You really expect me to wager my cash 30x? TOO?

[Harry_BKK]

And more extras, like they charge you to deposit...
AND they charge you to withdraw...

KK

Not for e-wallet deposits. But yes, they do for all withdrawals, $/EUR2.50 ........hardly worth an angry face KK considering the average player loses 1000's every year.

Most casinos give you 1 free withdrawal/week, some only 1 free/month and very few 1 free/day...so no big difference between paying for most or all withdrawals. Happy to do that when they process them fast, max a few hours, which in my experience Rizk does.

 

[goatwack]

Not for e-wallet deposits. But yes, they do for all withdrawals, $/EUR2.50 ........hardly worth an angry face KK considering the average player loses 1000's every year.

Most casinos give you 1 free withdrawal/week, some only 1 free/month and very few 1 free/day...so no big difference between paying for most or all withdrawals. Happy to do that when they process them fast, max a few hours, which in my experience Rizk does.

You best believe that sh*t. An angry emoticon indicates business!

You have been warned!!

 

[interlog]

Not for e-wallet deposits. But yes, they do for all withdrawals, $/EUR2.50 ........hardly worth an angry face KK considering the average player loses 1000's every year.

Most casinos give you 1 free withdrawal/week, some only 1 free/month and very few 1 free/day...so no big difference between paying for most or all withdrawals. Happy to do that when they process them fast, max a few hours, which in my experience Rizk does.

a 2.5% fee for deposits is way too hefty at Rizk. It works out in the £100's a year for what? It doesn't cost them that in processing the payments. Their loss because they won't see a penny off me until they don't charge for deposits with debit cards.

 

[bigbear]

Got to agree with all the positive comments about Leo Vegas.Not only do they have very fair wagering at bx35 and the fact that you can withdraw provided that you have not dipped into bonus funds but they all include almost all slots at 100%.Nothing worse than having to constantly refer to t&c's to find out which slots have a reduced wagering percentage or are excluded altogether.They also seem to be one of the few casinos that do not impose a time limit to complete wagering which for me is a big plus.
Now if only someone could explain how their VIP programme works.............

 

[chris87]

Now if only someone could explain how their VIP programme works.............

Yes, does anyone know?? I'm at level 30, what does this give me? If anything?

As for the D+B debate, I do take the 80% bonuses at Casumo as a rule as you can withdraw early if you get a big win. However to avoid forfeiting some of the bonus, the wagering requirement is a lot. As you play the bonus is released into your withdrawal cash in bits, but, any winnings are placed 50% into real cash and 50% into the bonus pot I believe. In my view, any winnings from real cash should be added to the real cash withdrawal balance. Also, I don't like the deposit fee (2.5%) but all withdrawals are free and unlimited.

By far the worst D+B wagering requirement is at Energy Casino in my opinion. I think it's 30x D+B, which is harsh on the weekly 50% deposit bonus offer, but may be just about worth it on a 100% bonus. No deposit fees here and you're allowed one free withdrawal per week.

Best bonuses for me are bonus wagering only x30 max such as 32Red. I do also like the get out early if you win with your real cash schemes such as at Royal Panda and Leo Vegas too.

I think the days when you'd get a sub at 1x wagering requirement such as at Grosvenor or Betfred in the old days are long gone!

Chris

 

[bigbear]

Grosvenor used to offer the best bonus around,at least for VIP clients.It was quite some time ago,but I think it was a monthly 100% match up to £250 with a 1x playthrough and all games,including blackjack contributing 100% towards wagering.There was not a single month when I did not make a profit and must have been exploited mercilessly by savvy BJ players.

 

[azzagirt]

You live and learn.

Rule 1 for bonus play: Bonuses are for the benefit of the casino, not the player!
Rule 2: READ ALL T&C's (no matter how well hidden) before taking a bonus
Rule 3: Avoid bonuses whenever you can.

This is why I stopped taking a bonus at Jackpot City with their new bonus feature you have to take it on all deposits after the first one in that same session. I argued with them and said I only agreed to take first bonus ( say 100%) not every other one you make me take ( usually 25%) with each new top up that session. Seems you could never make wagering playthrough if your always on a bonus even when you bust out back to zilch they top you up new bonus next deposit. No thanks. No more bonuses for me there.

 

[LHofsdal]

Since thread started about Vegas Crest Casino, I thought I would put this post here being it is about their sister site.


Vegas Crest has a sister bingo site, and they have now started a new bonus system. They now offer what is called a "Universal Bonus". Before your bonus monies could only be used on bingo, and a few "Bonus Only" mini slots.

Now here are the terms of this "Universal Bonus"-

The wagering requirement is based on the amount of bonus you receive and the size of your deposit when you claimed the bonus. To meet the requirement, you need to wager 3 times (3x) the sum of the deposit plus bonus in the Bingo before you can withdraw the bonus and the winnings.

Playing Casino games also contributes to the wagering requirement but with a different contribution for each category of game. Please refer to our Bonus Terms for complete details.

Now here are the sites bonus terms-

Registration Promotions are considered to be a no-deposit bonus that is subject to a minimum wagering requirement of 99 times (99x) their value. Once the wagering requirement is met, any winnings derived from Registration Promotions may be withdrawn up to a limit of $100.

2.Funding Bonuses will be credited to your account automatically and respectively provided that you have selected to receive a bonus by specifically selecting the ''Universal Bonus'' or ''Bingo Bonus'' option during the funding process. You will be automatically credited the highest bonus you are eligible to receive.

3.Unless otherwise stated in any specific promotion, Universal Bonuses are subject to a minimum wagering requirement of 3 times (3x) the value of the deposit plus the bonus. i.e.: if your deposit is $25 and the bonus awarded is $25, the play-through (or wagering) requirement will be $150 before any withdrawals may be made.

4.Certain games have different rules regarding the percentages that contribute towards fulfilling the wagering requirements. Wagering in any Multi-Player Bingo game contributes 100% of each wager towards decreasing the Wagering Requirement Balance. Wagering in Video Slots, Video Bingo, Chain Reactors and Keno contributes 10% and all other games 1%. As an example, every $1 wagered in our Multi-Player Bingo games will contribute in full (100%) towards the wagering requirements. On the other hand, for every $1 wagered on Video Slots, $0.10 will contribute to the wagering requirement.

5.Players may use their cash or bonus balance to reduce their Wagering Requirements.

6.Wagering requirements will be carried over from a bonus if a later bonus is redeemed before the wagering requirement of the first bonus is met and the player has funds tied to the play-through requirement in their balance.

7.All Bonuses are awarded for entertainment only and are intended for recreational players. CyberBingo reserves the right to revoke bonuses, withhold any withdrawals and/or void any unfair winnings of players deemed to be abusing or exploiting our bonus offers or who take part in any fraudulent behaviour.



There has been a lot of talk about how this group has really started going down hill, and how they are still promoting Betsoft games, and now this type of bonus. With such high wagering requirements on this bonus (because each day has a different percentage but every day has over 200% bonus that is added to every deposit unless you choose no bonus.)it's going to tough to beat. As 1 player stated to me, it would be really hard to complete this bonus on Bingo due to the fact the same 8 people seem to win just about every game in every room. (In all honesty, there is some truth to that) I was even asked if I thought it was a "Universal Bonus" or a "Trap" lol.

Not really sure what to think about this type of bonus, but curious on what other CM members think of it.

Thanks in advance,
LH

 

[hedgehok]

Yes, does anyone know?? I'm at level 30, what does this give me? If anything?

As for the D+B debate, I do take the 80% bonuses at Casumo as a rule as you can withdraw early if you get a big win. However to avoid forfeiting some of the bonus, the wagering requirement is a lot. As you play the bonus is released into your withdrawal cash in bits, but, any winnings are placed 50% into real cash and 50% into the bonus pot I believe. In my view, any winnings from real cash should be added to the real cash withdrawal balance. Also, I don't like the deposit fee (2.5%) but all withdrawals are free and unlimited.

By far the worst D+B wagering requirement is at Energy Casino in my opinion. I think it's 30x D+B, which is harsh on the weekly 50% deposit bonus offer, but may be just about worth it on a 100% bonus. No deposit fees here and you're allowed one free withdrawal per week.

Best bonuses for me are bonus wagering only x30 max such as 32Red. I do also like the get out early if you win with your real cash schemes such as at Royal Panda and Leo Vegas too.

I think the days when you'd get a sub at 1x wagering requirement such as at Grosvenor or Betfred in the old days are long gone!

Chris

I started to get higher match bonuses and higher value free spins at LeoVegas at around level 40. Not sure if these offers are related to level or deposit volume though.

As to casumos bonus system. If you take an 80% bonus your winnings will be credited at 5/9th as cash and 4/9 as bonus. So if you hit a balance of €1,000 you have €556 cash and €444 bonus.

 

[colinsunderland]

Vegas Crest Casino didn't even have a gaming license until a few days ago, so i would be extremely wary about playing there full stop!

 

[chris87]

I started to get higher match bonuses and higher value free spins at LeoVegas at around level 40. Not sure if these offers are related to level or deposit volume though.

As to casumos bonus system. If you take an 80% bonus your winnings will be credited at 5/9th as cash and 4/9 as bonus. So if you hit a balance of €1,000 you have €556 cash and €444 bonus.

Thanks for that. (I'll let you know when I get to level 40!)

Funnily enough I had a phone call from LeoVegas this afternoon offering me free spins and a 50% deposit bonus as a VIP, which I wasn't aware I was, but nice of them to call.

Mind you I have lost quite a bit there recently. I'm ashamed to tell what game, but it's based on an animal with one horn on its head!

Chris

 

[bigbear]

I had a similar phone call but mine was a 100% deposit match.I have got to level 41 on the VIP ladder so I am guessing the higher you go,the better the offers you receive.Maybe if LeoVegas have an active rep on the forum then he/she could clarify how the system works.