KING NEPTUNES Is Withholding My Winnings!

[dominique]

holding a business interest to a casino & or gambling venue.

And why would that be a negative?

If you have a grocery store, and you get some of your produce from ABCfarms, and someone claimed they got sick from eating this produce, would you want to know if the produce is bad or would you tell everyone it was just fine? What would the repercussions be for each choice? Same thing here.

If I do business with ABCcasino I am very, very interested in finding out if there is anything wrong.

Not only does my reputation depend on it, and not only do we have the situaton where "if the player ain't happy, ain't nobody happy", and not only do I play myself, but if ABCcasino screws players it is screwing me too. I just have absolutely no way of proving it ever, which is a whole other story.

If I promote ABCcasino, I am indeed very interested and concerned about what happens to you there.

[AussieDave]

And why would that be a negative?

If you have a grocery store, and you get some of your produce from ABCfarms, and someone claimed they got sick from eating this produce, would you want to know if the produce is bad or would you tell everyone it was just fine? What would the repercussions be for each choice? Same thing here.

If I do business with ABCcasino I am very, very interested in finding out if there is anything wrong.

Not only does my reputation depend on it, and not only do we have the situaton where "if the player ain't happy, ain't nobody happy", and not only do I play myself, but if ABCcasino screws players it is screwing me too. I just have absolutely no way of proving it ever, which is a whole other story.

If I promote ABCcasino, I am indeed very interested and concerned about what happens to you there.

Edit: Dom was that in reply to my post?

[spearmaster]

Granted your not an active affiliate Spear, but CM derives income from media buys. Which is technically not an affiliate. Though from Linus's understanding and also from non savvy industry people, using the term "affiliate" may also mean to them holding a business interest to a casino & or gambling venue.

Yes, there is a line that can be drawn, perhaps - but Linus is probably savvy enough to know the difference - as you can tell from many of his posts he is generally well-informed.

I can't speak to whether or not there have been any media buys here from Trident Grouup, as I generally ignore advertising LOL. But in my case it's still a non-starter as I neither promote nor derive an income from Trident.

[Freudian]

Motive is irrelevant until you can show where the casino was WRONG.

Not even the casino itself views this issue as black/white as you do. They themselves admit to allowing some customers to keep their profit when mistakes like this occur.

But they don't allow this one to keep the profit, for what everyone surely must agree is more of an example of extremely unfortunate timing than anything else. Which brings us straight back to motive because the money involved is significant. You claiming it is irrelevant doesn't make it irrelevant.

[sdaddy]

With all due respect to the players complaining about this case, I don't see how we can fault a casino for enforcing its written rules, however rigidly. The other side of this is that you can always count on a first-class group like Trident to follow its rules and promises, and this is very reassuring to me as a player. That is why I play there frequently and will continue to do so.

[spearmaster]

Not even the casino itself views this issue as black/white as you do. They themselves admit to allowing some customers to keep their profit when mistakes like this occur.

But they don't allow this one to keep the profit, for what everyone surely must agree is more of an example of extremely unfortunate timing than anything else. Which brings us straight back to motive because the money involved is significant. You claiming it is irrelevant doesn't make it irrelevant.

Did they say under what circumstances some customers are allowed to keep their profits?

And did they say any where what these amounts were?

[AussieDave]

Yes, there is a line that can be drawn, perhaps - but Linus is probably savvy enough to know the difference - as you can tell from many of his posts he is generally well-informed.

I can't speak to whether or not there have been any media buys here from Trident Grouup, as I generally ignore advertising LOL. But in my case it's still a non-starter as I neither promote nor derive an income from Trident.

Just trying to be devils advocate in that case; you can have that job back Spear.

As you don't take too much notice of advertsing, the same goes for me with Linus's posts (no offense Linus), so I wouldn't know if Linus is savvy or not! It was a generalised post.

[spearmaster]

Just trying to be devils advocate in that case; you can have that job back Spear.

As you don't take too much notice of advertsing, the same goes for me with Linus's posts (no offense Linus), so I wouldn't know if Linus is savvy or not! It was a generalised post.

LOL. Actually, I think that as I am currently absent from duties as moderator, perhaps I ought to be absent from being devil's advocate as well

[dominique]

Edit: Dom was that in reply to my post?

Yes it was, but it is also in response to this whole thread.

I get really tired of people assuming that as affiliate I don't care what happens with players.

It's exactly the opposite, it is WHY I DO care.

[AussieDave]

And why would that be a negative?

If you have a grocery store, and you get some of your produce from ABCfarms, and someone claimed they got sick from eating this produce, would you want to know if the produce is bad or would you tell everyone it was just fine? What would the repercussions be for each choice? Same thing here.

If I do business with ABCcasino I am very, very interested in finding out if there is anything wrong.

Not only does my reputation depend on it, and not only do we have the situaton where "if the player ain't happy, ain't nobody happy", and not only do I play myself, but if ABCcasino screws players it is screwing me too. I just have absolutely no way of proving it ever, which is a whole other story.

If I promote ABCcasino, I am indeed very interested and concerned about what happens to you there.

I'll re-add my response.

By all means dom quote me but please do so in context, thanks.