What happened to 3Dice

[NASHVEGAS]

Certified Fair Gambling audited 3-Dice blackjack in December 2007/January 2008. It was determined at that time to be a statistically fair game and the audit was discussed on this site.

A fairness audit is a contract between a software developer and a third party to verify game fairness using statistical tests and to verifty payouts. Some comments in this thread imply that the results of such an audit would be made public. The auditing company checks that the slots are producing the payout percentages indicated in their documentation. There is no assumption that the payouts or RTP reports for the games (especially the slots/keno/bingo) will be made public by the auditor or the casino, although that is often the case. In particular, slot payout percentages and variance are proprietary.

Full transparency,Eliot.......do I have your permission for such?

[Boris303]

From browsing around this forum i have seen 3dice issue's come up again and again. And im glad this has happened to them because they can prove themselves by getting this audit done and getting accredited again.
I closed my account with them due to the payouts of their slots, if an audit was done, that would go very far in convincing me to try again there.

For me, i want to feel like im playing them, not them playing me.

[3Dice]

Hiya guys,

Just got back from a cruise on the Mediterranean .. it was fantastic - except for the crappy internet - something you gotta do if you ever get the chance

On the topic tho - you can turn the lights back on and take the flashlights of your face - 3rd party audits have never been a priority for the simple reason that there's never been any substantial demand for it from our customer base. I think we've seen as many requests for that since we started as we get requests for more slots every single week. With limited manpower - its always been an obvious choice to make. Its always been on the planning - just never made it to the top of the priority list.

The current situation has given me some more leverage to push this through and we've allready started the audit process. We'll be back on the accredited list before you can say 'Don Quichotte'

Cheers,

Enzo

[chuchu59]

Is the pronounciation the same as 'Don Quixote'?

[silcnlayc]

Don Quichotte'

I like quiche!

Is the pronounciation the same as 'Don Quixote'?

I like Enzo's pronunciation better! Makes me want breakfast!

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[3Dice]

Hi ChuChu,

well ..

The original title is "El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha" - but according to wiki, Quixote is a disambiguation (Don Quixote (disambiguation)). I prefer writing it Quichotte as that is closest to how you pronounce it
(its also how the opera is officially called - which is how it got famous ..)

Ciao,

Enzo

[RobWin]

Hiya guys,

Just got back from a cruise on the Mediterranean .. it was fantastic - except for the crappy internet - something you gotta do if you ever get the chance

On the topic tho - you can turn the lights back on and take the flashlights of your face - 3rd party audits have never been a priority for the simple reason that there's never been any substantial demand for it from our customer base. I think we've seen as many requests for that since we started as we get requests for more slots every single week. With limited manpower - its always been an obvious choice to make. Its always been on the planning - just never made it to the top of the priority list.

The current situation has given me some more leverage to push this through and we've allready started the audit process. We'll be back on the accredited list before you can say 'Don Quichotte'

Cheers,

Enzo

I thought Bryan had stated that you had originally agreed to furnish this audit when he first listed 3Dice here??

You also say that you have already started the audit process....who is doing the audit if you don't mind us asking??

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[RobWin]

I thought Bryan had stated that you had originally agreed to furnish this audit when he first listed 3Dice here??

You also say that you have already started the audit process....who is doing the audit if you don't mind us asking??

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Recently, I relaunched the Accredited Section with the standards for Accredited casinos being a bit more detailed. One of them is the following:

I gave all of the operators a heads up on all the new standards at the end of May - most of whom came back to me stating no problem. I also realized at this time (going through all my old emails) that when I brought 3Dice on in Jan 2008 it was on the condition that they would have 3rd party auditing in place soon. One and a half years is not "soon" for me.

No PABs, no submitted complaints, nothing that perked my ears up. I've just made the standards more concise - that's all; I need to ensure that the casinos listed here meet these.

Yep...I found it....

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[bryand]

Dang Rob, why you sweating 3D so much? Sounds personal to me

[3Dice]

Hi Robwin,

I thought Bryan had stated that you had originally agreed to furnish this audit when he first listed 3Dice here??

Yes when Bryan asked me about this I told him it was on the planning, but also that a number of slot machines were to be released before we would be able to spend the manpower on that. I believe at the time the planning was to release one machine a month until we had a more decent selection of slots, something our userbase was (and is) screaming for. The timing there turned out to be a bit ambitious, not uncommon amongst software developers .

At the end of the day the allocation of our manpower and budget is determined solely by our players. Our efforts are spent there where we believe it will make the most difference for our players and ultimately this strategy ensures the best situation for everyone. No offense to Bryan, but if we have to pick between what CM asks and what our players ask, then that is a very easy choice to make.

Let me assure you that it takes a lot more work, organization and effort to run an online casino for years without a single non-payment or delayed payment issue, bonus T&C complaint, voiding of winnings, or meaningful PAB (we've only had two - players trying to get back in..), than it does to get a third party audit performed. It is also an effort I believe is much more appreciated by the players ..

You also say that you have already started the audit process....who is doing the audit if you don't mind us asking??

With the initial audit currently in progress I cant be to specific yet, but we're using a respected third party auditing company used by numerous other big players in this sector.

Kindest Regards,

Enzo