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Kroffe

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Hmm this playing on different stakes having different distribution of the rtp does make me wonder.
I chased the 5000x on 1p on BoD, definitely done well over 1 million spins over a few months before it hit, perhaps closer to 2 mill since you could power bash the button at warp speed. The game never took away more than £25/£30 before throwing in one type of 5oak of the picture symbols during those spins on 1p.
I'm confident I've done no more than 150,000 spins on 2p, so maybe ten times less spins than on 1p, yet im currently £100 down this week on 2p with the biggest win of 260x, since i last hit any 5oak of the pic symbols (or 4 explorers).

It's like it can read my mind, that I probably won't leave the game if I hit 750x for 5oak on 1p so it doesn't mind dropping those 5oak in, but it seems to know if im on 2p i will be switching off and heading down the pub to spend those insane profits if it was to do it.
Thats the thing, it can be 5x harder to hit lines on 2p one line.
Im not saying it is, but it could be, and we would never know.
I think if its used it would probably be to limit exposure from the really high stakes.
Just make the bonus on games like doa2 harder to hit on high stakes and shuffle more rtp into useless 3oak & 4oak hits in the basegame.
Rtp stays the same for 10p and £20 spins, but the guy playing at £20 will struggle to make any withdrawals because he never seems to land those big x stake wins.

Its not even sure something like this is happening at all, but as a player there is no way of knowing.
Maybe you are not hitting the bonus because you are unlucky, or maybe the stake you are playing at is making it harder.
The important thing here is that they can still hide behind 'its random' because it is,

And for anyone thinking that online gambling, with he amount of money involved, is some sort of holy land free of corruption, i have a very interesting pyramid scheme business opportunity i would like to share with you.
;)
 

Slotplayer83

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Data de início Total apostado Total ganho
2021-04-30 22:53:25 €150 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:51:16 €500 €182 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:50:51 €500 €4.5 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:50:01 €400 €2 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:49:37 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:49:15 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:48:51 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:48:28 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:45:07 €500 €722.5 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:40:18 €500 €1587.5 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:38:45 €500 €56 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:38:22 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:37:50 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:37:27 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:37:04 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:36:34 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:36:01 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:32:52 €500 €1101.5 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:32:29 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:32:02 €500 €2 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:31:35 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:30:50 €500 €75 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:30:27 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:27:43 €500 €252.5 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:27:09 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:24:39 €500 €505 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:23:01 €500 €2 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:20:10 €500 €672 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:20:03 €10 €7 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 22:15:40 €500 €921.5 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:53:35 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:53:13 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:52:32 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:49:29 €500 €1081 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:40:49 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:40:17 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:37:31 €500 €376 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:33:47 €500 €439 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:33:11 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:32:34 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:32:00 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:31:34 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:29:20 €500 €314 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:28:54 €500 €2 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:28:30 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:28:02 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:27:36 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:27:10 €500 €0 Detalhes da ronda
2021-04-30 21:26:43 €496 €1 Detalhes da ronda

How is this even legal. Seriously; i'm about to be done with this whole gambling. I cant stand it at this point. Bashing up to 3 sessions like this and still come out with a stomp on the nutsack. Fantastic providers. Fantastic casino's. Fantastic products. All for the revenue. Hooray. You cant tell me that above "random" is justified.

I wish everyone seriously what they deserve. Pieces of shit.
 

mack341

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How is this even legal. Seriously; i'm about to be done with this whole gambling. I cant stand it at this point. Bashing up to 3 sessions like this and still come out with a stomp on the nutsack. Fantastic providers. Fantastic casino's. Fantastic products. All for the revenue. Hooray. You cant tell me that above "random" is justified.

I wish everyone seriously what they deserve. Pieces of shit.

Just to clarify are these 500 euro bonus buys with the result?
 

Slotplayer83

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Yes. And this is like the 3rd session. A loss, okay. A bunch of losses, i can take it. Three times being fisted in the ass like this is getting fucking stupid. All these actions are blocked.
 

mack341

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How can a slot game give so many zero results from a bonus buy, was it the same game or different slots?

The best thing the ukgc did in recent years [admittedly not a long list of actions to choose from] was banning the bonus buys, took them a while to notice the danger but at least they have, whereas malta/EU nothing so far afaik.

edit: off topic, but I probably would have allowed for minimum stake bonus buys to continue, perhaps with a daily limit on how many a person could do.
 

Slotplayer83

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Yes it is extra chilli. The extra risk added obviously where you can lose the complete gamble. Now i'm used to losing a few here and there, no worries, but you can obviously SEE in the data that everything is getting shot off. Now i dont know if this is the casino's "desired setting" because their max bet is 500 a buy, or the provider... The worst part is is that playing at 300 to 400 euro levels seems to net better results then going for the max. And let the max be the most volatile (for the casino) that's it's simply tweaked down a tad or three.

This is just nonsense. They are making these games not just volatile but also so extremely toxic; esp when you go through 3 of such sessions. Seriously at some point i just want to throw my chair out of the window; that is just what gambling is doing right here. Being presented as entertainment and blabla, fuck no. Everything is designed to lure you in, tilt you and screw you over grandios.
 

Mr_Slot5

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Hmm this playing on different stakes having different distribution of the rtp does make me wonder.
I chased the 5000x on 1p on BoD, definitely done well over 1 million spins over a few months before it hit, perhaps closer to 2 mill since you could power bash the button at warp speed. The game never took away more than £25/£30 before throwing in one type of 5oak of the picture symbols during those spins on 1p.
I'm confident I've done no more than 150,000 spins on 2p, so maybe ten times less spins than on 1p, yet im currently £100 down this week on 2p with the biggest win of 260x, since i last hit any 5oak of the pic symbols (or 4 explorers).

It's like it can read my mind, that I probably won't leave the game if I hit 750x for 5oak on 1p so it doesn't mind dropping those 5oak in, but it seems to know if im on 2p i will be switching off and heading down the pub to spend those insane profits if it was to do it.
As I've said before, there's 101 reasons why casinos would want some control over RTP distribution (where the biggest wins go, frequency of wins, variance etc etc). On top of this I've never seen any legislation that renders this unlawful. The only thing I know is the slot holistically has to hit its tRTP.
 

Slotplayer83

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As I've said before, there's 101 reasons why casinos would want some control over RTP distribution (where the biggest wins go, frequency of wins, variance etc etc). On top of this I've never seen any legislation that renders this unlawful. The only thing I know is the slot holistically has to hit its tRTP.

Yep; there's so much difference in between games in between 60 cents and 4 euro, or let alone even 20 euro a spin. It's obviously designed in favor of the casino. You want to win big? You gotta bet big. it's the only way. I never seen a player with such low stakes becoming a sudden rich-tastic apart from streamers that represent a truely unfair and biased view of online casino's.
 

trancemonkey

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Well as all slots are rigged, I think it deserves full exposure so the more topics the better, preferably at the rate of at least once a day.

It is also important, in my opinion, to continue playing slots whilst you are confident that they are rigged. Nothing better than throwing good money after bad after all.

In the meantime, the likes of @trancemonkey should be banned from participating in this kind of topic.
Please ban me... please :)
 

trancemonkey

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What I said wasn't an opinion. They removed a symbol when the game was live, to prevent people from winning. Thats a fact and that is proof of a rigged slot.
Do I think slots are rigged? No.
Do I know it is possible to do? Yes.
You asked why has no one ever picked up a rigged slot. They have, and once you're proven wrong, you refuse to discuss it anymore?
You're right, some people, even when given evidence, will not change their opinion.
If they did that, then the checksum for the maths that had been tested would have been different to the maths on site. This would have been super simple for any test house / regulator to check. And if they DID do this, and were caught, i'm shocked that they managed to keep their licence.

That said, this was in 2009 where there were a LOT less restrictions / tests / rules...
 
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neon claws

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If they did that, then the checksum for the maths that had been tested would have been different to the maths on site. This would have been super simple for any test house / regulator to check. And if they DID do this, and were caught, i'm shocked that they managed to keep their licence.
I'm not privy to the issue in question he's referring to, but it sounds like they removed a jackpot trigger- which presumably falls outside the basegames RTP?
I think I remember something similar with the game Naughty or Nice at some casino where the jackpot just never went off for a certain stake.. or something.
 

Kroffe

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I'm not privy to the issue in question he's referring to, but it sounds like they removed a jackpot trigger- which presumably falls outside the basegames RTP?
I think I remember something similar with the game Naughty or Nice at some casino where the jackpot just never went off for a certain stake.. or something.
For one of the slots you needed a 5oak of wilds to trigger jackpot.
Wilds did not exist on reels 1&5.
Even tho the jackpot is is outside of normal basegame rtp, surely missing wilds on two reels would affect the 'normal' rtp aswell, unless the wilds only ever showed up to trigger the jackpot.
 
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