mstrike1978 VS Club World Casino ($46,034.44)

[zebedy]

Why do people lie? There are logs that can definitively prove what happened.

Question: Say he deposited $100. He is down to $30 before he turns to blackjack. That also forfeits his $30?

Playing with a coupon/bonus that states slots only, yep the money is forfeited

[rockycatt]

because of the sum of money involved i wish this fella went private with this case

[Nifty29]

Mstrike - I really hope you learn from this mistake, it has cost you what might be your biggest win ever.

However, I dont believe for a minute it was a 'mistake' to go play BJ when you knew you were playing a slots coupon. As for not knowing where you were in regards to playthrough, you could have checked in the cashier or via live chat to make sure.

Please please please everyone.....READ the terms completely before you take any bonus. Dont learn the hard way like Mstrike.

[AussieDave]

if these BJ winnings are what feeds the slots winnings, then there is a problem.

And the other BIG problem is most people don't read the casino bonus terms.

Bonuses are not a bad thing; least not from legitimate & trustworthy casinos.
What does place them in a bad light are punters who don't read the T&C's associated to them.

Also correct me if I'm wrong...But when you enter a bonus code into the RTG cashier doesn't it display the allowed games as well as the games that are not allowed to be played? It does it for every RTG I've played.



Cheers



Dave

[uungy]

Hello, events did transpire as WinBig guessed:

While the hand count on Blackjack was relatively low, the winnings enabled mstrike to return to the slots and start hitting the bet max button.

By the way this win was not from a prize pool and so does not affect the jackpots available to our players.

From our terms and conditions:

6. All bonuses carry a wagering requirement that is to be completed on a specific selection of games. Any wagers made on games that are excluded from the wagering requirement before the wagering requirement is completed will result in the bonus and any winnings being void. The player must be aware of and accept these terms and conditions before playing the bonus.

I feel this is very clear and we would not take such extreme action without good reason.

Kind Regards
Tom

The winnigs didnt enable anything. from what it sounds to me the OP played on blackjack, but those winnings will be removed later.

I dont see the logic here, and the terms and conditions definately dont seem to agree to that. As I stated earlier the terms dont sound to me the way you interpret them, and logically the player gained nothing out of playing blackjack. Luck had it that he may have won a few hands ir whatever, but OP could have lost them just as much. all the winnings will be voided, but the slots wins should be paid

[uungy]

And the other BIG problem is most people don't read the casino bonus terms.

Bonuses are not a bad thing; least not from legitimate & trustworthy casinos.
What does place them in a bad light are punters who don't read the T&C's associated to them.

Also correct me if I'm wrong...But when you enter a bonus code into the RTG cashier doesn't it display the allowed games as well as the games that are not allowed to be played? It does it for every RTG I've played.



Cheers



Dave

It doesnt!

[AussieDave]

It doesnt!

It doesn't what? Show the allowed and disallowed games?

Still that doesn't dismiss the fact that the OP should have read the bonus terms. And that they knew they were playing with a slots only bonus.


Cheers



Dave

[uungy]

It doesn't what? Show the allowed and disallowed games?

Still that doesn't dismiss the fact that the OP should have read the bonus terms. And that they knew they were playing with a slots only bonus.


Cheers



Dave

Whats that to do with it?

The terms state from my understandings that the winnigs from those wagers will be removed.

Stick to the terms. So yes only those games should be played, but incase anything else happens, the terms state that they will be removed, and vthe rest should be paid out.

[Nifty29]

RTG coupons now display allowed and disallowed games after they are redeemed and have done for a little while now - you just click on "coupon details" in the banking tab....I assume blackjack would have been listed in the disallowed games.

@uungy - what do you mean by "the terms dont seem to agree to that" ?

Any wagers made on games that are excluded from the wagering requirement before the wagering requirement is completed will result in the bonus and any winnings being void.

Blackjack is excluded from the slots only coupon, therefore ANY wagers placed on BJ before the WR is met means everything except the deposit is void. I dont see any ambiguity there...?. The 'bonus and ANY winnings' is the important part here. Any wins after increasing your balance from BJ play are 'fruit of the poisonous tree'.

Also, are you serious in saying that playing blackjack instead of slots isnt an advantage to the player? If this were the case, BJ would be allowed on every bonus -but we all know it isnt. It is far easier to build up a decent bankroll on BJ than on slots, and the method of doing so to fund one's slot play has been around since bonuses were invented - its fine if you do it with your own money, but not with the casinos'.

In any case, the terms are clear and the casino has every right to invoke them, as unfortunate as it is for the player. It is the responsibility of the player to make sure they follow the rules...we are all adults here and it is unreasonable to put the casino in a bad light when they have done nothing wrong.

[uungy]

RTG coupons now display allowed and disallowed games after they are redeemed and have done for a little while now - you just click on "coupon details" in the banking tab....I assume blackjack would have been listed in the disallowed games.

@uungy - what do you mean by "the terms dont seem to agree to that" ?

Any wagers made on games that are excluded from the wagering requirement before the wagering requirement is completed will result in the bonus and any winnings being void.

Blackjack is excluded from the slots only coupon, therefore ANY wagers placed on BJ before the WR is met means everything except the deposit is void. I dont see any ambiguity there...?. The 'bonus and ANY winnings' is the important part here. Any wins after increasing your balance from BJ play are 'fruit of the poisonous tree'.

Also, are you serious in saying that playing blackjack instead of slots isnt an advantage to the player? If this were the case, BJ would be allowed on every bonus -but we all know it isnt. It is far easier to build up a decent bankroll on BJ than on slots, and the method of doing so to fund one's slot play has been around since bonuses were invented - its fine if you do it with your own money, but not with the casinos'.

In any case, the terms are clear and the casino has every right to invoke them, as unfortunate as it is for the player. It is the responsibility of the player to make sure they follow the rules...we are all adults here and it is unreasonable to put the casino in a bad light when they have done nothing wrong.

I explained earlier

To me it sounds as though only that wager is null and void, and all winnings won will be removed...............

It is absolutely no benefit to the player. You do not increase any chances, and the fact the casinos dont allow it mean nothing. Half of them havent got a clue what they are doing.

Building a bankroll, when all the winnings incurred will be forfeited give the player no gain whatsoever. It doesnt increase any chances and it doesnt put any benefit to the player.