Yggdrasil fake games

donpedro

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I think, all yggdrasil gamed are fake, the same as nettent games. And if you playing both that games you can see how the game runs..and it runs on the same type ..gives payout...than immedialty takes ...10-20 ...even more empty spins
 
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donpedro

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Yggdrasil

Many many times on Holmes collecting 4 stones...but why we cant get 5 th? How do you think why if game are so fair and RNG???
 

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Slots aren't random it may have RNG which is a random number generator but they sure aren't random i think that is were people get confused because it has the word random in it, I don't play yggdrasil slots because they don't have them were i play so i don't know what slot you are talking about sorry, I think if i was to play one of their slots it would been the vikings slots with the sticky wilds.
 

lockinlove

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Yeah some of their games are weighted thats why. Its the same for vikings go rigged. You get close to berserk and then the rtp turns way down sucking your money quite terribly. Seems the same for stones as I have noticed it very tough to get the 5th and usually drains you for a bit before it spits it out.

It doesnt mean you cant win big. Its just whether it chooses its your lucky time or not :eek2:
 

lotusch

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I see more and more people bump their heads against the stone cold slots from Ygdrassil.. ;):D
Just stay away from them, they ain't worth playing unless you have a super sized bankroll and can afford to lose a couple of thousands first before you get anything back..
 

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this should be merged with the holmes yggdrasil thread.

but what is this about the rtp getting changed? that sounds really strange and idon't think that happens.
what might be the case is like with the holmes game the last whatever-u-need is (way) harder to get
than the items before.

i yhink yggdrasil is worse then netent, with the exception of maybe the dragon slot and the monkey slot.
in general the free games are way too hard to trigger and the return doesn't make up for it.

they LOOK and SOUND really good though. feels almost like mediation playing them.
u meditate and ur guru is Yggdrasil, keeping his tree hands wide open
 

TheAddict

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this should be merged with the holmes yggdrasil thread.

but what is this about the rtp getting changed? that sounds really strange and idon't think that happens.
what might be the case is like with the holmes game the last whatever-u-need is (way) harder to get
than the items before.

i yhink yggdrasil is worse then netent, with the exception of maybe the dragon slot and the monkey slot.
in general the free games are way too hard to trigger and the return doesn't make up for it.

they LOOK and SOUND really good though. feels almost like mediation playing them.
u meditate and ur guru is Yggdrasil, keeping his tree hands wide open

Just curious, but this holmes game playing in a way that the last -whatever you need- is way harder to get, and presumably alike with vikings go wild... isnt there some sort of info in the paytable stating something to explain this? if it be something simple as 'the odds of obtaining the final symbol(s) required to enter the feature with the highest paying potential are increased' . Or does either of these games restore previous sessions if you deposit the following day and continue the game and not reset the progress already achieved?
If neither, then this spunkdrizzle of a provider can kiss my perky white arse before they get 1p out of me, surely low rollers would get eaten alive in the long run if they were unaware and only ever made small deposits :confused:
 

lockinlove

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this should be merged with the holmes yggdrasil thread.

but what is this about the rtp getting changed? that sounds really strange and idon't think that happens.
what might be the case is like with the holmes game the last whatever-u-need is (way) harder to get
than the items before.

i yhink yggdrasil is worse then netent, with the exception of maybe the dragon slot and the monkey slot.
in general the free games are way too hard to trigger and the return doesn't make up for it.

they LOOK and SOUND really good though. feels almost like mediation playing them.
u meditate and ur guru is Yggdrasil, keeping his tree hands wide open

Well call it whatever you want....weighted, decrease in rtp, rigged etc.

As can been seen in the vikings go berserk thread and others, its clear something happens when you reach a certain point on the berserk meters. Im currently trying to obtain 1 million spins on the slot and I currently sit at 267,000 spins. Alot of those are free play mind you but that shouldnt matter since the casinos claim they play the same. And every single time you reach 85% of the berserk meter the return to player declines dramatically. Its not just 5-25%. Its well over 50%. The chests disappear and so do the freespins or at the very least become incredibly hard to hit. The character symbols disappear too.

Im continuing on but I dont really see the point. At almost 300k spins, nothing is changing and the slot plays the same each time.
 

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Yeah some of their games are weighted thats why. Its the same for vikings go rigged. You get close to berserk and then the rtp turns way down sucking your money quite terribly. Seems the same for stones as I have noticed it very tough to get the 5th and usually drains you for a bit before it spits it out.

It doesnt mean you cant win big. Its just whether it chooses its your lucky time or not :eek2:


Yes exactly the same happened to me too a few times :(
 

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being myself italian and consequently being banned (restricted) by many other providers, I have been playing Yggdrasil games quite a lot.

over 500,000 ++ spins I must admit the RTP is aligned with the declared TRTP.

this on all Yggdrasil games I tried BUT one: Sherlock/Stones.
That game is pure evil and it should be audited IMPO.
 

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This is Holmes slot , this was my second time of playing it, the day before i had played it & lost £100 pounds could not tell you the spins played on it , this was the second time i was going to try it for another 100 quid in losses , not spins hit this , i also tried it another two days later hit the free spins on 40p bet & hit the first jackpot , 120 quid odd.
 

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orion

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This is Holmes slot , this was my second time of playing it, the day before i had played it & lost £100 pounds could not tell you the spins played on it , this was the second time i was going to try it for another 100 quid in losses , not spins hit this , i also tried it another two days later hit the free spins on 40p bet & hit the first jackpot , 120 quid odd.

so... you played this game 3 or 4 times TOTAL and you hit 2 jackpots ?
:eek:

:eek2:
 

aceking123

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Congrats. I played this game once and it decimated my balance and have never played it again although I can see the potential for wins.

Like i play all Yggdrasil slots , i play them for amounts ie 100 quid loss , this way i dont get involved chasing if it happens it happens , if i lose i just move onto another slot ,im sure i shall give it another go at some other point , my finding is you stick with them whilst their dead your going to lose , if hot just stick on them , build games are maybe different but i think i would still play the same.

they have maybe three good games , the clones seem to be poor.
 

trancemonkey

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Well call it whatever you want....weighted, decrease in rtp, rigged etc.

As can been seen in the vikings go berserk thread and others, its clear something happens when you reach a certain point on the berserk meters. Im currently trying to obtain 1 million spins on the slot and I currently sit at 267,000 spins. Alot of those are free play mind you but that shouldnt matter since the casinos claim they play the same. And every single time you reach 85% of the berserk meter the return to player declines dramatically. Its not just 5-25%. Its well over 50%. The chests disappear and so do the freespins or at the very least become incredibly hard to hit. The character symbols disappear too.

Im continuing on but I dont really see the point. At almost 300k spins, nothing is changing and the slot plays the same each time.

If this bit in bold is correct, then this would be illegal. You are not allowed (in most jurisdictions) to change the behaviour of the game based on something that has happened. Whilst you are allowed hold-overs / persistence, you are NOT allowed to alter the reel bands based on whether you have held something over or not. If they ARE doing this, then the relevant gambling commission (i.e UKGC) should be informed and a complaint lodged. It's extremely unfair, not to mention illegal, to do this and therefore extremely unlikely that they are.
 
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I don't know if its illegal or not, but the "Holmes and stolen stones" Yggdrasil game is definitely a major user of "change game behavior when close to jackpot". The sheer number of times when I have found myself in a free spins round waiting in vain for the 5th gem with 4-5 free spins left is colossal, well over 500. It's statistically impossible that you get to 4 gems almost every round in a thousand rounds, but not even once to 5 gems. It's totally out of proportion.

This would be understandable if observable Gem frequency per reel was similar to Free Spin or Bonus icons, which are much more rare and you'll practically never see 4 (or even 3) of them land on the same reel in 10 spins (and having 3 or 4 of them on screen simultaneously is extremely rare, unlike with gems which experience this frequently), but this has to be a case of taunting players with fake "near misses" that are vastly out of proportion to what you can actually see on the reel and what you are told in the rules.

If you can easily verify that each reel has a 10 to 30% of producing a gem on each spin, then it's simply out of bounds of any imaginable variance that it fails to ever produce a fifth gem on many thousands of spins that it performs in this situation. The chance of that happening is less than one in a billion. And it consistently happens at all bet sizes, from €0.20 to €4.

I will play a bit more and write down these occurrences in detail so someone can send a proper report to UKGC.
 
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BlaCGaming

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I don't know if its illegal or not, but the "Holmes and stolen stones" Yggdrasil game is definitely a major user of "change game behavior when close to jackpot". The sheer number of times when I have found myself in a free spins round waiting in vain for the 5th gem with 4-5 free spins left is colossal, well over 500. It's statistically impossible that you get to 4 gems almost every round in a thousand rounds, but not even once to 5 gems. It's totally out of proportion.

This would be understandable if observable Gem frequency per reel was similar to Free Spin or Bonus icons, which are much more rare and you'll practically never see 4 (or even 3) of them land on the same reel in 10 spins (and having 3 or 4 of them on screen simultaneously is extremely rare, unlike with gems which experience this frequently), but this has to be a case of taunting players with fake "near misses" that are vastly out of proportion to what you can actually see on the reel and what you are told in the rules.

If you can easily verify that each reel has a 10 to 30% of producing a gem on each spin, then it's simply out of bounds of any imaginable variance that it fails to ever produce a fifth gem on many thousands of spins that it performs in this situation. The chance of that happening is less than one in a billion. And it consistently happens at all bet sizes, from €0.20 to €4.

I will play a bit more and write down these occurrences in detail so someone can send a proper report to UKGC.

Couldn´t agree more, it seems that the whole free spin round is predetermined and it already decided you will get 4 gems max, so it might be random in which spins those occur, but the result is already decided. I don´t see any other explanation for this high frequency of 4 gems each free spin feature.
 

SlotGrinder

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so... you played this game 3 or 4 times TOTAL and you hit 2 jackpots ?
:eek:

:eek2:

So everyone should be saying omg it's rigged you shouldn't hit jackpots that easily... for obvious reasons players only think it's rigged when it's a case of losing "too much"

RTP of a slot isn't necessarily equal for every spin . Take the game Tower Quest . Overall RTP is 96.2% . But when you start the game and haven't filled any of the red or blue meters then the rtp will be lower . When you are about to fill the meters then the rtp of each spin will be a lot higher.

So with Vikings Go Berserk the RTP relates to if you played "infinity" spins on the game then you would receive back the RTP stated . It doesn't mean that each spin is equally likely to give you back this same RTP . The reels aren't mechanical with the same chance to hit each symbol no matter what (except for some games where this is the case) . Most slots which have special wilds in features will show you less wilds in the feature . This is not riggedness this is programmed in and constitutes part of the RTP of the game. Same with progressive slots if you have big jackpots then some of the RTP of the game goes into these jackpots so inevitably you will have a lot longer periods of running way below stated RTP and a few instances of running with a much much higher RTP (such as the guy who hit 2 jackpots in a short space of time and his actual RTP is in the 1000s % )
 
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