your blue hide at UTourGolf?