Ladbrokes Games - LOTR Slot - wager £50 for £50 Bonus

[Seventh777]

Let me get this straight... Ladbrokes changes the rules (which is clearly stated in their T&C`s), so now there is a massive x1 playthrough on the bonus!!!!! wow.

A few aspects of Ladbrokes....

1). When you have a decent payout, there is still a great chance you can deposit and have a good payout again (had 3 consecutive withdrawals lately).

2). The one time I had a bad spell of deposits was during a 25% cashback bonus, which I received £80+ 100% cash back, turned this into more and withdrew.

3). In comparison I have made numerous deposits at Dash, Nedplay, Golden Lounge, and on no more than 3-5 occasions have I managed to raise my balance above what I started with, in response to my many gripes at their CS agents I am duly replied to with `Sorry there`s nothing we can do/offer you atm` which roughly translated means `Whilst you are still way in the black with your deposits/withdrawal ratios at 32Red`.


Go figure, ofc these sort of scenarios mean nothing when handing out awards etc

[topoor]

There was always a "massive" 1x play through on the bonus - the issue is that ladbrokes changed the rules after players had qualified.

It doesnt matter whether the changes are massive or minor, players should be able to trust a casino. Terms and conditions either matter or they dont. The amount of players on this forum that have lost out on big payouts due to not sticking to terms is rather large and for the rules no matter how trivial they may seem to suddenly not be enforceable because a casino decides they dont want them to be is completely unacceptable.

The moment we allow a casino to have one set of rules for itself and another for a player is the day we should hand them our ATM cards and just let them take every cent we own.

[vinylweatherman]

There was always a "massive" 1x play through on the bonus - the issue is that ladbrokes changed the rules after players had qualified.

It doesnt matter whether the changes are massive or minor, players should be able to trust a casino. Terms and conditions either matter or they dont. The amount of players on this forum that have lost out on big payouts due to not sticking to terms is rather large and for the rules no matter how trivial they may seem to suddenly not be enforceable because a casino decides they dont want them to be is completely unacceptable.

The moment we allow a casino to have one set of rules for itself and another for a player is the day we should hand them our ATM cards and just let them take every cent we own.

That's why you should PAB, as well as take their £45 by playing through 1x on LOTR just to humour them. It's NOT about getting paid, it is about pulling a "spirit of the bonus" stunt right under CM's nose, and thinking this, and retrospective changes to terms, is OK for an accredited casino.

This needs to be nipped in the bud, and Ladbrokes told to write proper terms to start with, NOT resort to "spirit of the bonus" rules because they were too lazy to write a proper set of terms from the outset.

From a PLAYERS' point of view, the "spirit" was obvious - to take the free £45 on offer

[Nifty29]

Retroactive changes to terms is UNACCEPTABLE.

I think you'll find CM agrees....and this is before we even GET to the spirit of the bonus nonsense.

I used to think the spirit of the bonus was all that was left after losing it....

[spiderlegz]

AFAIK the bonus was non cashable in an untraditional way. You got 50 and played it trough and the winnings derived from the wagering was withdrawable. Basically 50 worth of "free spins".

[topoor]

No, it was a £50 account credit that had to be wagered once on any game to be made withdrawable.

[doomed4ever]

Let me get this straight... Ladbrokes changes the rules (which is clearly stated in their T&C`s), so now there is a massive x1 playthrough on the bonus!!!!! wow.

A few aspects of Ladbrokes....

1). When you have a decent payout, there is still a great chance you can deposit and have a good payout again (had 3 consecutive withdrawals lately).

2). The one time I had a bad spell of deposits was during a 25% cashback bonus, which I received £80+ 100% cash back, turned this into more and withdrew.

3). In comparison I have made numerous deposits at Dash, Nedplay, Golden Lounge, and on no more than 3-5 occasions have I managed to raise my balance above what I started with, in response to my many gripes at their CS agents I am duly replied to with `Sorry there`s nothing we can do/offer you atm` which roughly translated means `Whilst you are still way in the black with your deposits/withdrawal ratios at 32Red`.


Go figure, ofc these sort of scenarios mean nothing when handing out awards etc

For neteller deposits it was not 1x playthough but an insane 20x even before you get the bonus. Woe unto those who bust out before even being able to wager 20times there deposit. Hence it be a gamble on a gamble to even get the bonus. For some reason they let me have mine after I explained that when playing I could not get to 20x playthough as my balence went quickly to zero.

[GrandMaster]

For neteller deposits it was not 1x playthough but an insane 20x even before you get the bonus. Woe unto those who bust out before even being able to wager 20times there deposit. Hence it be a gamble on a gamble to even get the bonus. For some reason they let me have mine after I explained that when playing I could not get to 20x playthough as my balence went quickly to zero.

Was it in the T&C that you had to reach the WR on a single deposit and could not deposit more?

[Nifty29]

Why is Neteller suddenly on the nose?

It used to be the ewallet of choice - I used to get EXTRA bonuses for using it, not I can hardly get one anywhere if I use it

English Harbour don't accept it at all - amazing.

I just received the best bonus Ive had in years from one of my fav casinos - 100% up to $100 with only 1x (yes thats one) Deposit+Bonus wagering with bonus fully cashable. Ummm...yes thanks!

[vinylweatherman]

AFAIK the bonus was non cashable in an untraditional way. You got 50 and played it trough and the winnings derived from the wagering was withdrawable. Basically 50 worth of "free spins".

I don't see anything like this in the posted terms and conditions. It just said it had to be played, rather than withdrawn.

As we know, and have been told, where no SPECIFIC terms are written about something, the GENERAL terms apply, therefore since there was no mention of anything other than the bonus had to be wagered, the GENERAL bonus terms would govern HOW it was to be wagered, and by how much.

This 1x on LOTR was the RETROSPECTIVE change they made, and didn't tell players until AFTER they had qualified for, and played, the bonus.

So, WHY didn't they simply credit 50 free spins on LOTR for a £50 deposit like any SENSIBLE MGS casino would have done, it would not have caused such problems, the "spirit" would be irrelevant, and it would have ended up BETTER for the casino since the winnings derived from the free spins would have had to be wagered according to bonus account rules.

How are players expected to figure out it is an "untraditional" bonus unless the quirky nature of it is EXPLICITLY stated in the terms. NONE of the arguments presented so far by Ladbrokes match what was actually written in the terms. NO-ONE with the bonus still in their account can even check the updated terms, so there is not even any PROOF that an update even existed.