Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate?

[ergopro]

got this 5minutes ago...

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[dominique]

I got one too, but they are likely in queue to be sent and it should stop soon.

[ergopro]

Do these ever stop?

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[winbig]

Originally Posted by dominique

I got one too, but they are likely in queue to be sent and it should stop soon.

They should be finished by now, but aren't. I worked at an ISP, and when we'd get hit by spammers relaying through a server (this was before spam was such a major issue that it is now), it'd process about 2,000/hr minimum.

[winbig]

Bryan, is there an update regarding this situation? I can tell you for a fact that they're adding new names to their spam list. They just sent an email to my other gmail account that was previously free of this Vegas Red spam.

To me, this definately verifies that the affiliate account(s) is(are) still open.

X-Gmail-Received: f801b18291545d71d11efd33b49343f441a3b92e
Delivered-To: xxxxx@gmail.com
Received: by 10.78.186.8 with SMTP id j8cs17642huf;
Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:58:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.54.113.19 with SMTP id l19mr1396724wrc;
Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <Grunion77@hushmail.com>
Received: from dsl-201-128-51-246.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-201-128-51-246.prod-infinitum.com.mx [201.128.51.246])
by mx.gmail.com with SMTP id g2si2723956wra.2006.07.21.17.58.21;
Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 201.128.51.246 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of Grunion77@hushmail.com)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:12:23 +0000
From: Irene Levine <Grunion77@hushmail.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) CD5BF9353B3B7091
Reply-To: Irene Levine <Grunion77@hushmail.com>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <880964197.1116893543@hushmail.com>
To: xxxx@gmail.com
Subject: you are gonna love are games -Irene
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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[spam url deleted]

[winyourwager]

I'm still getting these junk mailers

[Andreas]

This one is really getting out of hand... I'm on this spammer for quite some time now, doing my research and stuff, doing posts on GPWA and CAP and on my own sites...

I just post here the post I just did on CAP, maybe I'm just to lazy to write this again, maybe I've spent to much time time on this issue in the past few days...

There are several threads going on all over the gambling boards and also several spamfighter boards about this hi roller spam wave for Vegas Red...
So maybe this will give you some more insight on this issue...

Here are the links to the threads
GPWA: http://gpwa.net/forum/showthread.php?t=167057
CAP: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?t=13052
GamblingGuards: http://gamblingguards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113

What the F... is going on at Casino Partners?

Here is another one I just received!!
same setup, again one of the affiliate ID's used in the mailings over the last month: vegas22

*****************************************

Quote:
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As one of the oldest and most established online casino, Hi-Roller caters not only to the serious seasoned gambler, but also to players new to the online gaming experience.

Complete with over 85 games featuring state-of-the-art graphics (powered by PlayTech software,) a knowledgeable and helpful 24/7 phone and live chat support team, fast payouts, and a payout rate of over 97%, Hi-Roller is THE PLACE to be!

Come grab your $888 Welcome Bonus today! http://xedbex.com/d1/super/

*****************************************
Created: 2006-07-16 ! again the old sheme, just a few days before the spamming starts the domain was registered....

Laurent, you told us Casino Partners cut ties with this "agency"...
Close this and all the other affiliate accounts for sending spam!!!
If you can't find all the accociated affiliate accounts I just post them here again:

vegas1, vegas2, vegas3, vegas4, vegas5, vegas6, vegas7, vegas8, vegas9 vegas10, vegas11, vegas12, vegas13, vegas14, vegas15, vegas16, vegas17, vegas18, vegas19, vegas20, vegas21, vegas22, vegas23, vegas24, vegas25, vegas30, vegas31, vegas32, vegas33, vegas34, vegas35, vegas36, vegas37, vegas38, vegas39 vegas40, vegas43, vegas45, vegas46, vegas47, vegas48, vegas49, vegas50, vegas51, vegas52, vegas53, vegas54, vegas55, vegas56, vegas57, vegas58, vegas59, vegas60, vegas61, vegas62, vegas63, vegas64, vegas65, vegas66, vegas67, vegas68, vegas69, vegas70, vegas71
momo1, momo2, momo3, momo4, momo5
vjmed

check out my last post here to discover who really is behind this so called "advertising agency":
http://gamblingguards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113

are you trying to tell that you guys working over years with an marketing agency what is using absolutly illegally methods?
-like hiding their true identity,
-modifying header informations and stuff,
-sending e-mails using hijacked computers and
-hosting sites on hijacked servers?
-Registering hundreds of domains within days, using fake registration informations for those domains like:

-Central Intelligence Agency
-United States Agency for International Development
-Environmental Protection Agency
-Food Standards Agency
-Radiocommunications Agency
-Air Fresh Technologies
-Slando Investment
-Soronte Vine Shop
-African Souvenir Store
-African and Asian Accessories
-Saltero Pizza
-fashist
just to name a few out of a few hundred...

OK, you said CP cut ties with this company, do you mind revealing the name and information on this so called "advertising agency"? Maybe some guys are interested to get them known, allone the modified e-mail headers are a serios crime.... just not to think about using open relays to send their spam e-mails and hosting their sites on hijacked servers....

This "advertising agency" is not really an real agency... isn't it?

I just post a part of my post here, you can read the full story here:
http://gamblingguards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113

Quote:
......Now, this guys there are no rookys when it comes to spam, they ping the servers, trace the IP's and doing all kinds of stuff to discover things... Then they monitor the servers and providers.... First they go the usual way, contacting the providers and registrars and stuff, but in cases like this it not really works...

Pretty fast was clear that this Hi Roller Spam had his point of orgin probably at the top 3 of the worlds worst spammers: Alex Blood, Michael Lindsay and Leo Kuvayev.... Thats basicly the creme dela creme of the internationally spam business... read more about this guys at Spamhaus.org: http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/spammers.lasso

Here is how those guys shut down the Hi-Roller Casino Domains within hours....
They use a tool called .......

http://gamblingguards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113

What about all the other spam e-mails what are using another template of yours, (Casino Tropez) This e-mails are also still comming in!!! Did you guys just cut ties with the "advertising agency" for the english speaking contrys?
I mean It shure looks this way if I now get the same e-mails, same messages, same advertisements only to my .de e-mail adresses all in german??? Is this some kind of tactic to use .com domains for the english laguage market and .info domains for the german market?
http://gamblingguards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124


Quote:
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Affiliate ID: omega

If you download the software you download it from a seperate domain: qqcapol.info
Both domains are registered at the same time like all the hundred other ones,
qqcapol.info 19-Jun-2006
greentable-de.info 19-Jun-2006

both are registered to:
Registrant Name: Private Person Private Person
Registrant Organization: Private Person
Registrant Street1:Post Office Box 301763

The following domains I discovered doing a reverse IP check, all are setup the same using the "green table" template (Casino Tropez)

3,804 Domains for 221.206.5.51 (Greentable-de.info)
Most of this 3.800 domains are setup for selling fake luxury watches, another spam business I myself and a few million other internet users receive advertising e-mails for almost daily.... but on this server are also setup a few domains for green table casino (Casino Tropez):

casincasa.info Created On:26-Apr-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
cazinoplay.info Created On:23-Jun-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
greenplay.info Created On:02-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
game-star.info Created On:10-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: omega
casino-greentable.info Created On:13-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
casino-grtable.info Created On:13-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
all of the domains download the software from casincasa.info

some of this domains were also used already back in may for spamming, mostly in the german market.... I don't think I need to post all the info when and how they were spammed here too, it should be enough to get the picture....

The spamming for Vegas Red stopped about three days ago, now it seems to start again....

Actually in my opinion it didn't really stop, there were just different e-mail lists used and the amount of emails sent was decresed....

Laurent, it would be nice to get an honest explanation here!

[winbig]

In my opinion, CP is making a fortune off of these spammers and are turning a blind eye to it, along with blowing smoke up our ass saying they've cancelled the affiliate accounts.

If the IP's from the spam headers weren't located all over the world, one would be inclined to think CP is behind this whole thing...unless of course they're using open proxies to connect to, and send this spam through insecure mail servers of course....

[edit]Just read the one at CAP...interesting:

I have catch-all email addresses, so I get one for each 'user' they configure for whatever auto-craptastic software they are using.

Here are examples: administrator, webmaster, sales, info, test, root, advertising, postmaster, support, service, mail, guest, accounts,home

I wonder when large businesses are going to get fed up with this and bring a civil suit against CP for allowing this to continue...ie: Wasted bw, etc. It's been done before. AOL vs. Cyber Entertainment Networks, back in 2001.

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-250487.html

"Legally the lawsuit is important because it establishes liability for an adult Web site--that they are causing spam to be sent or are knowingly in a conspiracy with the spammers. This makes them negligent in their no-spam policy," said Nicholas Graham, an AOL spokesman.

CP's spam policy:

Please remember that neither we, nor our ISP, tolerate spam of any kind. Any affiliate caught spamming will be placed on probation from the affiliate programs and all earnings will be void.

Seems pretty negligent to me.

[Andreas]

exactly..., if they would have cancelled this affiliate accounts then we wouldn't have today again spam mails with new domains and the same affiliate accounts we had for the last two months...

[unicorn40]

I'm still getting this crap too.....