Just Curious

**Antonia1953** · 28th July 2009, 02:39 PM

Why would any accredited casino not be an eCogra member?

**Antonia1953** · 28th July 2009, 04:22 PM

Uh oh. Now I'm up-close-and-personal curious.

**bryand** · 29th July 2009, 03:06 AM

I assume you mean any Microgamming casino???

**Antonia1953** · 29th July 2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by bryand

I assume you mean any Microgamming casino???

Of the 51 accredited MG casinos only 12 are not eCogra members.

**Casinomeister** · 29th July 2009, 03:22 PM

There could be a number of reasons. One is that it's expensive. Another is that perhaps some feel they don't need it. It used to be that eCOGRA would evaluate and audit the software provider first, then casinos from that platform could opt to join. Microgaming, 888.com, and then ongame were certified and then the casinos followed. If memory serves me, they changed their policy and are open to casinos that have not had their provider pre-evaluated. You'd probably be better off asking the casinos themselves or eCOGRA for that matter, since I really don't have the answer.

**Antonia1953** · 29th July 2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

There could be a number of reasons. One is that it's expensive. Another is that perhaps some feel they don't need it. It used to be that eCOGRA would evaluate and audit the software provider first, then casinos from that platform could opt to join. Microgaming, 888.com, and then ongame were certified and then the casinos followed. If memory serves me, they changed their policy and are open to casinos that have not had their provider pre-evaluated. You'd probably be better off asking the casinos themselves or eCOGRA for that matter, since I really don't have the answer.

Thank you for your response. Why do you not think it important to be an eCogra member?

Once the common denominators are identified, there may not be any reason to ask them. I want to determine why an organization that is playing a major role in substantiating this industry as a viable and controllable business is not being more commonly, actively supported.

**Casinomeister** · 29th July 2009, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Antonia1953

Thank you for your response. Why do you not think it important to be an eCogra member?

I never said it wasn't important. The thing is that there are a number of mitigating circumstances that affect business decisions; joining/not joining eCOGRA is a major decision and I'm not privy to what goes on at the board meetings.

**Antonia1953** · 29th July 2009, 04:14 PM

Apparently, I was editing while you were responding...

**Casinomeister** · 29th July 2009, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Antonia1953

...I want to determine why an organization that is playing a major role in substantiating this industry as a viable and controllable business is not being more commonly, actively supported.

Actually, I think they are. They have a high profile, they are at every major industry event, they are very active on the operational side of things, and they have been steadily increasing their certifications. Many of the casinos listed here at Casinomeister are eCOGRA certified.

**lots0** · 29th July 2009, 09:59 PM

And then there are those of us that have serious questions and concerns about ecogra.

I think anytime you have a 'watch dog' that was founded and is totally funded by the business that it is supposed to watch over with out any outside oversight... there will be concerns.

I know Bryan fully supports ecogra... This is one thing we disagree on.