prepaid atm

[bobbiep]

Hi,I wonder if anyone is having trouble with prepaid atm. For a long time they were fine and now they keep saying they are having trouble with their credit card processor and want me to fund my account with other methods. I always use my visa debit card and that will no longer work. Are they in some kind of trouble and don't want to say?

Thanks,

BobbieP

[Casinomeister]

This is something I am not presently using. Anyone else having this problem??

[threejaguar]

The federal gov. in the US is on the rampage against prepaid ATM cards.... They closed down the prepaid vending machines attached to the coin counters at local department stores here.

They now want a government ID number to attach to all ATM cards owned by US citizens, and funded by US banks or other US financial institutions.

Evil money launderers are the excuse for this action.

If you value anonimity, I would suggest going outside the US for a VISA/debit card for now, if you are a US citizen.

You may want to consider these folks:
http://www.swisspost.ch/SiteOnLine/EN/Accueil/1,1727,8784-4,00.html

Heh.


(Message edited by threejaguar on May 21, 2003)

[jetset]

That's interesting, three jaguar.

Can you say where these local stores have been having government hassles - which city?

[threejaguar]

No, I'd rather not say which city.

The notice blamed the "Patriot" act, and let cardholders know they could spend their current balances, but not recharge the card. You cannot issue an ATM card in the US to a US citizen now without getting an S.S. number from him.

[iataz]

That is very interesting threejaquar as I just funded my PPATM card and was able to withdraw money from it not only at a service station but also at my banks ATM machine

They now want a government ID number to attach to all ATM cards owned by US citizens, and funded by US banks or other US financial institutions

And I believe the above statement isn't exactly true until the bill against online gambling in the USA passes

However Bryan or anyone please correct me if I am wrong

[casino_surfer]

I believe this depends which state you're in.

[bobbiep]

Hi,
Perhaps when I posted my first inquiry I was not clear about the use of the prepaid atm account. This account acts exactly the same as firepay, debiting your checking account with a visa debit card, except now it doesn't work because they keep saying their credit card processor does not work. I believe after this long (more than a month), it will never be working, so unless you want to wire transfer funds to a casino through prepaid atm (their suggestion as an additional source of funding), they are deemed useless. Incidently I never actually used the prepaid atm card which they sent me when I opened my account.

To make matters worse, my bank (both california and nevada) will not allow a debit charge on my account from neteller. Why do you suppose that is?

BobbieP

[Antonia1953]

I have an account with PrepaidATM also. I think your right. It doesn't look like they will be accepting credit card charges anymore. I used Western Union Quick Pay method a couple of times, but apparently, a problem has arisen there also. It is my understanding, that PrepaidATM has increased their merchant fees and so all transactions with them have been suspended. Perhaps, the same issue has dry-docked the credit card end.

I had a rather disturbing experience with these folks recently.

One morning, a little after 6:00 AM, I received a call from a John Grey. He said he was in charge of PrepaidATM's Fraud Dept. and that I had one hour to make a money transfer good that had been returned from my bank. I was stunned, as I had not made any money transfers through them in a couple of months. I told him so and immediately expressed my concern that some sort of criminal activity might be taking place. He responded with, "Shut up! I'm not listening to any of your shit! Get a pen and write this down." He proceed to give me information on how to get money to them immediately. By then, I'd had enough and told him he must be out of his rabid-ass mind to be making such a call to me. I proceeded to blast him (wide-open, I might add). He hung up. I immediately called PrepaidATM and demanded to speak to a sane person. A gentleman came on the line and identified himself as the President. I told him what had happened and he put me on hold to check what might be the problem. Shortly, he came back on and said he didn't see any problem with my account. He apologized for this John Grey and then said, I had to understand that Mr. Grey worked with collections all day and that he wasn't paid to be a sweet guy. I told him the man needed a good, swift, ass kicking and no, I didn't have to understand him, but that the seriously silly jackass better never call me again. Needless to say, I haven't used their service since.

[iataz]

Antonia
I read your post with extreme interest, I had also gotten a call from John Grey and an email from him stating the same thing, however with my situation the funds had been returned to them one time.. he also threatened me saying I had one hour to wire them the funds or I would be expidited to NV to face criminal charges.. I tried to insure him that it was not done intentionally that I had received a bad check from somebody and to reprocess the transactions thru my checking account again.. He said that was not possible and I would be facing criminal charges for fraud if this was not taken care of within the hour.
Being scared ~~I immediatly did everything I could to come up with the funds he was requesting and wired them immediatly..
So a week later I notice funds missing from my checking account and I find out from my bank that it is PPATM, now get this.. They were reprocessing the same transactions that John Grey had originally called me about.. I promptly called Mr. Grey and asked him why they were reprocessing them when I had already wired him the funds.. He said " Our credit dept reserves the right to process them thru a second time" Now remember he had told me earlier that they couldn't do that. I retold him again ~ I have already sent you money for this.. He responded that I would have to give them 3-5 days to check this out.. I told him he had one hour to put the funds into my account or he would face criminal charges himself.
They did refund the amount they had taken out, however by them taking out the funds twice in the first place it caused me to have over drafts in my checking account which cost me close to $250.00 in overdraft fees, late fees etc etc that they refused to reimburse..
At first I thought it was something I was going to have to live with due to the fact that originally I had messed up my checking account and the funds didn't clear the first time, but after hearing what you went thru, I wonder how many other people this John Grey has done this to, that are actually intimidated by him and believe what he says.
I still use their services (call me dumb)although they no longer are allowed to withdraw funds from my accounts.
I haven't had a problem with them since, but I also think the little weasel knows not to fuck with me again, however I do think he needs to be reported, hell for all the president knows this man could be embezzling from them.