Royalvegas confiscated 8000 Euros - fraudulent claim

[kauphy]

Good. Remind us if anything ever happens and you don't get paid. We want to remember to say - "You are full of it. Nothing like that ever happened to us. So we don't care if you don't get paid. How can we? We can never know the full story." Even though the full story is pretty well laid out in the Ts&Cs.

If I sound a bit catty it's because I was here for the wars in the early days. Oh it was grand. Casinos were giving away money. Can you imagine wagering requirements of 3 times bonus or 5 times bonus? It was amazing. Advantage players were everywhere.

There were more watchdogs too. Spearmaster, Joe Plumber, Booth at Got2Bet. Spearmaster was awesome in keeping the lid on the Microgamings. Jetset and Dom were there. Original Mary was a force by herself. Julie Sidwell at Gambling Grumbles was great. Michael Shackleford took down Casino Domain by himself and almost got himself sued in the process - well threatened anyway. But advantage players forced down fairness as well. They banded together and were extremely active. If you want, I can link some of those old threads and you can see for yourself.

And thats what you guys have to do. It doesn't matter who plays with a bonus and who doesn't. It doesn't matter if it is you or another player that doesn't get paid. You can't leave it all up to one watchdog. Stand behind your players and if one doesn't get paid - then all of you pitch a bitch. Not with CM - with the casino.

It isn't that hard. A casino takes a bet. A casino pays the winner.

Or don't band together. It's over for me. I won't be playing anymore. So it isn't any skin off my nose. But it was grand... once.... Up to you. Could be again.

Stanford.

PS - The reason FL is so nice for you now, is because a bunch of us pushed back very hard when they went to carry over wager requirements. Otherwise, it wouldn't be as nice.

Ha! You really think fortune lounge cares about you? I hate to burst your bubble, but they don't. They care about your money. And if you have been playing there for 6 years, you are obviously down. Maybe, just maybe, that is why they are so nice to you. Why don't you go over to Virtual and give them a try? I bet they would be the nicest people in the world to you, if you constantly dumped money to them for 6 years.

if ur going to play then your going to lose money. and duh is,nt that what most businesses r in it for the money. and no i don,t put alot of money in to the casino i,m a very low roller but they treat me well and i don,t see why everyone has a promble with me saying that. i,m sorrie for the guy but that does.nt mean i,m going to stop playing there would you if you liked the casino that was being talked about? and you did,nt burst anything so sorrie to disppoint you i,m a grown up and do not have my eyes closed to why casinos or any other businesses likes you anyone would if you gave them money. and no thank you to virtual.

p.s i take it you don,t gamble or give ur money to anyone right?

[gmblpdam]

if ur going to play then your going to lose money. and duh is,nt that what most businesses r in it for the money. and no i don,t put alot of money in to the casino i,m a very low roller but they treat me well and i don,t see why everyone has a promble with me saying that. i,m sorrie for the guy but that does.nt mean i,m going to stop playing there would you if you liked the casino that was being talked about? and you did,nt burst anything so sorrie to disppoint you i,m a grown up and do not have my eyes closed to why casinos or any other businesses likes you anyone would if you gave them money. and no thank you to virtual.

p.s i take it you don,t gamble or give ur money to anyone right?

No I take the money.

English classes.

[rampaco3]

Casinomeister and everyone. I say again. The casino never mentioned myltiple accounts. I don't have multiple accounts, no one used my computer this is all a complete lie invented by the Casino and Ecogra afterwards.


When I say after i mean: The casino sent two emails stating that the reason for the no pay is the game pattern, the way I played the Tri card poker they didn't like.

My intention was not even to take advantage of their bonuses, I played 200 a hand which was the max hand allowed all the way throughout the wagering and not just to build some balance and grind the bonus.

If I were a bonus chaser I would reduce the bet after I hit it big, this was not the case, I continued to play 200 a hand and could end even winnings more than 20,000 if I had luck with the straight flush and three of a kind.

I play like that in my online session and land casinos session, playing big.

I found out this is the only way for me to cashout otherwise I go bust and lose all the money.

The multiple accounts excuse came out of the blue from Ecogra.

They sent an email regarding identifer....

The casino didn't mentioned the Tri card pattern of play but accused me for having muyltiple accounts, Ecogra accepted their stance.

I know they haven't checked because I know the truth, there are no multiple accounts involved here.


Sending me two emails stating the reason is the unacceptible terms, saying if you play so and so it is bonus abuse but not limited to the so and so and we decided not to pay, then telling Ecogra the guy has multiple account is a big lie.

Reading the threads I can say that the casino is smart because he can hide the reasons for his stance claiming it is from security reason.

It is very easy to accuse someone he has multiple account and go home without your winnings.

If I had multiple accounts, am I stupid to win so much ? why not to win only 1000-2000 not to raise red flags, and as I told you I could have won double the amount if I had more luck playing 200 a hand each bet till the end

[Casinomeister]

Another case of player fraud I'm afraid - gee, I didn't see that coming

And for those of you who are so damn quick at jumping my shit, thanks for the support guys....NOT.

[summer59]

what kind of fraud was the case here?

[lojo]

What are some of these jokers thinking? Maybe new posters should have to read the rogue player section before posting a complaint and certainly before pitching a bitch.

[Casinomeister]

what kind of fraud was the case here?

He is connected to another player.

The thing is, it happens a lot. And I guess it's worth a shot to post a complaint like this in public hoping that the casino would cave in to blackmail - which this is.

I just wish that when fraudsters get caught, they would move on and do something else instead of wasting my time. I have plenty of real PABs to take care of; real players who have valid gripes.

The PABs are backed up since 28 September at the moment, and I need to focus on those and not this.

[Casinomeister]

What are some of these jokers thinking? Maybe new posters should have to read the rogue player section before posting a complaint and certainly before pitching a bitch.

A while back, I closed the complaints section down for newbie posters. They weren't allowed to start new threads. Whoa, you should have heard the uproar.

So it's open for everyone...it's really a shame how this section of the forum is abused. But what the hell...it gives me something to bitch about too

[Stanford]

The PABs are backed up since 28 September at the moment, and I need to focus on those and not this.

I am sure someone jumped you but I don't recall who that was. I tend to ignore that sort of thing. I think my very first post was predicated on the player not being a fraudster. Fraud violates rule number 2.

I am glad you don't list Fortune Lounge. Kudos for that. I think the related problem is still there. Those bonus terms are awful. Allowing lookbacks to see how a person played his hand after accepting the wager and then not paying the winnings just isn't right.

So... I expect you backlog to continue to grow. At least by not listing them, it won't grow as much.

Anyway, good luck from the bleachers. Being from the US, I doubt I will venture into online casinos in the future. But I did once. Thanks for keeping us safe.

imho,
Stanford

[gmblpdam]

I still stand by what I said about you not being very nice to people who accept bonuses. However, it is clear that we were (myself included) a little early to jump to gun here. For that I apologize. I do still see a trend being set as it being acceptable not to pay advantage players. I agree with Stanford that a bet played, should be a bet paid.

However, this case was clearly different and I'm glad that it was sorted out. Nice work on rapping this up so quickly.