WT.... has happened to Fruit Warp?!

dutchyboy

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Hi all,

Just wanted to know if the players of the Thunderkick's Fruit Warp game also experience a lot more bad game outcomes than it used to give before...

Since a few weeks ago, the game was updated to version 2.7.1. From then on the game started to give lots of bad results, for example, I haven't got to the last (end) multiplier in around 400 spins. And when I get to the last spot before the last multiplier, it throws me out.

Now they updated again, version 2.8.0 i believe, and it has become even worse. The game keeps throwing me out of the bonus game as quick as possible. It made me crazy when I played today.

Any other opinions over here? I can't imagine I am the only one who is experiencing this.... they must have changed the game in my opinion!
Bad move Thunderkick, will play other games (and Fruit Warp used to be my favourite, well 100% sure it isn't my favourite right now anymore!)
 

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The only reason why someone isn't winning on a slot is because it isn't ready to pay out when that person is playing you have just been playing it when it isn't ready to pay out, The slot may not be a popular slot or it may not be as popular as it once was.

I know i have seen twitch streamers play this slot but they're only a tiny percentage of the people who play slots, Some people may have experienced what you have and gone never playing this slot again which may have lead to a decline in people playing it.

These are the only things i can say but with thousands of slots online there is going to be some slots that don't get played as much as other slots so it will take longer to see really nice wins from slots that just don't get played as much as others.
 

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The only reason why someone isn't winning on a slot is because it isn't ready to pay out when that person is playing you have just been playing it when it isn't ready to pay out, The slot may not be a popular slot or it may not be as popular as it once was.

I know i have seen twitch streamers play this slot but they're only a tiny percentage of the people who play slots, Some people may have experienced what you have and gone never playing this slot again which may have lead to a decline in people playing it.

These are the only things i can say but with thousands of slots online there is going to be some slots that don't get played as much as other slots so it will take longer to see really nice wins from slots that just don't get played as much as others.


Totally disagree with your statement. The game definitely changed. Just played another time and what I am seeing is unbelievable bad, and it keeps happening over and over.
When having a good symbol, instantly the bonus game ends without any other of the fruit you got in bonus mode.

Would like to hear some others who play this game frequently please. So before these strange updates and how do you experience this now.
 

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The only reason why someone isn't winning on a slot is because it isn't ready to pay out when that person is playing you have just been playing it when it isn't ready to pay out, The slot may not be a popular slot or it may not be as popular as it once was.

I know i have seen twitch streamers play this slot but they're only a tiny percentage of the people who play slots, Some people may have experienced what you have and gone never playing this slot again which may have lead to a decline in people playing it.

These are the only things i can say but with thousands of slots online there is going to be some slots that don't get played as much as other slots so it will take longer to see really nice wins from slots that just don't get played as much as others.

Online slots - allegedly - don't require "filling" before they pay out. You can get a 1,000x win on the very first spin after a slot has been released.

But I too have seen a difference in the game play of Fruitwarp as the OP commented. I am not the only one that has noticed this and I do believe that the variance of it has changed to make it less volatile. You get more 3 of a kind symbols in the base game than before with less well paying features.
 

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the last time this thread came up i said i had good experience on it.... however i do agree that recently (past 2 weeks maybe) it has been brutal.

What i find odd is that you can tell what is coming up.... extra life with 1 spot to go to reach the end then all i have got is double binned....
In with >5 premium symbols = straight binned

I dont buy into rigged slots idea but whatever they have changed in the updates certainly appears to have affected the payout. I am one that will definitely be leaving this game alone for a while.
 

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Online slots - allegedly - don't require "filling" before they pay out. You can get a 1,000x win on the very first spin after a slot has been released.

But I too have seen a difference in the game play of Fruitwarp as the OP commented. I am not the only one that has noticed this and I do believe that the variance of it has changed to make it less volatile. You get more 3 of a kind symbols in the base game than before with less well paying features.


I didn't say the slot needs filling, You can get a huge win of a slot at release but if not many people play the slot after that huge win then it will take a while to see the next one, There is also nothing random about slots because you wouldn't be able to put a RTP on slots if they were random it just wouldn't reach it.

The Random number generator gives a false sense that slots are random and it's does create random numbers but what them random numbers represent isn't random that is all controlled by the slot chip.

Even a popular slot like Raging Rhino can be stone cold but you see good wins on that slot regularly because it's popular so it cycles through loads of spins.
 

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I didn't say the slot needs filling, You can get a huge win of a slot at release but if not many people play the slot after that huge win then it will take a while to see the next one, There is also nothing random about slots because you wouldn't be able to put a RTP on slots if they were random it just wouldn't reach it.

The Random number generator gives a false sense that slots are random and it's does create random numbers but what them random numbers represent isn't random that is all controlled by the slot chip.

Even a popular slot like Raging Rhino can be stone cold but you see good wins on that slot regularly because it's popular so it cycles through loads of spins.

I suggest you read this topic: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/ask-me-anything-about-slots.77569/
 

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Online slots - allegedly - don't require "filling" before they pay out. You can get a 1,000x win on the very first spin after a slot has been released.

But I too have seen a difference in the game play of Fruitwarp as the OP commented. I am not the only one that has noticed this and I do believe that the variance of it has changed to make it less volatile. You get more 3 of a kind symbols in the base game than before with less well paying features.
Definitely changed. As said the 3 of a kind in base wins I think now takes away a better potential in the feature should you get it.
Not for a second do I think it's rigged, but it certainly has been tweaked since the update.
Never bother with it personally anymore, prefer a slot to look like a slot.
 

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Hi guys, thanks for confirming what I already thought!
Unfortunately I guess there won't be a Thunderkick representative to explain this. In these situations would be very welcome.

For now I also leave Fruit warp! I feel the update has made it that this game potential is gone.
Bad move Thunderkick!
 

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I actually find the returns on thunderkick slots to be absolutely brutal. Ive tried arcader alot and that one is just terrible. Takes forever to get the bonus and then almost impossible to get a good win on

But yeah fruit warp is ridiculous. Very very hard slot.

I think birds on a wire can be good ive had some good hits in battles on it but not really with real money.

I find them to be serious balance eaters though. One of the slot providers that gives out an incredible amount of dead spins.

I miss netent.
 

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New casino new deposit. Over 100 spins on this on a mere10p stake...2 teases no bonus. Another 100 on 50p stake zero teaser zero bonus...
Another!... 100 spins on £1 stake...1 tease no bonus. Tin foil hat firmly in place, this game was upgraded, ruined to the point of unplayable...
Silly x back base game wins, zero potential getting a tease win or bonus....bye the warp from me.
That's my test done and opinion learnt. What a joke these company's change is these games like this.
What's the matter?...do they play to well and give a ounce of fun to a player?...watch high rollers play it before, wasn't all roses. Watch now, what was a good game is dead. Absolute shame on the provider.
Almost makes me feel like packing in slotting, if it ain't the casino screwing you over idiotic terms it's a provider gimping a game so bad feels like the rhino that humps dunover has been on steroids and viagra.
Happier note, apart from that experience, Miami dice, are fine...no issues at all. Fab and upstanding casino.
 

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I didn't say the slot needs filling, You can get a huge win of a slot at release but if not many people play the slot after that huge win then it will take a while to see the next one, There is also nothing random about slots because you wouldn't be able to put a RTP on slots if they were random it just wouldn't reach it.

The Random number generator gives a false sense that slots are random and it's does create random numbers but what them random numbers represent isn't random that is all controlled by the slot chip.

Even a popular slot like Raging Rhino can be stone cold but you see good wins on that slot regularly because it's popular so it cycles through loads of spins.

Hey Anna

I'm afraid you couldn't be any more wrong about slots, RTP and random. Read the other thread I started which explains RTP, random and all the other conspiracy stuff you mention here.

If you don't want to, that's fine... I'll answer your post here tomorrow if you want...

It's actually quite funny that you say you can't put an RTP on a game if it's random. I've been making these for over ten years and I've managed it on every game I've made ;)
 

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Hey Anna

I'm afraid you couldn't be any more wrong about slots, RTP and random. Read the other thread I started which explains RTP, random and all the other conspiracy stuff you mention here.

If you don't want to, that's fine... I'll answer your post here tomorrow if you want...

It's actually quite funny that you say you can't put an RTP on a game if it's random. I've been making these for over ten years and I've managed it on every game I've made ;)

Any chance of hearing ur opinion on my experience this evening please?. Thanks. Regards .
 

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Youtube is full with monsterhits on Fruit Warp.
I.m.o one of the best Thunderkick games.

Haven't played it in a while so not sure whether they have "tampered" with the game play and lowered the big hits in the bonus.
I assume if the RTP % is still the same as in previous versions there should be no doubt about the fact it would still pay about the same.

I like the game and probably still give at a whirl from time to time but mostly when I am quite a lot up on my deposit as them money can go down south quickly on it.
 

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Youtube is full with monsterhits on Fruit Warp.
I.m.o one of the best Thunderkick games.

Haven't played it in a while so not sure whether they have "tampered" with the game play and lowered the big hits in the bonus.
I assume if the RTP % is still the same as in previous versions there should be no doubt about the fact it would still pay about the same.

I like the game and probably still give at a whirl from time to time but mostly when I am quite a lot up on my deposit as them money can go down south quickly on it.

I've never ever in my life moaned about a slot, but this has changed to the point of embarrassing. Seriously. Not just tonight's small loss, overall since the update. There's something 150% wrong. If at all possible I'd love to speak to a rep(granted won't happen) but I'd leave that game well alone.
It's not the same at all, why change a good thing?.. as said before loads lost big money before on it, why change it now?.
 

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Any chance of hearing ur opinion on my experience this evening please?. Thanks. Regards .

Difficult to say... again I'd be very surprised if the changed the maths of a successful game. I've never done it or heard of it being done unless there's an actual fault.

You won't believe me but I'd say it's luck (good or bad)... if you had played it tonight and won a lot more than usual, would you have said it was a maths change? Probably not... but when a bad run happens its a maths change?

I'm not saying categorically it isn't... but I very much doubt it.
 

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Difficult to say... again I'd be very surprised if the changed the maths of a successful game. I've never done it or heard of it being done unless there's an actual fault.

You won't believe me but I'd say it's luck (good or bad)... if you had played it tonight and won a lot more than usual, would you have said it was a maths change? Probably not... but when a bad run happens its a maths change?

I'm not saying categorically it isn't... but I very much doubt it.

This isn't down to perception. I accept and I read all you have posted and agree. But this is beyond the norm, in many updated slots I've played.
You hear the usual moaning about the html5 updates, anyone with a straight thinking mind knows it's not actually altering there winning chance. But seriously with this game, that blows all updates And the like out of the water. It's changed, and not just for me I'd say 100%...the base game is odd, the teases never land...and a feature hahaha what's one of those?.. look at the streamers, won loads lost loads, now...nobody can win. Not everyone can be wrong, that's stats and odds.
Not disregarding what you say for a moment, love you're actively here and addressing issues and giving your side.
This thought just doesn't feel nor sit right, not just with me...a lot of others also. Thanks again for taking your time to respond.
 

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I've never done well with Fruit Warp. You are playing it in hopes of getting the big bonus. If you don't get it, Fruit Warp will eat your balance super fast.

I do like some of Thunderkick's games such as The Rift, Birds on a Wire and Børk the Berserker but they also have some frustrating and pointless slots such as Babushkas, Arcader and that one with the frogs and potions. Fruit Warp is their most brutal slot.
 

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This isn't down to perception. I accept and I read all you have posted and agree. But this is beyond the norm, in many updated slots I've played.
You hear the usual moaning about the html5 updates, anyone with a straight thinking mind knows it's not actually altering there winning chance. But seriously with this game, that blows all updates And the like out of the water. It's changed, and not just for me I'd say 100%...the base game is odd, the teases never land...and a feature hahaha what's one of those?.. look at the streamers, won loads lost loads, now...nobody can win. Not everyone can be wrong, that's stats and odds.
Not disregarding what you say for a moment, love you're actively here and addressing issues and giving your side.
This thought just doesn't feel nor sit right, not just with me...a lot of others also. Thanks again for taking your time to respond.

You know the game far better than I do mate.
. If you feel it's changed then I believe that you feel something has changed. All I'm saying is that unless they have changed the RTP or had max liability issues (although I would expect that to just mean a limited top stake) I wouldn't expect them to change the game.

Doesn't mean they haven't of course :)
 

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I've never done well with Fruit Warp. You are playing it in hopes of getting the big bonus. If you don't get it, Fruit Warp will eat your balance super fast.

I do like some of Thunderkick's games such as The Rift, Birds on a Wire and Børk the Berserker but they also have some frustrating and pointless slots such as Babushkas, Arcader and that one with the frogs and potions. Fruit Warp is their most brutal slot.

I like some of the games also. But this has not really contributed to how the game 'fruit warp' has changed beyond belief.
It's not about the big wins, I never said that.
It's about the base game play,the teases and the bonus should you get it now.
Since the update it's gone to bat shit.
 

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You know the game far better than I do mate.
. If you feel it's changed then I believe that you feel something has changed. All I'm saying is that unless they have changed the RTP or had max liability issues (although I would expect that to just mean a limited top stake) I wouldn't expect them to change the game.

Doesn't mean they haven't of course :)

Cheers for the answer as vague as it was. It's clearly been changed. No huge issue to me,I'll just never play it nor any of there games again, even though some I like.
Just find it a poor tactic. As you have previously said you guys always have the edge anyway...why change it to even more of a edge?..
And of course people change things...it's human nature, good or bad.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
 

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Cheers for the answer as vague as it was. It's clearly been changed. No huge issue to me,I'll just never play it nor any of there games again, even though some I like.
Just find it a poor tactic. As you have previously said you guys always have the edge anyway...why change it to even more of a edge?..
And of course people change things...it's human nature, good or bad.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.

The casino may have requested a lower RTP version. Has the RTP changed at all in the help pages?
 

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The casino may have requested a lower RTP version. Has the RTP changed at all in the help pages?

Cheers. It clearly has changed. With all the foil hats in all the world (including dunovers) this can't be disputed. I'll never ever after tonight play one of there games again.
 
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