Venetian, Macau

[Simmo!]

Anyone been to the new Venetian in Macau yet? Was it Chuchu who said he was going down? Dying to here what it's like

[lojo]

Me too!!! When are you going Simmo?

[NASHVEGAS]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Anyone been to the new Venetian in Macau yet? Was it Chuchu who said he was going down? Dying to here what it's like

The Wizard of Odds just had a review of his recent trip to Macau in his lastest e-mailed newsletter I recieve (click the link below for the pics in the 9-12-2007 newsletter that do not appear but are referenced in this post) and he also states in the newletter below he has a new site-WizardOfMacua.com with more pics,etc.,enjoy:

If the newsletter doesn't appear properly (or doesn't appear at all), you can read it on the web at http://WizardOfOdds.com/newsletters/2007-09-12.html The Wizard's News

September 12, 2007
WizardOfOdds.com


Macau photos


The Tin Hau temple



From left to right: My brother in law Chen Tao, my friend and business partner Michael Bluejay, and myself, having an authentic vegetarian dinner. Bluejay is the only authentic vegetarian, though.



Girls modeling cell phones in Senado Square.



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Please see lots more Macau photos on my new site, WizardOfMacau.com.

From the Wizard....
The full scoop on Macau, China
I recently returned from eight days in Macau. While I could talk about it all day, and I do so on my new web site WizardOfMacau.com, this article will just cover the basics about what you should know about Macau, and the gambling scene there.
Very briefly, Macau is a small "Special Administrative Region" or SAR, in China, a one-hour ferry ride from Hong Kong. The city contains about 25 casinos, many of which are very small and not worth visiting. Games easily found in Macau are baccarat, blackjack, roulette, sic bo, and Caribbean Stud Poker. A smaller number of fan-fan, pai gow, maj jong pai gow, craps, poker, and Casino War games are also available. Slots and video poker also exist, but not nearly as abundantly as in the United States.

Here are the pros and cons of Macau, in my humble opinion.

Pros of Macau
1. Very good eating. In Macau you will find plenty of delicious and authentic Chinese food, not to mention a lesser amount of Portuguese and other types of cuisine. All things considered, I would take Macau over Las Vegas in terms of food, if I had to make the choice.

2. Cheap prices. Compared to the U.S., everything seemed to be significantly cheaper in Macau, especially food, rooms, cab fare, and tips.

3. Good blackjack rules at the Lisboa. They have some very unusual blackjack rules at the Lisboa, but the bottom line is a house edge of 0.01% with proper strategy.

4. Low table minimums. The usual table minimum is 100 Hong Kong dollars, which is about $13 U.S.. These are not just token tables that are usually packed, but are the standard and are readily available. Forget what you may have seen in the movies. When Stanley Ho's casino monopoly ended in 2002, lots of new casinos opened, creating better conditions for the player.

5. Dead Chip offers. If you are a high-limit baccarat player, the high-limit rooms in Macau offer "dead chip" programs, which are similar to point-based slot programs. Using promotional chips, the casinos effectively give back 0.4% to 0.7% of all bets lost. At a rate of 0.5%, for example, the house edge on the banker bet in baccarat is lowered from 1.06% to 0.84%.

5. Proximity to Hong Kong. Macau is a short and very convenient ferry ride from Hong Kong. The Hong Kong terminus is right in the center of the city, and the Macau terminal is also well located, with free shuttle buses to all the major casinos. Hong Kong is an exciting city with lots of things to do. Combining Hong Kong and Macau makes for a great trip to east Asia. If you have more time, Guilin, in mainland China, is one of the most beautiful cities I have ever been to.

Cons of Macau
1. Macau people are very rude. The drivers never stop for pedestrians, even in a crosswalk. The dealers seldom speak, not even to say hello or good-bye. Except in the nicest of tourist-oriented businesses, it seems like nobody wants to be bothered.

2. English is not widely spoken. The only places I could reliably find anybody to speak English with was at the Wynn, and there it usually far from fluent, and at the poker tables at the StarWorld, mainly with Australian expatriates. I was there before the Venetian opening, but I would imagine the English there is on par with the Wynn. You will have much more success communicating in English with the locals in Hong Kong.

3. There are almost no advantage plays I could detect. Some properties will give you 30 to 50 Hong Kong dollars to sign up for a player card, about $4 to $5 U.S. dollars. Progressive games are popular in Macau, so progressive hunters can find a positive meter once in a while. However 100% of the blackjack is on continuous shufflers, so card counting is out of the question. The video poker there is abysmal, very little to be found, and what little there are on lousy paytables. The best I ever saw was 7/5 bonus poker at the Wynn (98.01%).

4. The big gambling is usually done in private V.I.P. casinos, through an organization called a "junket" between the player and the casino. These junkets cater to the Chinese and usually don't deal with the general public. The high limit rooms offer baccarat only. If you prefer the luxury of the high limit rooms in Vegas, in Macau you'll be stuck playing just baccarat, if you can get through the door at all.

5. There isn't much to do in Macau besides gambling and prostitution. Yes, the tourist guides will list some museums and historical sites, but the offerings are much better in Hong Kong.



All things considered, I would not go all the way to Asia just for Macau. However, if you are going to be in the area anyway, especially Hong Kong, it may be worth the side trip. All things considered, Vegas is still the best gambling city in the world, and not even Macau can compare.

[lojo]

First the Meister crushed my dream and now the Wizard... as the only reason I would go there is to experience the Casinos I guess I won't be going unless I become fabulously and immediately and extremely wealthy.

[NASHVEGAS]

Originally Posted by lojo

First the Meister crushed my dream and now the Wizard... as the only reason I would go there is to experience the Casinos I guess I won't be going unless I become fabulously and immediately and extremely wealthy.

Are saying you could not afford the prostitutes? or r u just sayin

[lojo]

Originally Posted by NASHVEGAS

Are saying you could not afford the prostitutes? or r u just sayin

I'n jes sayin

When that area started to come of age, and I was younger and dumber, I thought i could parlay and leverage and build on successes and Macau would be my ultimate runner.

But I'm better now

[chuchu59]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Anyone been to the new Venetian in Macau yet? Was it Chuchu who said he was going down? Dying to here what it's like

Havent been there yet. Still waiting for the availability of my wife. Should be to the place in a couple of weeks though.

[chuchu59]

Do not go to the Lisboa, I repeat, do not go to the Lisboa. A year ago, they were still up to their old tricks and the dealers were surprisingly rude. So many better choices elsewhere.

[spearmaster]

Which old tricks are you talking about, Chuchu?

Either way, the Lisboa isn't worth a visit if you want to play. Kinda cool to take in the atmosphere if you've never been there but I personally wouldn't spend a dime gambling.

In fact, the most interesting part of the Lisboa is the bottom floor - go find the Chinese restaurant, sit down and order a meal or just a coffee, and enjoy the spectacle known as the Racetrack.

[chuchu59]

Spear,

Sarcasm. These bloody dealers were being sarcastic about having to treat customers well. All the time, they were emphasising the good old times when they could pinch winnings from the players LEGALLY. They still do that now but are a bit restrained. You bet small and they treat you like sh##, throwing the chips right back at you after a push. It's a pity that the new casinos dont have paigow tiles so when I want some games I can only visit the floating casinos which are boring but at least they treat you like humans.