Playersclub wouldn't pay $5100

**gde2006** · 30th May 2007, 05:20 AM

I picthed a bitch and also emailed the casino many times.

The casinomeister believed the casino in this regard, Webdollar believed the casino and I thought I should forget about the money.

Now that I saw Pharaos casino was blacklisted, maybe someone is going to believe me that I am not a fraud and that winnings should be paid.

I sent them documents if I remember well, I also explained them that Internet connection in Turkey was poor when I played and I had to download the software again to be able to login.

I also had to wait a long time for security code to come in the mail until I could cashout my winnings. They don't pay and accuse me in Fraud. This is what they had to say, I want my winnings in full.

I was so mad that I didn't even check if the deposit of 100 was refunded, I want my winnings in full, no Bullshit like that.

Dear xxxxx,Although your only have a short history with Pharaohs Casino, we have found some problems in your logfiles You have used different software installations to access your account. This could indicate a type of fraud ID we have seen before. You wagering history also makes me worry players with traces of ID fraud often bet the bonus money aggressively to make an edge in favor of the player. In your betting history the very same type of wagering has been done.The explanation in your last email does help us any further, we are therefore force to keep you account closed.Mike Bunkley,Manager Players Club Casinowww.

**happygobrokey** · 30th May 2007, 08:39 AM

pharaoh's is back on, see the online casinos announcements under "pharaoh's casino back on".

**gde2006** · 30th May 2007, 08:50 AM

Casinomeister blacklisted Pharaohs but did not rogued Playersclub

As you can see from the email they sent me they both owned by the same guy whatever his real name is, he is lying and not paying...

All operations run by this guy should be Rogues I know about

Pharaohs casino
Players club casino

Does anyone know about anoter one ?

So Players club should be rogued too, they don't pay.

**gde2006** · 30th May 2007, 09:05 AM

Ohh, they are accredited again. Then are they going to pay my winnings ?

**Vesuvio** · 30th May 2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by gde2006

Dear xxxxx,Although your only have a short history with Pharaohs Casino, we have found some problems in your logfiles You have used different software installations to access your account. This could indicate a type of fraud ID we have seen before. You wagering history also makes me worry players with traces of ID fraud often bet the bonus money aggressively to make an edge in favor of the player. In your betting history the very same type of wagering has been done.The explanation in your last email does help us any further, we are therefore force to keep you account closed.Mike Bunkley,Manager Players Club Casino

That e-mail in itself is probably sufficient to return this casino to the rogue pit. It has to be said again: you can't take players' money on the basis of mere suspicion. Either you have proof of fraud or you don't. That something "could" indicate ID fraud won't cut it, and if you don't want players to wager the bonus "aggressively" you have to specify exactly what's not allowed in the terms. If you don't the player can play however he or she likes.

Indicators like those mentioned are sufficient only to flag accounts you can then investigate more closely. If there's no hard evidence you need to pay the player and then ban them from subsequent play.

**gde2006** · 30th May 2007, 01:22 PM

They based their founding on History.

No matter what I told Webdollar and also the Casinomeister the casino word was the one to be accepted.

I knew I am not going to get paid, it is very easy to flag someone with big win with a bonus and tell him you are probably a fraud.

What is it ? History classes ? If I had lost I would have gave them my deposit in full.

This was quite long ago but I am still very mad at Players Club for not paying me my winnings.

They gave me enough run around with the security code that took long time to arrive anyway.

**happygobrokey** · 30th May 2007, 02:28 PM

why did you never post about it before now? just wondering

**Casinomeister** · 30th May 2007, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by gde2006

Ohh, they are accredited again. Then are they going to pay my winnings ?

Are you in Israel, Turkey, or the US?

How many computers do you have?

How many times have you installed the casino software?

And is there anything else you want to tell me?