Ladbrokes casino, cant believe what ive just seen

**scrollock** · 23rd April 2006, 06:18 AM

ive had to go back and play this,(basiclly i was playing for a bonus and only have bomus left now}

BUT anyone who has played these games, tell me it is not my imagination that you are on a table of your own,next thing girl plays with her hair and her tits then hits a 5/6 card 21 after waiting a minute.

they do this about once every 20 hands, which makes it a 5% house edge at least

**winbig** · 23rd April 2006, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by scrollock

ive had to go back and play this,(basiclly i was playing for a bonus and only have bomus left now}

BUT anyone who has played these games, tell me it is not my imagination that you are on a table of your own,next thing girl plays with her hair and her tits then hits a 5/6 card 21 after waiting a minute.

they do this about once every 20 hands, which makes it a 5% house edge at least

LOL

I can't recall if they only did this on certain hands, but I know they can, and will, do everything in their power to throw you off your game. They'll play with everything besides the BJ hand, talk to the other dealers, etc. while making you sit there and twiddle your thumbs waiting for them to continue the game. This is the sole reason I quit playing "live" BJ.

**gfkostas** · 23rd April 2006, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by winbig72

I think if there was a way to find out what the actual rate you're getting, it'd shed a light on things. That, along with dropped packets along the way, retransmits, etc, could be the reasons behind it.

edit: Chances are it's true they're a shady company, so in prepreation for complaints, they've got the crappiest connection they could find so they can blame it on the network.

As a youngster I used to log in to many sites with online live feeds and even though their content was objectionable

they always used to have the bitrate of the stream on display and the quality was amazing

. Later on as I expanded my knowledge on computers I discovered certain programs that let me know whats the bitrate of any live video. I have yet to try it but am certain that their video has a low bitrate hence the less than crystal clear quality especially when we consider that it comes from a casino. As it is now it ain't no 'live'

**scrollock** · 26th June 2006, 07:48 AM

forgot about this, but if anyone is interested, the outcome of this was

ladbrokes "had lost the footage of this hand"

and as regular customer had "given me the benefit of the doubt"

and had "awarded me the winnings of the hand as a good will gesture!"

**sweetdenny** · 27th June 2006, 09:48 PM

Hi scrollock just read that ladbrokes had told you that they had lost the footage. I also had a problem with the new live dealer software and was told by them that the third party didnt actually keep logs of chat. I only found thi sout after escalating it as high as i could. The fact that they said they lost the footage is shocking could it be that they never actually had the footage. I would not accept this reasoning from the personally.

**A23456789TJQK** · 29th June 2006, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by scrollock

got dealt a 10 v 10, dealer then goes into shoe and pulls out a card which shes turn side onto to me

I don't quite understand what you are trying to say

**scrollock** · 29th June 2006, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by sweetdenny

Hi scrollock just read that ladbrokes had told you that they had lost the footage. I also had a problem with the new live dealer software and was told by them that the third party didnt actually keep logs of chat. I only found thi sout after escalating it as high as i could. The fact that they said they lost the footage is shocking could it be that they never actually had the footage. I would not accept this reasoning from the personally.

sweetdenny, i use to work for a uk bookmaker, and this is a standard excuse for when they have investigated and found that your complaint is 100% correct. the lost "footage", "records" etc is their way of being able to pay you without admitting liability.

could you imagine the uproar on this forum if ladbrokes had written back and said "yes we have investigated your complaint and you are correct our third party live dealer source is actively engaged in cheating"

**aodat2** · 29th June 2006, 06:48 PM

Here's my 2cents.

At the end of the day, Ladbrokes is still a company. What does companies care about most of the time? Well... it doesn't really take a genius to figure out, of coz, they care about the $$$. All the "dollars" and "cents" that is associated.

Ladbrokes is no different. What does ethics and fairness has to do with anything? It's all still comes down to MONEY. The more they could earn from you is the better they are.

So, in this case, no matter what the outcome might be, Ladbrokes will of course, 100% surely take care of themselves 1st, then you.

Cheating or not, I'm not sure but I am sure about 1 thing. The "live" dealer site earns from the players' loss. Each time we lose real money, they win some, the casino wins some.

**nikest** · 14th July 2006, 07:19 PM

i have played couple times at casinowebcam and after playing some sessions, i was sure that there is something fishy. i have spent a reasonable time in land casinos and i knew that live casino on internet is just a scam . nothing live there. thats what i feel. and i will not doubt about this thread. ofcourse something is going wrong there.