Mathematical Proof that English Harbour is cheating

[liquidsoap]

Ok hold on your guys are complaining that the Video poker is fixed right???
Seriously listen a fair doubling game should be even right?
Ok heads or tails susposivley susposed to be 50:50
It can come up heads a million times in a row, would that be fixed???
I am not about to get heated about you guys so called "cheating games"
why would a casino need to cheat anyway...
With people like you guys playing a game thats ran cold they are problem running to the bank


I am heading here right now to add my 2 cents, but IMO If a software is rigged, dont complain about it stop playing it!

[liquidsoap]

Originally Posted by TeddyFSB

Dude, that is so clueless. OP's results are way enough to show it's not a 50-50 game.

Like I said in my last post niether is heads or tails, Flip a coin 100 times gaurentee you dont get 50:50 once

[liquidsoap]

To the trails, trying to double 1000 times, will be back with a word document of my progress!

[liquidsoap]

HMMMMMMM.....

As much as I hate to admit it this is going to take long and is not going as expected

[jsp377]

Originally Posted by liquidsoap

Like I said in my last post niether is heads or tails, Flip a coin 100 times gaurentee you dont get 50:50 once

I'm not sure what this means. Do you mean that if we flip a coin 100 times, we'll never get half head and half tail? Or if we flip a coin a hundred times once, we won't get exactly 50 heads and 50 tails (actual probability: .0796)?

And as for your other comment, yes, if somebody flipped a coin a million times and it came up heads every time, I would accuse them of fixing it and, depending on whether there were money riding on the game or not, punch the person in the mouth.

And he wasn't complaining, he was WARNING people like you not to play a rigged vp doubling game. A thousand times.

[tronk]

saw this thread and thought i would give it a try. if they were going to delibrately cheat though, you would think they would make the free play fair.

my results: win: 22

draw: 6

lose: 42

[liquidsoap]

Well I am changing position on this, I am too lazy to do 1000 trials but I got 200 doubles out of it, all I can say is 50:50 my ass

Position before the trail, disbeliefer
Position after, neutral

Trails
0-100 30 -Win 64 -Lose 6 -Tie
101-200 33 -Win 62 -Lose 5 -Tie

I am taking no sides now, That is my results I got for each of the 100 trails I took.

K, I was wrong enough said

By the way, people dont plan on doing alot of trials unless you are serouisly in it for the long haul it took 45 minutes to do 200 on speed deal...

I am keeping my mouth shut I wish you Thelawnnet and supporters the best of luck, in your pursuit whatever it may be

[tronk]

already there have been about half a dozen small samples. All these short term trials will add up.

btw it would at least be encouraging to get a result that shows a positive win count.

[liquidsoap]

Originally Posted by jsp377

I'm not sure what this means. Do you mean that if we flip a coin 100 times, we'll never get half head and half tail? Or if we flip a coin a hundred times once, we won't get exactly 50 heads and 50 tails (actual probability: .0796)?

And as for your other comment, yes, if somebody flipped a coin a million times and it came up heads every time, I would accuse them of fixing it and, depending on whether there were money riding on the game or not, punch the person in the mouth.

And he wasn't complaining, he was WARNING people like you not to play a rigged vp doubling game. A thousand times.

You no what i meant, better not punch that guy in the face. Its kasino king always finding a way to beet the odds.....

[tencardcharlie]

I have now also run an experiment to test if the doubling at english harbour is fair. I have done the test in play money mode, Jacks and better single hand.

My results are: 37 wins, and 100 losses. According to my calculations this is almost an -5.4 standard deviation event if the game had been fair. The conclusion is the therefore the same as thelawnets':

The dubling feature at english harbour is not fair.

However, I have also done a similar experiment at fire and ice casino with a result of 55 wins and 59 losses, which of course is not unormal. My conclusion of from that experiment is therefore:

It has not been shown that the doubling feature at Ice and fire casino is not fair.

Is seems like different casinos using the same software can deal different games. It would be good if others would like to duplicate the experiments to try out different casinos using thje same software.