Bonus Complaint Won 31k at stakers.com but they capped it to 88 euro

irish-ranger

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Never did try depositing at stakers, heard it was dodgy so..avoided them.
Bet365 is good with withdrawal..within an hour, just have to follow their KYC procedure and you're good, once you're verified.
Don't like taking bonuses either..too much hard work lol!
The OP had this complaint posted all over the net for god sake I think it's even in mumsnet,at the time this happend they were offering £25 free Xmas bonus with a max withdrawal of £75 another case of not reading T andCs..
 

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Well... let me say something .. believe it or not it's your own call. But i found out that bonus wager are not random. Casinos set the payout of bonuses that are distributed to players like scratch tickets. That way they can lower the return of no deposit, free spins etc (therefor why free spins always insta rip on wager). When you have a max cash out they can then set the bonus to pay out huge to create great gaming experience and entice you into playing more. Just like how i would hit 1000x 2000x left and right on capped bitstarz bonuses or that group i forgot name that has all deposit bonuses 10x max cash out.. i'd do 10+10 and such and every single one i would beat wager with 1-2k wins getting bonuses on endorphinas left and right. So my own idea is that mixed with the no deposit the main bonus got the "happy days" mode of the no deposit so the huge win would not have happened without the no deposit. That's why you hear so many stories of huge wins then no pay, just pay 100$ etc... Still find it amazing that no one sees these things as it's hilariously easy to demonstrate. Of course i gave up trying to convince people as they so want it to be real and legit random... Never wondered how you can win big quick so often on wager to then rip straight to 0? bad luck? nope... scripted wager.. big wins early to create action as the wager allow the system to remove the funds... fake wins la la la. But anyway hope it can relieve a little the guilt as this big win would probably have not happened anyway.
 

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Well... let me say something .. believe it or not it's your own call. But i found out that bonus wager are not random. Casinos set the payout of bonuses that are distributed to players like scratch tickets. That way they can lower the return of no deposit, free spins etc (therefor why free spins always insta rip on wager). When you have a max cash out they can then set the bonus to pay out huge to create great gaming experience and entice you into playing more. Just like how i would hit 1000x 2000x left and right on capped bitstarz bonuses or that group i forgot name that has all deposit bonuses 10x max cash out.. i'd do 10+10 and such and every single one i would beat wager with 1-2k wins getting bonuses on endorphinas left and right. So my own idea is that mixed with the no deposit the main bonus got the "happy days" mode of the no deposit so the huge win would not have happened without the no deposit. That's why you hear so many stories of huge wins then no pay, just pay 100$ etc... Still find it amazing that no one sees these things as it's hilariously easy to demonstrate. Of course i gave up trying to convince people as they so want it to be real and legit random... Never wondered how you can win big quick so often on wager to then rip straight to 0? bad luck? nope... scripted wager.. big wins early to create action as the wager allow the system to remove the funds... fake wins la la la. But anyway hope it can relieve a little the guilt as this big win would probably have not happened anyway.

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Well... let me say something .. believe it or not it's your own call. But i found out that bonus wager are not random. Casinos set the payout of bonuses that are distributed to players like scratch tickets. That way they can lower the return of no deposit, free spins etc (therefor why free spins always insta rip on wager). When you have a max cash out they can then set the bonus to pay out huge to create great gaming experience and entice you into playing more. Just like how i would hit 1000x 2000x left and right on capped bitstarz bonuses or that group i forgot name that has all deposit bonuses 10x max cash out.. i'd do 10+10 and such and every single one i would beat wager with 1-2k wins getting bonuses on endorphinas left and right. So my own idea is that mixed with the no deposit the main bonus got the "happy days" mode of the no deposit so the huge win would not have happened without the no deposit. That's why you hear so many stories of huge wins then no pay, just pay 100$ etc... Still find it amazing that no one sees these things as it's hilariously easy to demonstrate. Of course i gave up trying to convince people as they so want it to be real and legit random... Never wondered how you can win big quick so often on wager to then rip straight to 0? bad luck? nope... scripted wager.. big wins early to create action as the wager allow the system to remove the funds... fake wins la la la. But anyway hope it can relieve a little the guilt as this big win would probably have not happened anyway.

I know the feeling.
But surely, if they are rigging the no deposit bonus to win big, they would either have to be 'in on it' with ALL the game suppliers that offer them games for you to choose from, by either working together to (and if on a capped ND bonus, literally making nothing as a result) fix it, or otherwise the casino woulr have to be able to control the outcome themselves within any or ALL of the games from ALL of the suppliers you might potentially choose to play from.
Back in the day I played many no deposit bonuses, and crashed on many not to dissimilar to that of a sumo wrestler jumping out of an airplane using a tesco plastic bag for a parachute. Many of them had small max cashouts.

Though, curiously, how did you find out that bonus wager is not random?
What you claim isn't really relevant to the OP either. He was already winning before they added a tiny no deposit bonus, which came with extra wagering and cap on winnings.. It didn't result in him winning 31k once it was added lol, I don't know how much he was up but from what i can see it reads as if he was already winning 31k when he checked the wagering ;)
 

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