RTG Information Forum

**Casinomeister** · 7th January 2007, 03:24 AM

That's weird. I have this:
http://www.icei-exhibition.com/104/543/639/661/

RTG is still listed at this URL.

If they don't show up, it will be a major total complete disappointment. Might as well stay at home.

**Pinababy69** · 7th January 2007, 03:26 AM

Bryan, notice the difference in the URL's? Is there two different "forums" or halls? My URL says ice...yours says icei?

**Pinababy69** · 7th January 2007, 03:47 AM

So there is ICE and ICEi? ICE is the main show itself, ICEi is the dedicated remote gaming zone? Told you I didn't know what I was talking about.

http://www.ateonline.co.uk/104/

**dc9999** · 7th January 2007, 04:59 AM

On a somewhat related note...

RTG has decided to totally revamp their website.

Check it out at www.realtimegaming.com

It's as "impressive" as the Hastings BV site

Gone are the tabs for: "who we are", "preview games", "the realtime difference", and of course, the best one of all ------ "clients"....

Perhaps the next iteration will break down the "clients" into two camps:

the select few who are above board, and the vast majority that qualify as total scammers.

'Nuff said.

**winbig** · 7th January 2007, 05:05 AM

lmao...what a joke for a site. Did they get a 10yo to design it?

**soflat** · 7th January 2007, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by dc9999

Perhaps if folks expressed as much disdain with the "Oliver Currans" of the online gaming world instead of sending out numerous barbs against myself and others who have been screwed royally for months by RTG powered sites, we'd be enjoying a better industry.

Incidentally, my remark relative to RTG "apologists" was not intended for the forum moderator, rather for those individuals who keep contending that the RTG execs are merely wet-behind-the-ears "software developers" who have no control over their licensees.

Who are you refering to in your posts?

In this thread it seems like everyone agreed with you that RTG has numerous rogue operators.

Who are the apologists? And where are these barbs against you? Who said RTG execs are wet behind the ears? Are we reading the same thread??

**dc9999** · 7th January 2007, 06:08 AM

The reoccurring theme (see vinylweatherman's post for example) among SOME posters, is that because there are SOME reputable RTG operators, I shouldn't be lumping all of the rogue RTG sites with them. Nor criticizing the below board sites for being "non responsive" because SOME RTG casino reps are accessible.

I of course, vehemently disagree...RTG has gotten a free pass for far too long. If they can't police their own, then they should be held accountable for the problems emanating from their rogue licensees. It doesn't matter if inetbet, King Solomons etc are "good guys".......If you are an accessory to crimes, performing SOME good deeds doesn't make you less criminal.

To be fair, I probably overreacted a bit with some of my posts. And for that I apologize because the vast majority of posters have been, as you pointed out, very sympathetic.

So thanks for your support,,,,and I hope in the end, that the many players who have been fleeced by RTG licensees receive justice, and that RTG themselves can clean up their act.

**dc9999** · 7th January 2007, 04:28 PM

It's also interesting to note that RTG is the only "major" online gambling software provider that is NOT a full ICE participant (which incidentally, they WERE until they pulled out on January 5) - electing only to take up shop at the markedly smaller ICEi gathering. (Hence those slew of confusing postings that cropped up within this thread yesterday!)

Microgaming, Cassava, and Playtech for instance, are ALL at the larger ICE forum as well as the ICEi version.

Also, it will be interesting to see who the RTG reps will be. RTG CEO Mike McMain proudly touted his appearances back in October at the London eGaming Awards and the Barcelona i-Gaming Congress. I sincerely doubt he'll be at ICE - er I mean ICEi

Mr. McMain's "european Fall tour" was previously highlighted on the previously expansive RTG website, which as winbig so aptly pointed out, is now pretty much a joke.

**Casinomeister** · 7th January 2007, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by dc9999

It's also interesting to note that RTG is the only "major" online gambling software provider that is NOT a full ICE participant (which incidentally, they WERE until they pulled out on January 5) - electing only to take up shop at the markedly smaller ICEi gathering. (Hence those slew of confusing postings that cropped up within this thread yesterday!)

Microgaming, Cassava, and Playtech for instance, are ALL at the larger ICE forum as well as the ICEi version.

Also, it will be interesting to see who the RTG reps will be. RTG CEO Mike McMain proudly touted his appearances back in October at the London eGaming Awards and the Barcelona i-Gaming Congress. I sincerely doubt he'll be at ICE - er I mean ICEi

Mr. McMain's "european Fall tour" was previously highlighted on the previously expansive RTG website, which as winbig so aptly pointed out, is now pretty much a joke.

Hi dc9999,

Please understand that the ICEi section is for Internet based companies:
http://www.icei-exhibition.com/104/5...661/index.php?

MGS, Playtech, RTG and all the rest have always been listed here. I believe you're making an issue out of nothing.

I've been to the ICE six years in a row, and the Internet based companies have always been in a separate section. This is just the first year that they (ATEI) have giving the Internet companies a separate identifier (i).

**spearmaster** · 7th January 2007, 07:24 PM

There is no difference between ICE and ICEi other than the fact that the little i indicates the online gambling companies. The ICEi identifier has actually been used for a couple years now but I don't think that they actually had different URLs in past years.