Main Street Group confusing terms!

[vinylweatherman]

I have just sent a PM to Summer Blair (Main street rep), as this issue of the disolved company named as handling transactions needs urgent attention as this looks bad for the casinos.
I believe this is probably a case of failure to keep the websites up to date, and is unlikely to be related to the issue of the 5% fees.
As this is the weekend, Summer may not be able to comment till Monday.
Bryan has a lot of catching up to do, and I am sure will get involved should it prove neccessary.

It might be worth checking the company records to see if a reason for the entry "dissolved" can be found, it is not always the case that a dissolved company has gone bust, or been closed by the authorities. It can be simply a corporate manouever, such as to minimise tax, create losses against taxes, or a takeover by another company.

[CROGO]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

I have just sent a PM to Summer Blair (Main street rep), as this issue of the disolved company named as handling transactions needs urgent attention as this looks bad for the casinos.

Well, gee, its only been over six months now. How urgent can it be for Mainstreet to fix this? Obviously, its not very important to them. Talk is cheap and deeds are precious. Uh, but VWman keeps omitting that Mainstreet group is also falsely advertising who owns the casinos as well. False advertising and other misrepresentations are part of the pattern of deceit here. People are getting fooled here into thinking these are UK casinos and wagering in GB pounds is OK, and it really isn’t. Where are Mainstreet’s servers? I don’t see it listed on their websites. I don’t think they are really in the UK if they are processing all of the payments in US dollars!

I believe this is probably a case of failure to keep the websites up to date, and is unlikely to be related to the issue of the 5% fees.

Opinions are like bellybuttons. Everyone has one, but I strongly disagree. My problem here is that Mainstreet failed to disclose its bizarre policies of charging commissions on withdrawals. Even after they admitted they were wrong and edited their webpages, they still continued to falsely advertise related matters regarding how the payments are processed on the six casinos listed:
http://www.diamonddealcasino.com/aboutus.php
http://lasvegasusacasino.com/about_us.php
http://www.sunpalacecasino.com/support.html
http://www.twinacescasino.com/faq.php
http://www.slots.com/support.html
http://www.vegascasinoonline.com/faq.php

Again, actions speak louder than words, and I still haven’t been paid in full.

But for them to advertise as “Mainstreet Vegas ltd. registered in the UK”, and that they are owned by another UK company that process the financial transactions, AND THEN to selectively charge an undisclosed 5% commission for withdrawals in GB pounds is truly scandalous. The last time I checked those colourful pieces of paper with the Queen’s picture on them where the legal currency of the UK. This is outrageous!

I want to know to whom can I complain to about this nonsense in the UK?

The people on the new UK gaming commission should know about Mainstreet’s practices when considering them for licensing.

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by CROGO

But for them to advertise as “Mainstreet Vegas ltd. registered in the UK”, and that they are owned by another UK company that process the financial transactions, AND THEN to selectively charge an undisclosed 5% commission for withdrawals in GB pounds is truly scandalous. The last time I checked those colourful pieces of paper with the Queen’s picture on them where the legal currency of the UK. This is outrageous!

MAIN STREET VEGAS, LIMITED
WILKES PARTNERSHIP
41 CHURCH STREET
BIRMINGHAM
ENGLAND, B3 2RT
Company No. 04491288

Status: Dissolved 20/04/2004
This is getting dodgier and dodgier.

[vinylweatherman]

Because this is a listed UK company, you can make a complaint to Trading Standards. I would suggest to the branch that deals with the registered address of the now defunct company. It does not matter if a non-UK national is being ripped off, they will take an interest as it is a UK registered comany doing the ripping off. Trading Standards could ask the company to show evidence that it really does cost them 5% to deal with the currency movements, since this is how the charge has been explained. Finding where the servers are is not too hard to do with the right software, although this really should be available to players as a matter of course. I doubt they are in the UK as there is no licencing structure as yet.
I must admit I am a little puzzled that a UK company has to charge 5% to receive and pay in UK Currency, as they must surely have some UK£ denominated liquid assets to handle UK players.

This may well be a case of "rules is rules" by the casino, with out regard to individual circumstances. In the long run, this attitude will mean they will not attract all the players who are willing to gamble. I note that already it seems that being unable to Drive and travel abroad can seriously affect a players ability to get paid, but what the **** has being unfit/unable to drive or travel got to do with fitness to gamble! I have even found some MG casinos where you can't even register without a drivers licence or passport, as nothing else will do.

My Father has gambled all his adult life on the horses, but as a non driver and not having a passport, could not use the internet to place bets as he would not find it easy getting paid.

I have made a cash-out from Diamond Deal, in UK£, and no fees have been charged as yet, and it was to Neteller within a couple of days for the deposit refund. This has to be a case of where one lives, rather than anything to do with currency alone.

[CROGO]

Originally Posted by GrandMaster

MAIN STREET VEGAS, LIMITED
WILKES PARTNERSHIP
41 CHURCH STREET
BIRMINGHAM
ENGLAND, B3 2RT
Company No. 04491288

Status: Dissolved 20/04/2004
This is getting dodgier and dodgier.

Indeed!
The plot thickens:
“Please notice: Our Company is MainstreetVegas ltd. registered in the UK. All of our transactions use SSL security layer for added security.”
http://lasvegasusacasino.com/banking.php
http://www.twinacescasino.com/banking.php
http://www.slots.com/banking.html
http://www.vegascasinoonline.com/banking.php

“Please notice Main Street Vegas co. of Birmingham, UK, is the cashier company acting on behalf of Diamond Deal Casino of Costa Rica. Our transactions use SSL security layer for added security.”
http://www.diamonddealcasino.com/cashier.php

This company has been dissolved for over 2 years now!

The deceit here runs deeper than I thought!

[CROGO]

Here's another one:
“Financial transactions are processed through RX Advertising Limited, 48 Bedford Road, Ruislip, Middlesex, HA4 6NA, UK; owner of this casino. Your Statement will show as: FESTIVEBINGO.COM // Birmingham”:
http://www.festivebingo.com/cashier.htm

[big_mac]

Just thought that I would mention that to trade or do business using the term 'limited', when you are not duly incorporated with limited liability is a criminal offence in the UK.

[The Watchdog]

Only because the processing company that a casino uses for credit cards is stablished in the UK it doesn't mean that they are.

Check neteller for example, when you use your credit card with them, the processing company might... once again "MIGHT" not be located in Canada.

It is the most common thing that an online gambling operation changes their processing companies from time to time. So if you see that a company was dissolved, it doesn't mean that the actual casino is making fraud or something. Only that they are no longer making business with that processing company.

Instead of keep complaining... have you pm the Casinomeister? or Contact the Mainstreet group againg through the chat? I guarantee you they will do their best to help you out and bring this to an end.

By the way?? of how much money are we talking here? $500 or $15??

[CROGO]

I am amazed that some people online post replies without ever reading, or understanding, what has previously been posted.

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

Only because the processing company that a casino uses for credit cards is stablished in the UK it doesn't mean that they are.

(Ignoring the spelling, grammar and syntax here…) To quote Bill Clinton, “It depends what the definition of “is” is.” Very plainly, Mainstreet’s representations
1) That “Our Company is MainstreetVegas ltd. registered in the UK.”. and
2) that “Financial transactions are processed through RX Advertising Limited, 48 Bedford Road, Ruislip, Middlesex, HA4 6NA, UK; owner of this casino.”,
previously cited with weblinks to the various casinos, ARE NOT TRUE!
THE COMPANIES LISTED ON THE MAINSTREET CASINOS DO NOT EXIST!


As Big Mac stated, this appears to be a crime in the UK. (But just a small technicality to those in Costa Rica.) Obviously, Mainstreet has been deceiving players into depositing based upon FALSE STATEMENTS.

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

Check neteller for example, when you use your credit card with them, the processing company might... once again "MIGHT" not be located in Canada.

Neither Neteller, nor Canada have any possible relevance to anything here.

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

It is the most common thing that an online gambling operation changes their processing companies from time to time.

1) If an online casino advertises it is using a UK processing company for financial transactions, and names the company to induce players to deposit money and play in the casino, that company should in fact exist, and be lawfully incorporated. Since they advertised the processing as such, they had an obligation to correct the advertising once they changed companies. (Again this is a small technicality to those in Costa Rica.)
This is even more important here because the processing company is also advertised as the “owner of this casino”. This statement is also false. (And again, this fact was missed by the poster from Costa Rica.)

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

So if you see that a company was dissolved, it doesn't mean that the actual casino is making fraud or something.

When an online casino advertises that it is “Mainstreet Vegas ltd. registered in the UK” and
1) that company no longer exists, and was in fact dissolved,
2) it is a criminal offense in the UK do conduct business as a Limited, (Ltd.) compay, when not lawfully incorporated and registered as such,

then the “fraud” word needs to be seriously considered when referring to its operations.

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

Only that they are no longer making business with that processing company.

Very insightful! Since the processing company no longer legally exists, it obviously can no longer conduct business or own the casino. I suspect that a new processing company was formed that now owns these casinos. Since Mainstreet falsely advertised, likely illegally in the UK, a defunct company as owning it and processing financial transactions, perhaps they will tell us who really owns them now? I won’t hold my breath waiting for these ROGUES!!!

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

Instead of keep complaining... have you pm the Casinomeister?

Not yet, because I was instructed to contact the Mainstreet rep here first.

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

or Contact the Mainstreet group againg through the chat? I guarantee you they will do their best to help you out and bring this to an end.

Uhhh.. if you had read my previous posts, you would find Mainstreet’s refusal to make full payment posted. I really don’t take kindly to them trying to water my leg and then say “its raining!” No, its not raining here. Its now over six months and this is getting very stale.

Originally Posted by The Watchdog

By the way?? of how much money are we talking here? $500 or $15??

Uhhh.. if you had read my previous posts, you find the exact figures. But for a small amount of money they have caused themselves a large problem. This should tell you something about the management here. The GrandMaster has filled in the missing information to expose Mainstreet’s false advertising here.

Was it worth if Mainstreet?

Why is Mainstreet on the approved list here instead of in the Rogue pit?

[CROGO]

You know, when a casino claims that a player commits fraud they lock the account and void all winnings.

Soooo….If a casino commits fraud by violating the UK law on registering companies, illegally using “Ltd.” when not properly registered as such, and other false statements and misrepresentations, AND Neteller is a UK company subject to UK law…

THEN DOESN’T THAT MEAN THAT EVERY PLAYER WHO WAS DECEIVED INTO WAGERING AT THOSE CASINOS CAN NOW CLAIM FRAUD AND DEMAND THE REPAYMENT OF ALL LOST WAGERS FROM NETELLER?

Maybe those people who have lost money at the Mainstreet casinos should visit the links posted and take screen shots before they get changed:
“Financial transactions are processed through RX Advertising Limited, 48 Bedford Road, Ruislip, Middlesex, HA4 6NA, UK; owner of this casino. Your Statement will show as: FESTIVEBINGO.COM // Birmingham”:
http://www.festivebingo.com/cashier.htm
http://www.diamonddealcasino.com/aboutus.php
http://lasvegasusacasino.com/about_us.php
http://www.sunpalacecasino.com/support.html
http://www.twinacescasino.com/faq.php
http://www.slots.com/support.html
http://www.vegascasinoonline.com/faq.php

“Please notice: Our Company is MainstreetVegas ltd. registered in the UK. All of our transactions use SSL security layer for added security.”
http://lasvegasusacasino.com/banking.php
http://www.twinacescasino.com/banking.php
http://www.slots.com/banking.html
http://www.vegascasinoonline.com/banking.php

“Please notice Main Street Vegas co. of Birmingham, UK, is the cashier company acting on behalf of Diamond Deal Casino of Costa Rica. Our transactions use SSL security layer for added security.”
http://www.diamonddealcasino.com/cashier.php