Statement From eCOGRA Regarding Jackpot Factory

[caruso]

Once all is said and done, I cannot help but say that I personally would still be extremely reluctant (to say the least) to play at any of the Jackpot Factory casinos.

You would consider playing at Jackpot Factory casinos, in spite of all this?

Are any of our merry band of affiliates still carrying them? Kudos again to Bryan Bailey from pulling them within hours of this issue breaking.

EDIT - Hmm, didn´t take more than a cursory search to answer my own question.

Simmo, any plans to pull statements like "...part of the respected Jackpot Factory group" any time soon?

I´m just curious, you being a mod a Casinomeister and all that.

[Scooter7]

You would consider playing at Jackpot Factory casinos, in spite of all this?

Everyone in the online gaming community will determine the fate of the JF group collectively by their actions or inactions.

My action was to post on the forum after being a lurker for a long time. I felt like I had something important to say and I got it out there. Other people have closed their accounts, webmasters are removing banners; both actions hit the offending casinos on the bottom line.

If there is enough outrage and it reaches enough ears, public 'input' can spur improvement in the best practices of the industry helping everyone that makes money from online casinos to make more money from higher levels of trust and service.

[largeeyes]

This reminds me of my bonus banning, followed by bonus offers in the post, followed by my tirade, followed by more bonus offers in the post. Poor JF.

[AussieDave]

I can't however say the same for the way they handled the 888 issue, and that in itself makes me concerned that they are not willing to act and might not be impartial when it comes to independant directors.

Well said Chatmaster

Whilst it's obvious that Ecogra has pulled all stops out to have this matter quickly addressed, I'm now questioning why 888 was not pounced on with the same tenacity.

The Board emphasises that it strongly condemns the nature and targeting of the Jackpot Factory SEO campaign which is contrary to eCOGRA’s eGAP and codes of best conduct.

How is the 888 case any different? It's not in my opinion. In fact it's far worse. Still the Board (Ecogra) takes no action.

I would welcome any further information which identifies the existence of similar content.

As long as it's not against an independant director's company (Cassava), then we'll just ignore it and do nothing, eh Andrew!

[Scooter7]

Well said Chatmaster

Whilst it's obvious that Ecogra has pulled all stops out to have this matter quickly addressed, I'm now questioning why 888 was not pounced on with the same tenacity.



How is the 888 case any different? It's not in my opinion. In fact it's far worse. Still the Board (Ecogra) takes no action.

The 888 issue is a different kind of bad. Theft is, in ice cream terms, very vanilla. It doesn't make it less wrong, but it's a lot less likely to rally people around a cause than the predatory actions of JF. Please don't shoot the messenger. I'd shut both of them down permanently if I could. No one will give online casinos the proper respect until all of the shady characters are driven out.

[RobWin]

The Jury is still out on this one.

[AussieDave]

the predatory actions of JF.

Huh!

Site scraping is just one aspect of the 888 (Cassava issue), the other is far worse than the FL case.

888 (Cassava) has and still turns a blind eye to predatory actions that it's directly or indirectly associated with. Be this by its rogue affiliates or by 888 itself. Targeting keywords that children may use imo is as predatory as one could get, is it not!

The FL issue got pulled into line very quickly, though the 888 issue that should receive as much attention from Ecogra as the FL fiasco has been allowed to simple continue.

Considering the implications, I'm left wondering why Ecogra seemed happy to throw JF to the lions but continues to shelter 888.

Would the same action have taken place if the JF founder held independent director status at Ecogra? 888 is a prime example based on Ecogra's actions, hence I'd have to say no.

Given the ongoing 888 shemozzle imo it's a feasible thought that in the case of Cassava and Ecogra there are two sets of rules at play here. I base this conclusion on these two cases which are inherently simular.

PS I'm not attempting to shoot the messanger, though, to me, it's imperative to address every case on the same grounds using the same yard stick.

[Simmo!]

Simmo, any plans to pull statements like "...part of the respected Jackpot Factory group" any time soon?

Ah Caruso - you crack me up Where would I be without you constantly checking my site I assume you meant the old Allslots review you found when you physically search on Allslots? Thought I'd removed everything but yes you're right...it was still there though a) not linked from anywhere unless you physically searched the term "allslots" and b) with a long paragraph about this whole affair. But I've now removed the word "reputable", but only because I think for the moment it's justified to do so (for what it's worth, I don't consider inadequte code release controls as disreputable if indeed that is the synopsis), if that makes you happier. Anyone would think you didn't like me - lol

Are any of our merry band of affiliates still carrying them?

Incidentally, one thing I've been meaning to ask you. As an afilliate yourself, I'm intrigued as to why you seem to be keen to be seen as disassociated in your posts?

[Cynthia777]

You would consider playing at Jackpot Factory casinos, in spite of all this?

OK...I'll be blunt in answering that question and veer away from my careful objective side for a moment - HELL NO!! I was disgraced by the content I did see in those campaigns (it did not take much for me to sum up the absolute filth involved).

What I meant was that in the event that some detailed explanation/statement, pointing out of only "certain" individuals involved in the scheme, whatever.. nothing JF could say, make statements about, etc. would earn my trust back again (sort of.. "If I were you..." type of thing) when I said "I would be extremely reluctant..."

But thank you, Caruso..you are very observant (needless to say ), and I respect your need for clarification in matters (blatant as it may be), but sometimes the best way to get answers...

[caruso]

Ah Caruso - you crack me up Where would I be without you constantly checking my site I assume you meant the old Allslots review you found when you physically search on Allslots?

No, I meant your WildJack entry. Page 6 or 7.

Hey Ted, if you keep sending me "negative reputation" every time I make a factual post, and I keep sending them back atcha, we´ll both end up at zero.