GOLDEN PALACE

**lojo** · 5th November 2007, 08:07 PM

I looked back to see what he may have been talking about... it was the meltdown earlier this year. He must not know that fl was rogued for overreacting, that EVERY player who did not have a fraudulant account was paid by fortune lounge after the thieves were sorted - that they have changed their bonus terms to 'fairly' ban that sort of betting in the future, and that their representative still handles disputes here (although it may take him a few days to get back to you).

I have no idea why he thinks Grand Mondial don't pay, just bad info I guess.

**hakapuku** · 6th November 2007, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by lojo

Are you saying that Royal Vegas and Grand Mondial do not pay players? an you show us?

Don't you read this forum? There are 2 new threads: in one Royal Vegas refused to pay the winner 8000 euro because of the "wrong play style", in the second the player was refused winnings (1900 pounds) by Grand Mondial because he used the wrong currency (and he didn't take any bonus from the casino!!!). I can give you much more examples. Just read the forum sometimes.
Now, if you don't know, something very bad happened to some microgaming casinos recently. I mean their new policy which is called "wrong style of play". This awful tactics was started by Fortune Lounge. They invented it in the beginning of this year. Then it make a big scandal and Fortune Lounge retreated under the pressure from Ecogra and online gambling community. However, several months later something happened behind the curtains and Ecogra supported this absurd rule. Immediately after that Casino Rewards employed the same tactics, again supported by Ecogra. If you don't know what this new terms mean i will explain you shortly. When you play at the casino and win- this is what the can and will call a "wrong style of play". Be sure that if you play any style and any game and you lose- nobody will compensate the lost money to you. This rule is only applied to you if you win. Literally- it is wrong to win with the bonus at some microgaming casinos. Now, if they will not stop with this bullshit these microgaming casinos will be dead very soon. And it will be a deserved death.

**lojo** · 7th November 2007, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by hakapuku

Don't you read this forum? There are 2 new threads: in one Royal Vegas refused to pay the winner 8000 euro because of the "wrong play style", in the second the player was refused winnings (1900 pounds) by Grand Mondial because he used the wrong currency (and he didn't take any bonus from the casino!!!). I can give you much more examples. Just read the forum sometimes.
Now, if you don't know, something very bad happened to some microgaming casinos recently. I mean their new policy which is called "wrong style of play". This awful tactics was started by Fortune Lounge. They invented it in the beginning of this year. Then it make a big scandal and Fortune Lounge retreated under the pressure from Ecogra and online gambling community. However, several months later something happened behind the curtains and Ecogra supported this absurd rule. Immediately after that Casino Rewards employed the same tactics, again supported by Ecogra. If you don't know what this new terms mean i will explain you shortly. When you play at the casino and win- this is what the can and will call a "wrong style of play". Be sure that if you play any style and any game and you lose- nobody will compensate the lost money to you. This rule is only applied to you if you win. Literally- it is wrong to win with the bonus at some microgaming casinos. Now, if they will not stop with this bullshit these microgaming casinos will be dead very soon. And it will be a deserved death.

That's not exactly how it came down... you posted in that thread as well as I so you should know the history a little better? Fraud ring using a style of betting, regular bonus manipulators using the same style, all had accounts frozen/winnings confiscated - fl eventually paid all players who weren't frauds (no way to know if this was due to ecogra intervention - they may have done it anyway) then they changed their terms to include 'hedge betting' others have followed, bla bla, bla, it's just the state of the industry because of 'advantage' players.

The GM incident you mentioned... I don't think that's been resolved, I wouldn't jump to any conclusions, we only have a certain amount of info on the forum (assuming we are referring to the same incident) and the royal vegas... if the player was foul of terms, he broke the rules, period. I think it was in that thread that happygobrokey said <sic> "if you're intelligent enough to find a bonus, study or devise techniques to use it to your advantage, and smart enough to be able to find casinomeister.com... you should have been smart enough to read the rules."

I read the forum, we just have different opinions, hakapuku. the glory days are gone... and I missed them or I'd probably right in line with your opinion, but I'm not. Fair is fair.

**niklas** · 7th November 2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by cb666

I think the manager of GP kinda underestimated everything. I mean, come on... everyone can clear such a bonus +ev with their wager rules...,

Not me, I finished wagering at -$20

Didn't have any trouble getting the bonus credited nor getting a cashout.

**Gino** · 5th January 2008, 03:29 PM

HI?

I play with start bonus in golden palace and had no problems for cash out when met wagering requirements.

Gino

**tim5ny** · 7th January 2008, 04:04 PM

At least now I know they have the money to rent my advertising space below. Thanks for being foolish enough to deposit there!

Another one taken in by their "huge" bonus offers!

Poser... you seem to get caught up in it quite often. You seem to base your choices solely on bonus offers.

**Mario** · 15th January 2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by hakapuku

For me ,as a player, there are only 2 most important things: fair software and fast payouts of winnings. From this point of view, Golden Palace is a good casino and Royal Vegas and Grand Mondial are the bad ones.

Hi there Hakapuku,

It is concerns me extremely that you classify Grand Mondial as a bad casino in regards to your comments.

I beg to differ as we strive in always meeting and exceeding a players expectations and if you would please be so kind as to PM me with your details and I will gladly investigate to see that your comments is justified and if there is any irregularities that I can try and resolve these for you.

We are a reputable casino and by just looking through past post you will notice that we do not hide in regards to complaints and try at our very best to resolve these issues that anyone might have in good time.

So please do PM me with your details and I will take it from there.

Best regards
Mario

**Mario** · 15th January 2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by hakapuku

in the second the player was refused winnings (1900 pounds) by Grand Mondial because he used the wrong currency (and he didn't take any bonus from the casino!!!).

Hi there Hakapuka,

You did fail to mention that yes we did confiscate the winnings due to playing in the wrong currency which is clearly in the terms and conditions that it is not allowed but did you notice that all his deposits were refunded.

Clearly if we would be deceitful we would not refund a players deposits.

Best regards
Mario

**Zoozie** · 15th January 2008, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Mario

Clearly if we would be deceitful we would not refund a players deposits.

Have you refunded to players that also played in the wrong currency but lost their deposit in the casino?

**Mario** · 15th January 2008, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Zoozie

Have you refunded to players that also played in the wrong currency but lost their deposit in the casino?

That is correct and if there is anycases that is not resolved in this matter please get in contact with me via PM message with your account details and I will sort it out for you.

Best regards
Mario