Non-Bonus Complaint ...Let The Fun Begin - Re: Banned States & MG

[winbig]

OMG I am so P**SED RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS! I LIVE IN PENNSYLVANIA, NOT NEW JERSEY.

I'm an innocent bystander! I think the way MG is going about this is ALL WRONG. They are apparently using IP address information from ARIN (www.arin.net), and going solely by where the company that the IP's are registered to is. That has NOTHING to do with where I am PHYSICALLY located.

Hi Brian !

In light of the recent changes in US legislation, the Jackpot Factory casino group has decided to stop taking
bets from players residing in the following states, as determined by the player's IP address:

* Kentucky, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New York,
Oregon, Utah, South Dakota, Washington and Wisconsin.
* Unfortunately, your IP address traces to New Jersey,
and on Tuesday, November 4th, your account will be blocked.
* Please note that the casino will conduct a manual withdrawal for any remaining funds in your casino cash
account at the start of the next work week. The Jackpot Factory prides itself on its honesty and integrity,
so please rest assured that you will receive your outstanding funds.
* If you do not actually reside in New Jersey, please forward a valid picture ID with current address
(such as a driver's license) to us at support@jackpotfactory.com.
* If you do not actually reside in New Jersey, please forward a valid picture ID with current address
(such as a driver's license) to us at support@jackpotfactory.com.

Thank you for understanding in this matter.

All the best,

David Brickman

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OrgName: Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless
OrgID: CLLC
Address: 180 Washington Valley Road
City: Bedminster
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 07039
Country: US

NetRange: 75.192.0.0 - 75.255.255.255
CIDR: 75.192.0.0/10
NetName: WIRELESSDATANEWORK
NetHandle: NET-75-192-0-0-1
Parent: NET-75-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: CARKDNS.VZWDOMAIN.COM
NameServer: NJBRDNS.VZWDOMAIN.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2006-01-18
Updated: 2007-01-22

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE716-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-908-306-7000
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@verizonwireless.com

OrgTechHandle: MGE16-ARIN
OrgTechName: George, Matt
OrgTechPhone: +1-800-770-1779
OrgTechEmail: abuse@verizonwireless.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-10-30 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

[babs7262]

I knew this was going to happen. This is just the beginning. RTG will no doubt follow suit in the future. How the heck is your IP a NJ trace anyway?

[Westland Bowl]

I guess MG doesn't want to be charged on a technicality that gambling bytes are being routed through servers based in a banned state even though the player lives in an allowable state.

Those living close to the banned states would have to switch to ISPs that have servers within their allowable state. It works the other way too; those who live in any of the banned states can get an ISP with servers in an allowable state- but come the time to withdrawal, they may have a problem with the documentation requirements.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by babs7262

I knew this was going to happen. This is just the beginning. RTG will no doubt follow suit in the future. How the heck is your IP a NJ trace anyway?

I travel frequently, so I use what's basically a 'wireless modem' for my Internet access, through Verizon. I can be online anywhere in the country that I can get a Verizon signal.

Since it works on any computer that I plug it into, I use it for access at home, too. That way I don't have to pay for two Internet providers.

You'd be surprised at how many innocent people are going to be affected by this method of blocking users. Especially when it comes to the national ISP's....I could almost guarantee that a lot of Kentuckians or other people in other banned states are going to get around the blocks, simply because whichever address their ISP's IP addresses are registered to point to a different state altogether.

Local ISP's are going to be affected, but if you use a national ISP, chances are you're either SOL, or very lucky.

Here's a pic of my modem:

[winbig]

Originally Posted by Westland Bowl

Those living close to the banned states would have to switch to ISPs that have servers within their allowable state. It works the other way too; those who live in any of the banned states can get an ISP with servers in an allowable state- but come the time to withdrawal, they may have a problem with the documentation requirements.

You're kidding, right? I'm not switching ISP's simply because Beshear wants to govern the Internet.

I will fight this tooth and nail, no matter what it takes. It's not about being able to gamble online or where my IP address supposedly is "located," it's all about the principle of the matter now.

I'm in live chat with the VPL group right now, trying to find out what their stance is on this.

[sdaddy]

For now, I'll withhold final judgment on how disruptive this new policy is until we see how efficiently they review ID docs from players who were mistakenly flagged by their IP identification and want to challenge the blocking of their account.

Let us know how it goes, winbig.

[NASHVEGAS]

SOL WITH A VZW USB720 MODEM and OUR NEXT GOVERNOR IN 2010

Thanks for heads up Winbig

[winbig]

Originally Posted by NASHVEGAS

SOL WITH A VZW USB720 MODEM and OUR NEXT GOVERNOR IN 2010

Thanks for heads up Winbig

An easy way to see if you're affected by this or not is to head over to:

www.whatismyip.com, grab the IP address it says you have, then visit www.arin.net with that IP and paste it into the box in the upper right corner and click 'search whois.'

[NASHVEGAS]

Thanks and had already done as I saw your posts in the MG/PRIMA thread. I now reside in Jersey

OrgName: Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless
OrgID: CLLC
Address: 180 Washington Valley Road
City: Bedminster
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 07039
Country: US

[RobWin]

Hell, it looks as though I live in the Cheese State...LOL !!

OrgName: TDS TELECOM
OrgID: TDST
Address: 525 Junction Rd.
City: Madison
StateProv: WI
PostalCode: 53717
Country: US

Even though my bills tell me I live here in Georgia...

Well here's a couple of quick fixes until MG come to their senses and start going by your actual physical addresses...

Proxyway.com

iPrivacyTools.com

Tor Project

Proxy 4 Free

Proxy For Free List
IP  Port         Type       Country     Last     Test 
 

60.169.11.188 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
222.35.73.93 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
123.111.230.136 8080 anonymous South Korea 2008-10-29 Whois 
67.69.254.243 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
85.185.100.2 3128 anonymous Iran 2008-10-31 Whois 
80.80.12.123 80 anonymous Denmark 2008-10-29 Whois 
212.100.132.146 3128 anonymous Russian Federation 2008-10-30 Whois 
218.5.18.131 3128 anonymous China 2008-10-30 Whois 
220.241.79.178 3128 anonymous Hong Kong 2008-10-30 Whois 
210.51.14.197 80 anonymous China 2008-10-30 Whois 
213.180.131.135 80 anonymous Poland 2008-10-29 Whois 
200.174.85.195 3128 transparent Brazil 2008-10-29 Whois 
210.51.33.43 80 transparent China 2008-10-30 Whois 
58.222.254.10 3128 anonymous China 2008-10-31 Whois 
200.181.55.100 3128 anonymous Brazil 2008-10-31 Whois 
61.166.68.72 80 high anonymity China 2008-10-30 Whois 
200.209.212.2 3128 anonymous Brazil 2008-10-31 Whois 
211.24.226.8 80 anonymous Malaysia 2008-10-29 Whois 
200.206.46.178 3128 anonymous Brazil 2008-10-29 Whois 
61.166.68.71 80 high anonymity China 2008-10-29 Whois 
89.208.32.109 3128 anonymous Russian Federation 2008-10-30 Whois 
67.69.254.251 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
58.211.78.143 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
210.51.4.173 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
202.162.209.78 8080 anonymous Indonesia 2008-10-30 Whois 
200.174.85.193 3128 transparent Brazil 2008-10-29 Whois 
61.120.148.32 8080 anonymous Japan 2008-10-29 Whois 
203.162.183.222 80 transparent Vietnam 2008-10-29 Whois 
213.4.106.85 8080 anonymous Spain 2008-10-29 Whois 
67.69.254.254 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
222.35.73.92 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
202.98.23.116 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
86.105.181.238 3128 anonymous Romania 2008-10-31 Whois 
61.55.135.1 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
200.64.191.50 3128 anonymous Mexico 2008-10-29 Whois 
195.250.175.139 80 anonymous Estonia 2008-10-31 Whois 
64.66.192.61 80 anonymous United States 2008-10-29 Whois 
87.86.13.29 80 anonymous Great Britain (UK) 2008-10-31 Whois 
66.198.41.11 3128 anonymous Syria 2008-10-29 Whois 
213.41.71.164 80 high anonymity France 2008-10-29 Whois 
222.35.73.84 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
217.147.30.24 8080 anonymous Russian Federation 2008-10-30 Whois 
202.98.23.114 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
67.69.254.245 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
 
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The one listed there from the US (Highlighted in Red) is located out of :64.66.192.61

OrgName: Pac-West Telecomm, INC.
OrgID: PWTI
Address: 1776 W. March Lane
Address: Suite 250
City: Stockton
StateProv: CAPostalCode: 95207
Country: US

This may be the only way around this BS until MG gets their head out of their A**