Mathematical Proof that English Harbour is cheating

[gfkostas]

Of course you need a huge sample to conclude if some games are rigged or not. A game can be rigged just a little bit to give the house an extra 3-4% and this can't be uncovered by just playing 100 times. In the case of video poker so far the resutls ain't good. I would give it a try myself if I knew how to play video poker properly

[tencardcharlie]

Originally Posted by gfkostas

Of course you need a huge sample to conclude if some games are rigged or not. A game can be rigged just a little bit to give the house an extra 3-4% and this can't be uncovered by just playing 100 times.:

Well, it obviously does not take a huge sample prove that this particular game is rigged.

Originally Posted by gfkostas

In the case of video poker so far the resutls ain't good. I would give it a try myself if I knew how to play video poker properly

Hehe.. you don't have to be able to play vido poker properly to try out the doubling feature. Just double every time you win.

[dirk_dangerous]

Lawnet, you should contact the Wizard of Odds with your results. If he agrees, this problem will get more attention.

Cheating by Odds On does not surprise me.

And yes, if the double down feature is not 50/50, the game is cheating.

[largeeyes]

Originally Posted by liquidsoap

Ok hold on your guys are complaining that the Video poker is fixed right???
Seriously listen a fair doubling game should be even right?
Ok heads or tails susposivley susposed to be 50:50
It can come up heads a million times in a row, would that be fixed???
I am not about to get heated about you guys so called "cheating games"
why would a casino need to cheat anyway...
With people like you guys playing a game thats ran cold they are problem running to the bank


I am heading here right now to add my 2 cents, but IMO If a software is rigged, dont complain about it stop playing it!

Liquid, I have respected your posts for a long time but your posts to this thread border on insanity. Sure, a coinc ould come up a million times in a row. And yes, it would have to be fixed. Just having 1000 in a row would be a 1 in 1X10^301 event. Imagine that happening twice in a row. I think you're at the level of the number of neutrons+protons+electrons in the universe at that point. I don't think the complaint is that VP is fixed, but the doubling section is.

[Achenar]

ok someone tell me what random means?
Random mean it done with algorithm algorithm is done with a set on instructions.so that tell me all.Also that sya it can be perdictable.so random or randomly isnt what people think it is.

[MarcyW]

Wow, lots of good posts here. I have never played these casinos but I love video poker so I'll be staying away. Thanks OP!

[jsp377]

Originally Posted by Achenar

ok someone tell me what random means?
Random mean it done with algorithm algorithm is done with a set on instructions.so that tell me all.Also that sya it can be perdictable.so random or randomly isnt what people think it is.

It's close enough to random that there's no measurable difference. Yes, algorithms are deterministic, but you can structure them so that their behavior may as well be considered random. See the code at this link, specifically rng.c, to see just one way of how it's done in C. The mathematical reasoning behind it can be found here (warning: pdf).

EDIT: I should also thank the OP. Excellent post, thanks for making us all aware.

[dresden]

I wanted to be a team player and add a real-money trial. I deposited $50 and hit a royal playing Tens or Better at $2.50 a pop. No joke. I kind of lost track after that....

[Linus]

I hope you didn't double it.(!)

So that was, what, a $2000 win?

Congratulations.

(Goes to show karma works.)

[dresden]

Thanks Linus. Yep, $2000. That allegedly-cheating doubling button was calling me, blink blink blinking away there...but I declined.

Sorry to derail the topic. Back to the matter at hand....