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[sirius]

What do you know about Fire and Ice and Hot Pepper Casino? I don't know anything about them apart from the obvious so wondered how they got accredited so easily. The last new Odds on site I remember went bust (40 Plus).

I think you are starting to add too many sites in the accredited section. Main Street only paid some players years afterwards with no interest and there is already a new report about them in the forum.

By the way, I looked at the rogue section and noticed wager21 was in the 'rogue' and 'past issues' part simultaneously. Aren't they supposed to be in one only?

I also noticed casino4aces in 'past issues' section (citing 'under observation' and 'customer service' issues) but this is using casinobar software and should be rogued.

 

[jetset]

I would say that this is Bryan's site and his responsibility and judgement, based on his own industry knowledge and contacts and on the views of his members.

Pretty much in the same way that you have your site and make your judgements.

 

[The Dude]

What do you know about Fire and Ice and Hot Pepper Casino? I don't know anything about them apart from the obvious so wondered how they got accredited so easily. The last new Odds on site I remember went bust (40 Plus).

I think you are starting to add too many sites in the accredited section. Main Street only paid some players years afterwards with no interest and there is already a new report about them in the forum.

By the way, I looked at the rogue section and noticed wager21 was in the 'rogue' and 'past issues' part simultaneously. Aren't they supposed to be in one only?

I also noticed casino4aces in 'past issues' section (citing 'under observation' and 'customer service' issues) but this is using casinobar software and should be rogued.

Sirius, do I go to your website and start posting my opinion on how you run things or start nit-picking on which casinos are listed at your site?

I've already explained why these casinos have been listed at Casinomeister. What do I know about Fire and Ice and Hot Pepper? A lot. You would know just as much if you got out and start making appearances at online gaming conferences and exhibitions. So far, I don't think you've attended a single one. It's at these places where you have the opportunity to meet the owners and operators of online casinos - and I've known the operators for a number of years.

As for 40 plus casino, it was an Oddsoncasino that has nothing to do with these guys. I have no idea why you bring this up. It's like saying MG's Goodfellows casino went bust so don't take on any more MGs. What the hell is that?

By the way, all 40+ players were paid by the EH group, and it wasn't all that much $$ by the way.

Main Street has been around for years, and they run a very good operation. I've been watching them closely for months, and their players don't have any unresolved issues and nary a complaint. I have direct contact with the owner, and I'm satisfied that these casinos meet the criteria to be listed here.

By the way, I looked at the rogue section and noticed wager21 was in the 'rogue' and 'past issues' part simultaneously. Aren't they supposed to be in one only?

Don't have any idea what you're talking about. Wager21 has been listed only in the "past issues" section since September/October. Read the newsletter.

casino4aces is under different ownership and software. No reason to keep them in the rogue section. Again, I am in direct contact with these owners as well.

In a nutshell: I make all of my decisions after well thought-out planning, due dilligence, and research. I do not live in a vaccuum - I have a very high profile. And this website is about as transparent as you can get because I explain most all of my decisions in public.

Who else does this?

If you aren't keeping up with newsletters, webcasts, or with the information posted on the website (and not just in the forum), well that's your problem - not mine. But please don't try to make it my problem by stirring the shit in my forum. I have enough work as it is. If you want any advice on how to run your website, feel free to PM me and I'll help you out.

 

[sirius]

My main question was about the new odds on sites although I did ramble on a bit. When I said I didn't think you should add so many so quickly in the accredited section (or words to that effect) I didn't mean to tell you how to run the site but that it seems some of them are a probably not that worthy. I was also just pointing out some possible errors I noticed. I am also feeling uneasy lately at things here in more ways than one because I've noticed in some threads you've commented on my site before without making it obvious. Can you forget about my site as I was here well before I even had a site (which I only started as a hobby and not a business) and it's not relevant to what I'm saying.

I still am none the wiser about these new odds on casinos and I haven't found anything searching your site. I was also pointing out that there are very few new operators who choose oddson and we all know what happened to the last one a couple of years ago. I have spent some time searching your site but can't find anything about them.

Yes, I have attended gaming conferences but not for the reason you go there as I think it could cause some problems taking a balanced view.
Early on, Casinomeister was recommending Handa Lopez casinos that cheated (Grand Dominican and others who claimed to be great casinos). You can't always believe what these casino employees tell you.

Casino4Aces is definitely a rogue operation despite you knowing the owners. They have the same registrant address, same servers and same affiliate program as casinobar. The affiliate program is at www.winneraffiliates.com and only features casinoonair, casinobar and casino4aces. Winner is the newest name for them, it seems.

Wager21 has been listed only in the "past issues" section since September/October.

I thought they should only be listed in one but they are still in the rogue section too. That was all I was pointing out (I didn't mention where I thought they should be which I'm sure you can guess).

Main Street Group hasn't fully resolved its problems from years ago but may still have problems now. The person posting about slots.com had a worrying problem which your response didn't acknowledge at all. This sort of issue isn't one that should be swept under the carpet as it represents fraudulant behaviour by the casino if the poster was telling the truth. I'm sure you understand the seriousness of it despite your response to him.

Financial transactions are processed through RX Advertising Limited, 48 Bedford Road, Ruislip, Middlesex, HA4 6NA, UK; owner of this casino

I looked into the company who own the Main Street Casinos (their casinos including slots.com say they are owned by RX ADVERTISING LIMITED) but they haven't filed any accounts since they started in April 2004. Not sure if the 'striking off notice' is by the Registrar of Companies (seems likely as they have no accounts) or they requested to be dissolved:

Company Name:
RX ADVERTISING LIMITED

Company No: 05103364
Registered Office:
Incorporated: 16/04/2004 48 BEDFORD ROAD
RUISLIP
MIDDLESEX HA4 6NA
HA4 6NA


Company Type: Private Limited
Legal Status: Striking off Notice
Report Status: Full Data
Accounts Type: Unknown
Latest Accounts to: ?
Latest Return to: ?

Please note that this company has not yet filed any accounts at Companies House and therefore no financial information will be available.

VIPCasinos had a slightly dodgy past and I have refused advertising from them when a casino in the group wanted to advertise on my site about a year ago. They didn't really try very hard to look into these past problems with casinos (Goodasgold casino in particular wouldn't pay someone for 'irregular betting')! They were involved in a strange 'reverse' acquisition a few months back (Leisure and Gaming were reported to have bought VIP Management) but the same people are still there including Alistair Assheton who was the Managing Director before I think.

VIP made some mistakes with their casinos in the past which they should have resolved when they had the chance but now it seems too much time has passed for it to be easy for them. It wasn't only when they started out. There is a thread here about one incident last year: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/good-as-gold-vip-casinos-wall-street-casino.4971/

 

[sirius]

Maybe I missed something obvious but I can't find the info about the new Odds On Casinos. What were the operators doing before. You say you've known them for an number of years?

 

[The Dude]

My main question was about the new odds on sites although I did ramble on a bit. When I said I didn't think you should add so many so quickly in the accredited section (or words to that effect) I didn't mean to tell you how to run the site but that it seems some of them are a probably not that worthy. I was also just pointing out some possible errors I noticed.

Thanks for the concern, and don't get me wrong - I always appreciate it when people point out where I may have overlooked something, or if I'm not clear enough in what I'm doing.

It may have seen like suddenly a lot of new casinos were added to the "Accredited Section" but in reality it's only a handful of operations. Since November 2004, I've taken on six new clients. That's minuscule compared to how many operators are wanting to get on board. All six of these clients I have known in one way or another for quite a while. Each one of these guys know that they make a commitment when I take them on.

If there has been issues in the past, then I need to make them aware of this. And this needs to be issues that are not merely anonymous forum postings. These need to be real tangible issues that beg for a resolution/solution.

I am also feeling uneasy lately at things here in more ways than one because I've noticed in some threads you've commented on my site before without making it obvious. Can you forget about my site as I was here well before I even had a site (which I only started as a hobby and not a business) and it's not relevant to what I'm saying.

I only make comment when other webmasters such as yourself come here and publicly challenge what goes on. To be frank, it's not an appropriate thing to do. You don't see me posting at WOL asking what's up with them advertising xyz casino. You don't see Max over here wondering what's up with Fortune Lounge. And you don't see John Abbott from Gone Gambling making the rounds challenging whomever is advertising for whatever. If I have a question on any of these portals' policies, I'll email them.

...I was also pointing out that there are very few new operators who choose oddson and we all know what happened to the last one a couple of years ago.

Operators choose software providers for a number of reasons. Oddson casinos aren't as costly as some of their competitors. Most new operators lean toward Playtech unless they have mega bucks, then they go toward MG.

...Yes, I have attended gaming conferences but not for the reason you go there as I think it could cause some problems taking a balanced view. .

So you're stating I have an "imbalanced" view? I attend these conferences to gather information, to report on my findings, and to meet operators that either want to commit themselves to come on board, or to solve player problems. It's costly, it's time consuming, and it's thankless in most cases. And I spend too much time away from my family attending these things. I think I have a very balanced viewpoint.

Early on, Casinomeister was recommending Handa Lopez casinos that cheated (Grand Dominican and others who claimed to be great casinos). You can't always believe what these casino employees tell you.

Yeah, back in 1998-99 before anyone new they cheated. This site was in an embryonic stage back then (like every portal). Everyone was flying by the seat of their pants. To imply that I was being an a-hole webmaster is a bit out of line.

Casino4Aces is definitely a rogue operation despite you knowing the owners. They have the same registrant address, same servers and same affiliate program as casinobar. The affiliate program is at www.winneraffiliates.com and only features casinoonair, casinobar and casino4aces. Winner is the newest name for them, it seems..

Casino4Aces was originally rogued for effed up customer service, but I know they were sold to someone else with a different staff. If they are still using the old casino-on-air software, then they go back into the rogue pit. I have no problems with that.

Main Street Group hasn't fully resolved its problems from years ago but may still have problems now. The person posting about slots.com had a worrying problem which your response didn't acknowledge at all. This sort of issue isn't one that should be swept under the carpet as it represents fraudulant behaviour by the casino if the poster was telling the truth. I'm sure you understand the seriousness of it despite your response to him.

I haven't had the time to fully look into the Slots.com situation yet. I've been more or less away from full work days for over a week and I have a lot of shit to do. If there are problems with the Main Street Group, then this is the time to bring it on. They have been listed at a couple of other popular sites for months, and virtually no one has had any problem with them past or present. Then this is the time to bring them on (like I mentioned above).

VIPCasinos had a slightly dodgy past and I have refused advertising from them when a casino in the group wanted to advertise on my site about a year ago. They didn't really try very hard to look into these past problems with casinos (Goodasgold casino in particular wouldn't pay someone for 'irregular betting')! They were involved in a strange 'reverse' acquisition a few months back (Leisure and Gaming were reported to have bought VIP Management) but the same people are still there including Alistair Assheton who was the Managing Director before I think..

I think that most everyone would agree that Alistair Assheton is an upstanding operator. There were a couple of issues a year or so ago that were resolved. What's the problem?

Again, if there is anything unresolved or lingering, there shouldn't be a problem looking at this. They have reps here you can PM by the way.

 

[rudepete]

Fair casinos.com

I meant Fair Casinos Online Casino Guide and Casino Forum .

I decided to check out Sirius's site. this is what I copied. I guess everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I didn't like the site and would not join. SORRY

Quote"This has become the only true casino watchdog site online. Think of it as your trustworthy online casino guide"UNquote

I belong to many forums and did not like what I read or saw.

 

[jetset]

Leisure & Gaming was set up at the end of 2004 as a listed cash shell aimed at growing through acquisitions in the Internet gaming sector.

Its first acquisition in June '05 was VIP Management, owner of VIPsports and VIPpoker, followed last month by the online casino business of one of Britain's biggest casino firms Stanley Leisure.

Now it has taken English Harbour and Nine.com with their subsidiary casinos and sportsbooks.

Alastair Assheton is a good, professional guy.

PS BTW one of the interesting things in the latest press release is almost an admission that Odds On belongs to English Harbour as has been suspected by players for many years. The release refers to English Harbour and its "proprietary" software, which is the Vegas Technology upgrade from Odds On.

 

[thelawnet]

I haven't had the time to fully look into the Slots.com situation yet. I've been more or less away from full work days for over a week and I have a lot of shit to do. If there are problems with the Main Street Group, then this is the time to bring it on. They have been listed at a couple of other popular sites for months, and virtually no one has had any problem with them past or present. Then this is the time to bring them on (like I mentioned above).

I have read that MSG ripped off a lot of Danish players a few years back. According to the reports the players were never paid.

I am not sure if this is what sirius is referring to.

Was this ever sorted out?

 

[The Dude]

I have read that MSG ripped off a lot of Danish players a few years back. According to the reports the players were never paid.

I am not sure if this is what sirius is referring to.

Was this ever sorted out?

This was settled a couple of years ago. These players were paid.

 

[sirius]

Yes they did pay the vast majority I think although apparently some couldn't be contacted. I even took them off the dumped section of my site temporarily. The only reason they paid was due to pressure when the owner bought theRX site. They kept the money for two years and would have gained up to 10% interest but the players did not receive any interest. I also doubt the much effort was put into paying every player and fairly resolving it by paying something extra even if it was just the interest so I dumped them again.

Rudepete, I would rather you said the reason you didn't like the site but it's maybe becasue I haven't had the time to work on it as much as I would like! There is a casino directory that needs updating. I will be working on the directory script to make it easy to update it all and there will be a true history for each casino listed as it will keep track of any historical changes and you will be able to find out everything about each casino. Having said that, visitors and revenue have been increasing each month (last month was the biggest revenue yet and I get more visitors now than ever before through search engines). I've given away nearly $4000 in the prize draw. 20% of the revenue goes to the forum members. At the moment I'm working on a feature so the forum members can keep track of all their casinos they've joined through the directory and keep track of balances and you can specify a daily loss limit and it helps make sure you don't exceed your spending limit playing online.

If your are the person from Southfield, Michigan who clicked from this thread, then you only visited the front page (at 800x600 which is not the best- better at 1024x768). If that's you (there were other visitors from Michigan though), then it wasn't the first time you visited as you found one of the forum pages seaching for 'new rtg casinos' a couple of weeks on yahoo. Also, there was someone from the same place and same ISP and area code but different computer searching for planet luck casino about a day ago which could have been you too (maybe you didn't like that I'd dumped them?)? Clever isn't it lol. You haven't visited any of the main parts of the site which you can easily get to through the forum pages.

The only reason I really started this thread was to find out about Fire and Ice Casino and Hot Pepper Casino which I still have no clue about (I sometimes ramble on a bit). Bryan, how about telling us about the operators and what they used to do regarding casinos they used to be involved with? You are saying you've known them for a number of years but I must have missed the info or is it supposed to be a secret?

 

[sirius]

double posted somehow

 

[rudepete]

Nope wasn't me.

Rudepete, I would rather you said the reason you didn't like the site but it's maybe becasue I haven't had the time to work on it as much as I would like! There is a casino directory that needs updating. I will be working on the directory script to make it easy to update it all and there will be a true history for each casino listed as it will keep track of any historical changes and you will be able to find out everything about each casino. Having said that, visitors and revenue have been increasing each month (last month was the biggest revenue yet and I get more visitors now than ever before through search engines). I've given away nearly $4000 in the prize draw. 20% of the revenue goes to the forum members. At the moment I'm working on a feature so the forum members can keep track of all their casinos they've joined through the directory and keep track of balances and you can specify a daily loss limit and it helps make sure you don't exceed your spending limit playing online.

If your are the person from Southfield, Michigan who clicked from this thread, then you only visited the front page (at 800x600 which is not the best- better at 1024x768). If that's you (there were other visitors from Michigan though), then it wasn't the first time you visited as you found one of the forum pages seaching for 'new rtg casinos' a couple of weeks on yahoo. Also, there was someone from the same place and same ISP and area code but different computer searching for planet luck casino about a day ago which could have been you too (maybe you didn't like that I'd dumped them?)? Clever isn't it lol. You haven't visited any of the main parts of the site which you can easily get to through the forum pages.

Nope wasn't me, I visited once when I was reading this forum and heard Casinomeister mention yours,so I thought I would check yours out. Sorry, not for me. I have belonged to many forums for many years. I go all the way back to My Casino Opinions, if anyone remembers that. But I am loyal to here because I like the way it is set up. I like most of the intelligent answers I get here and I have played at the accredited casinos and like most of them.The thing I didn't like is what I quoted from your site and that was where you said you were the best watchdog site around. There I differ with you.

 

[jetset]

Bryan, I think you should send Sirius an invoice for all the free marketing he's been getting on this thread LOL!

 

[Webzcas]

Hmm, I am feeling I should leave well alone and not weigh in on this thread and keep quiet seeing as this doesn't affect me. But like an itch you have to scratch , I may as well add my 2 cents for what it is worth.

This thread shouldn't be about criticising portals whoever they are run by and seems to have been derailed a bit. That said the opening post should not have been written in the way it was, whereby it seemed that Sirius was coming across as if he was telling CM how to run his site. No offence Sirius and I am sure there was none intended but it did appear a tad Holier than Thou, if you get my drift.

 

[The Dude]

The only reason I really started this thread was to find out about Fire and Ice Casino and Hot Pepper Casino which I still have no clue about (I sometimes ramble on a bit). Bryan, how about telling us about the operators and what they used to do regarding casinos they used to be involved with? You are saying you've known them for a number of years but I must have missed the info or is it supposed to be a secret?

Ha ha! Yes - you guessed it! It's a secret! Shhh! Don't tell.

I tell you what, since you are operating the "only true casino watchdog site online" you tell me. If you were so up to snuff on everything, why are you asking me?

 

[The Dude]

To save you the trouble, it's run by some of the people who used to run Casinocoins.

 

[rudepete]

YEP

AMEN TO THAT.............................:notworthy

 

[paul1]

If your are the person from Southfield, Michigan who clicked from this thread, then you only visited the front page (at 800x600 which is not the best- better at 1024x768). If that's you (there were other visitors from Michigan though), then it wasn't the first time you visited as you found one of the forum pages seaching for 'new rtg casinos' a couple of weeks on yahoo. Also, there was someone from the same place and same ISP and area code but different computer searching for planet luck casino about a day ago which could have been you too (maybe you didn't like that I'd dumped them?)? Clever isn't it lol. You haven't visited any of the main parts of the site which you can easily get to through the forum pages.

Jesus. I looked at your site too, Sirius. Can you tell what color underwear I'm wearing? lol

Next time I'll be sure to comb my hair and shave.

 

[amandajm]

Oh no Sirius. Attending conferences and trade shows in any field does not equate to the fostering of flawed insight of reality.

Percentagewise, the whites of their eyes will tell the truth, regardless of the wording, alot more than email, phone or generic sign up form. A crook has you captured by email for a lot longer than the direct question in person.

The bi-product of networking and deal making face to face can only serve the player better. We don't and likely can't agree with everything Bryan says and does.

I learned more about seo by hunting down a seo expert at a conference face to face, than I ever could by any other means imo. The mere fact of me turning up to hunt out 1 individual, meant more to him than any amount of positive bluster on a forum.

I don't advocate so much, visiting "the office", or "dialing" that number. The offering of tea and cake mean nothing in ones own domain to me either. The conference is as nuetral as one can get, surely.

Bryan attending conferences cannot equate to him being easier fooled. No sir.

 

[sirius]

Rudepete, did you know MyCasinoOpinions was run by IglobalMedia (of Planet Poker, Starluck and PartyPoker) but they took it off the web. It had thousands of player reviews on it but it's all gone now. It's a shame they got rid of all those reviews. By the way, my site only quite recently said that but I've always had lots of links to Casinomeister (on the front page and all the forum pages) and say that it is among the best for casino information although I don't always agree with all the casinos on it. I've been posting here since 1999. I'm sure Casinomeister has had quite a few signups through my site. I don't have many links to other sites. The links to casinomeister and wizardofodds all leak my pagerank (technical thing with google) because I don't get proper return links so I may stop sending pagerank to them soon but keep the links. Wizardofodds got rid of my link when he updated his site some time ago but it was only in the directory which doesn't really count. Not sure what happened to the Casinomeister link directory either.

Paul1, the least said about your underwear the better lol. Most web servers keep logs of visitor's IP addresses (so you can find where visitors are from) and also log the pages they visited from (so I can see if someone visits form a link on this site) and your browser also gives the server info such as your operating system and screen resolution. Simple tracking software usually just uses those logs. It best to use javascript tracking software too for realtime tracking as that gives extra info such as exit pages and allows cookies for each computer in case the IP changes between visits. It's nothing special but lets you see the number of people visiting each page and how they got there and how long they stay on the site so you can try and improve it.

Casinomeister, casinocoins was the affiliate program for English Harbour Group even when they were Microgaming before they joined OddsOn. There have been quite a few oddson casinos that opened that all closed quite quickly. There was one called vegasplayerscasino.com a few years ago and many others. Their press release was a bit similar to Fire and Ice's and talked about rivalling Vegas. It's a bit over the top, really. Fire and Ice said in their press release from a month ago (not sure they'd have any players if they had just opened): "I have been told by many existing players that Fire and Ice Casino is one of the few casino sites that can match the bright lights of Vegas. I feel proud when I hear this." and "Fire and Ice casino offers a prestige and glamour that has yet attained to date in the online casino industry."

 

[sirius]

Oh no Sirius. Attending conferences and trade shows in any field does not equate to the fostering of flawed insight of reality.

Percentagewise, the whites of their eyes will tell the truth, regardless of the wording, alot more than email, phone or generic sign up form. A crook has you captured by email for a lot longer than the direct question in person.

The bi-product of networking and deal making face to face can only serve the player better. We don't and likely can't agree with everything Bryan says and does.

I learned more about seo by hunting down a seo expert at a conference face to face, than I ever could by any other means imo. The mere fact of me turning up to hunt out 1 individual, meant more to him than any amount of positive bluster on a forum.

I don't advocate so much, visiting "the office", or "dialing" that number. The offering of tea and cake mean nothing in ones own domain to me either. The conference is as nuetral as one can get, surely.

Bryan attending conferences cannot equate to him being easier fooled. No sir.

I didn't word it well but I meant that Casinomeister in most cases meets the casino representatives before adding them to his site so they are basically meeting for an advertising deal. Most of the time they are employees doing their job and may exaggerate here and there to get the deal and both sides are happy. It's a bit like when you go to a mortgage broker. They want to give you the highest mortgage so they may encourage you to inflate your earnings etc. to help you with the application. It is a lot different to meeting people for simple questions where you are not trying to get anything out of it. The ICE show is coming up again soon so I will be there walking around. Last year I only spent a couple of hours there on one of the last days because I had flu.

 

[paul1]

Rudepete, did you know MyCasinoOpinions was run by IglobalMedia (of Planet Poker, Starluck and PartyPoker) but they took it off the web.

Think you meant "Planet Luck", not Planet Poker.

Hey Sirius, I don't want to hijack this thread (I do that frequently ) but in your next post you mention getting the flu. I used to get sick all the time but now I never get sick. Really. I haven't been sick in years. I've got a "secret" remedy. If you want to know maybe send me a message or maybe I can say it in the wild card section or something. Don't waste down time with colds and flu. You need to stay well so you can enjoy gambling and losing your money.

 

[The Dude]

I didn't word it well but I meant that Casinomeister in most cases meets the casino representatives before adding them to his site so they are basically meeting for an advertising deal. Most of the time they are employees doing their job and may exaggerate here and there to get the deal and both sides are happy...

What is this? How do you know what I do and how I meet with people? I rarely have sat down and made "advertising deals". Most of the time I meet with operators, we talk about casino operations and industry related topics. If the casino operator wants to come on board, I make it clear what is expected - any advertising deals are made usually at a later date. Exaggerating employees? C'mon, don't make me look like some putz.

I just got back from Nice, and no deals were made with anyone. I attend conferences mainly to collect information - it's not some whoring session that you seem to think goes on.

Is it me, or am I getting a bit of grief in this thread? I'd appreciate it if you'd allow me to focus on pertinent issues at the moment instead of causing me to invest so much time in this thread. I've got a lot of shit to do. Thanks!

 

[amandajm]

It is you. Sirius is giving you grief somewhat, because you are the Casinomeister and not some unknown entity.

I can name on 2 hands where people can go for help with payment issues. Most casino gamblers could'nt name one. Of those that could name only 1, most of those would name this site.

I hope you enjoy your job for the most part. It has taken a long time to get the word out.

 

[rudepete]

Yep Sir

Rudepete, did you know MyCasinoOpinions was run by IglobalMedia (of Planet Poker, Starluck and PartyPoker) but they took it off the web. It had thousands of player reviews on it but it's all gone now. It's a shame they got rid of all those reviews. By the way, my site only quite recently said that but I've always had lots of links to Casinomeister (on the front page and all the forum pages) and say that it is among the best for casino information although I don't always agree with all the casinos on it. I've been posting here since 1999. I'm sure Casinomeister has had quite a few signups through my site. I don't have many links to other sites. The links to casinomeister and wizardofodds all leak my pagerank (technical thing with google) because I don't get proper return links so I may stop sending pagerank to them soon but keep the links. Wizardofodds got rid of my link when he updated his site some time ago but it was only in the directory which doesn't really count. Not sure what happened to the Casinomeister link directory either.

Paul1, the least said about your underwear the better lol. Most web servers keep logs of visitor's IP addresses (so you can find where visitors are from) and also log the pages they visited from (so I can see if someone visits form a link on this site) and your browser also gives the server info such as your operating system and screen resolution. Simple tracking software usually just uses those logs. It best to use javascript tracking software too for realtime tracking as that gives extra info such as exit pages and allows cookies for each computer in case the IP changes between visits. It's nothing special but lets you see the number of people visiting each page and how they got there and how long they stay on the site so you can try and improve it.

Casinomeister, casinocoins was the affiliate program for English Harbour Group even when they were Microgaming before they joined OddsOn. There have been quite a few oddson casinos that opened that all closed quite quickly. There was one called vegasplayerscasino.com a few years ago and many others. Their press release was a bit similar to Fire and Ice's and talked about rivalling Vegas. It's a bit over the top, really. Fire and Ice said in their press release from a month ago (not sure they'd have any players if they had just opened): "I have been told by many existing players that Fire and Ice Casino is one of the few casino sites that can match the bright lights of Vegas. I feel proud when I hear this." and "Fire and Ice casino offers a prestige and glamour that has yet attained to date in the online casino industry."

Well How do I say this in a very professional and honest way.

Darn, I can't think of any way.

Yes, I knew My Casino Opinions were owned by IGlobalMedia and I used to have a ball there posting and talking with other gamblers and disagreeing with other members also. It was a great place and for all the posts and actions I did on that site, I got free money every month or so in my Starluck account. I have been playing there for a very long time.
You really scared me off when you tried to pin me down about where I lived,so on and so forth. Are you that registered sex offender I just found out lives in my neighborhood. ONLY KIDDING>>>>>>>>> ONLY KIDDING
I am just trying to lighten this up.
I think any forum that lets other forums promote their site by allowing them to post it, is okay in my book. You all better hope Bryan doesn't take that away.
I have been to other's sites that people have posted here and have joined. You set me off thus I don't want to be part of yours. OK enough said.
I hope you have a great Thanksgiving as I wish all the other members here.

 

[Webzcas]

If your are the person from Southfield, Michigan who clicked from this thread

I think it is in really poor taste and a major misjudgement on your part Sirius to actually start making information from your weblogs, public knowledge on what is a private but yet publically accessible Internet Forum. If RudePete was the visitor from Southfield, Michigan as you presumed, you have just given away his location to everyone who views this thread. A big no no in my book, regardless whether he has it in his profile or not - This is something you should just not do.

I run several websites and a couple of forums, one in particular ( Not Gambling Related ) is very popular with other 250,000 posts combined over the three versions of the forum. I would never ever put the contents or parts of my weblogs into the public domain. To be honest I don't know of any responsible webmaster who would.

 

[The Dude]

I think it is in really poor taste and a major misjudgement on your part Sirius to actually start making information from your weblogs, public knowledge on what is a private but yet publically accessible Internet Forum. If RudePete was the visitor from Southfield, Michigan as you presumed, you have just given away his location to everyone who views this thread. A big no no in my book, regardless whether he has it in his profile or not - This is something you should just not do.

I run several websites and a couple of forums, one in particular ( Not Gambling Related ) is very popular with other 250,000 posts combined over the three versions of the forum. I would never ever put the contents or parts of my weblogs into the public domain. To be honest I don't know of any responsible webmaster who would.

Ditto, I feel that this information was provided in poor judgement and taste.

 

[sirius]

I honestly didn't think mentioning Southfield would be an issue and it would be no problem removing it from the post if it was (although now it's been quoted a few times). Some forums publically post IP addresses so the location would be viewable by anyone. I remember when Casinomeister showed IP addresses publically with the old forum software at times which meant every poster's location was given away.

Rudepete, sorry if I scared you off but didn't mean any offence. You already have your age and state in his profile publically viewable. If you viewed just the first page of my site (and possibly saw two other pages through search engines in the last couple of weeks) then that is what I was pointing out after you replied to this thread. This thread was in fact nothing to do with my site in the first place despite what some people think when they brought it up. Casinomeister has removed my signature privileges for some reason but my site has nothing to do with my posts here at all! You should look back over my posts from before I even had the site or before I even put a signature in my profile. I prefer not having the signature in my profile if this is going to happen whenever I post. Incidentally, I've always had links to Casinomeister and Wizardofodds on thousands of my pages now and I didn't even ask for return links until long afterwards which were added to a directory page which I don't think exists any more on Casinomeister (or at least is hard to find) and doesn't count for much. Casinomeister told me he has to meet with the webmasters before putting the proper links up which I didn't have a problem with. I didn't care much whether the links were exchanged, it didn't stop me putting the links up. I have been posting here probably longer than anyone else that currently still posts. When Winneronline was more popular I still posted here just as much as Winneronline.

 

[rudepete]

ENOUGH SAID

I have had enough now, and although my name is Rudepete, I am the farthest thing from rude you will find. No, again, I don't live in Southfield. actually no where near, but that isn't for you to be posting. I don't care if anyone knows where I live, IF I GIVE OUT THAT INFO.
I am from St. Clair Michigan and proud of it. So anyone want to visit just let me know.
Pete

 

[The Dude]

... Casinomeister has removed my signature privileges for some reason but my site has nothing to do with my posts here at all! ...

Hi Sirius,

You need to clean out your PM box. I PMd you earlier about this, but your box is full. I'm emailing you instead.

 

[sirius]

I think it is in really poor taste and a major misjudgement on your part Sirius to actually start making information from your weblogs, public knowledge on what is a private but yet publically accessible Internet Forum. If RudePete was the visitor from Southfield, Michigan as you presumed, you have just given away his location to everyone who views this thread. A big no no in my book, regardless whether he has it in his profile or not - This is something you should just not do.

I run several websites and a couple of forums, one in particular ( Not Gambling Related ) is very popular with other 250,000 posts combined over the three versions of the forum. I would never ever put the contents or parts of my weblogs into the public domain. To be honest I don't know of any responsible webmaster who would.

I am not going through this again in particular as I already replied. I was just commenting on his visits to my site in response to what he said about it although I should have done it in a PM. There were others from Michigan too so wasn't sure which was him and was trying to find out. You talk about being a responsible webmaster but why did you want to swap links on my homepage and forums but then remove them later without telling me? I have your links on thousands of my pages and I've only just noticed that you removed mine without telling me. I also noticed that you and Casinomeister gave me negative 'reputation points' within minutes of each other (which was probably just a coincidence) on this forum so now I have a stupid red mark next to my name!

I've also been informed by someone that Casinomeister removed his links page (I couldn't find it either) which contained links to hundreds of sites which linked to Casinomeister on their homepage. Casinomeister should obviously give some sort of notice for doing this. If you did announce it, I didn't hear about it and I visit quite often. Do you want these webmasters to remove your links too (which were much more valuable than the directory links they had in return)? Webmasters took the trouble to link to Casinomeister from their homepages to get the links in the link directory but you didn't even bother announcing it well enough when you removed their links.

To make it clear what this message is about, I am just asking Casinomeister what happened to his links page and if it has been removed (when?) what he wants all those webmasters to do now with his 'return' links?

 

[sirius]

Just to make it clear, I am also asking webzcas when and why he removed the links he had to my site on his homepage and forum pages after asking me to add his links to my pages in return. I still have his links on all my pages. I don't swap links as a rule but do occasionally.

 

[The Dude]

...I've also been informed by someone that Casinomeister removed his links page (I couldn't find it either) which contained links to hundreds of sites which linked to Casinomeister on their homepage. Casinomeister should obviously give some sort of notice for doing this. If you did announce it, I didn't hear about it and I visit quite often. Do you want these webmasters to remove your links too (which were much more valuable than the directory links they had in return)? Webmasters took the trouble to link to Casinomeister from their homepages to get the links in the link directory but you didn't even bother announcing it well enough when you removed their links.

To make it clear what this message is about, I am just asking Casinomeister what happened to his links page and if it has been removed (when?) what he wants all those webmasters to do now with his 'return' links?

Hi sirius,

The "links" page was not included in the relaunching of the site over two years ago. The reason for this was that too many man-hours were used to upkeep the page. It was extremely time consuming to revisit these sites to see if they were still around or if there was indeed a link to Casinomeister posted there. Each one of these webmasters was given an ad spot in the newsletter which are all archived so the links are still here. I didn't think about making any announcement since that link page hardly received any traffic whatsoever.

Here is a question for you: why are you trying to be so damn annoying? Each one of your questions has a solid legitimate answer, and each one of these questions could have been emailed or PMd. To constantly badger me in my own forum doesn't sit well - especially when you have your own site to run. I find it rather unprofessional and tactless.

 

[sirius]

Don't you think I'd be annoyed by the stupid red mark next to my name due to you and webzcas giving me some negative points? I don't think there is anyone who posts here who has posted longer than me at this site.

I'm still waiting to hear from webzcas to find out why he removed my links without telling me. This must have been some months after emailing me to ask me to add his links on mine which I did (I only have links to very few sites).

I thought the reason I brought it up here was obvious as he was the one chipping in and implying I wasn't a responsible webmaster without any thought to what he had done.

 

[The Dude]

Don't you think I'd be annoyed by the stupid red mark next to my name due to you and webzcas giving me some negative points? I don't think there is anyone who posts here who has posted longer than me at this site..

If you don't like the fact that I feel that many of your posts are misguided jabs at me and this site - TS. Old timer or not, you need to get a handle on how you post here.

I'm still waiting to hear from webzcas to find out why he removed my links without telling me. This must have been some months after emailing me to ask me to add his links on mine which I did (I only have links to very few sites).

I thought the reason I brought it up here was obvious as he was the one chipping in and implying I wasn't a responsible webmaster without any thought to what he had done.

Then this is between you and Webcaz. Keep it to emails or PMs. Thank you.

 

[Webzcas]

Sirius check your inbox.