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WMS removed from alot of countries

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by ginzink, Jan 1, 2016.

    Jan 1, 2016
  1. ginzink

    ginzink Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Norway
    So first i noticed WMS disapeared at Unibet. Now it is gone from all casinos for Norwegian players!
    Aparantly Williams have updated their restricted countries and i will not be available again :mad:

    Why oh why would they do this to us? I love their slots :mad:
     
  2. Jan 1, 2016
  3. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    Sucks when this happens, as you describe it I would make a pure guess at legal issues of some sort.
     
  4. Jan 1, 2016
  5. ginzink

    ginzink Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Norway
    It seems they blocked all countries where gamling is illegal like Norway. If all providers will act like them there would be only Norsk Tipping left and they got boring games!
     
  6. Jan 1, 2016
  7. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

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    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    Same here :oops: Thailand is now as well on the restricted list :(
     
  8. Jan 1, 2016
  9. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Right behind you
    omg thats really terrible. I guess Norsk tipping and their boring casino won..
     
  10. Jan 2, 2016
  11. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

    Occupation:
    n/a
    Location:
    australia
    they got hard blocked for Australia 4 months ago such a shame we can legally gamble online and theres like no wms land machines i think wms have shared software or deal with igt. our land rtp for my state is 84 per cent such a joke.
     
  12. Jan 2, 2016
  13. rainmaker

    rainmaker I'm not a penguin CAG webmeister

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    According to Vera&John Williams has added the following countries to the restricted-list (as of December 30):

    Brazil, Suriname, Peru, Germany, Chile, Åland, Austria, Norway, Czech Republic, Greece.

    :(
     
  14. Jan 2, 2016
  15. hhhelllo

    hhhelllo Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Modern age slavery
    Location:
    canada
    In Canada it's a different reason. I live in the province of Quebec and gambling is under the control of loto-quebec runned by the governement. The only place you can find WMS slots online is on their website espacejeux. There is some WMS slots machine in local casinos too. I don't think a provider would risk this contract by offering their games to websites that the government consider "illegal". It is pretty much the same thing with IGT here... You can find them in bars and at casinos but there is no way you can access these games online in you are a canadian resident unless you are willing to play on espacejeux... I believe there are some different sites for the other provinces in Canada.

    Unfortunately, this online mess is terrible... Deposits are nearly impossible unless you have a personal credit card that is accepted... 80% of them arent... You can wire money to deposit... But almost every bank won't do bank transfers to a gambling website... Even if its the governement... It's been running for years and nothing improved at all... The customer support is the worst... Incompetent at best ;)
     
  16. Jan 2, 2016
  17. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    I really like the WMS Zeus style slots.
    Strangely, in Australia we can't play WMS slots online but we have them in our land based casinos.
    I'm not too sure why this is but it is to the land based casinos' advantage as they offer the only place to play WMS slots.
    I have asked online casinos why this is and all that they tell me is that it's because of WMS.

    That's not true. Austalians have never been able to play WMS slots online. We can't even play Aristocrat slots online and Aristocrat are an Australian company.

    "...our land rtp for my state is 84 per cent such a joke." Which state are you from?
    As far as I'm aware minimum RTP for all slots in the country is 87.5% but there are some rare exceptions for old machines. I could be wrong about that because I am only really familiar with the rules in my state. I understand that rules may differ from state to state.

    "...and theres like no wms land machines"
    That's not true either. I was playing Zeus III just last year at the Adelaide casino.

    "...we can legally gamble online"
    You got that one right. :thumbsup:
     
  18. Jan 2, 2016
  19. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    All these restrictions make a mockery of the original intent of internet commerce, but they also open the door to counterfeit games because all legal alternatives have been removed. It's very hard to block counterfeit games being offered by an unlicensed and unregulated casino in some jurisdiction that doesn't really give a damn about it. If on top of this all legal alternatives are blocked, the ONLY place that people will be able to find working versions of the games they are after will be the counterfeits on offer. Since they can't play the genuine article, they will not be able to spot the counterfeit as easily, unless it's so badly done that it's obvious.

    The same goes for music and movies. Blocking all legal alternatives for digital music in the early days created the big problem the industry then had to tackle, and are still tackling now. Blocking movies from everywhere but America meant that the rest of the world had only pirate sources as the legal sources were restricted to the USA. The issue with movies precedes the internet as they deliberately "crippled" the DVD media and DVD players to ensure movies were blocked outside of the USA. The first "piracy" was not digital, it was "gaffed" firmware DVD players that would play "any region" DVD media, or which could be set to region 1 for all US releases.
     
  20. Jan 2, 2016
  21. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

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    n/a
    Location:
    australia
    Victoria is my state they lowered it down from the 87 to 84 awhile ago. theres a news story about it somewhere only crown casino has the higher 87. Even the 87 is a joke.

    Never seen wms in a venue or casino in victoria or anywhere in townsville.

    Up until mid last year i was able to play some aristocrat and wms online from my aussie ip no probs.

    hit a 3000x on montzuma online

    Guess im going for a casino trip to Adelaide now did the have montzuma?
     
  22. Jan 2, 2016
  23. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    I doubt that is true. They would have updated the government website: You must register/login in order to see the link.
    "In Victoria, the law stipulates that poker machines must pay back 87 per cent of the money spent on it each year, after the deductions of any special jackpots. The rest goes to the pokie owners or in tax."
    Maybe that news story you read was false? Besides, in Victoria you can view the RTP on the machine itself.

    Which online casino was that? PM me if you don't want to share it publicly.

    They didn't have Montzuma, they had a handful of other WMS slots though.
    One other WMS I remember seeing there was Napoleon and Josephine.
     
  24. Jan 2, 2016
  25. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

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    Selling out
    Location:
    Vancouver
    Its all got to do with licensing, here in BC they are all over the B and M casinos, both IGT and WMS, we can play them online through our govt licensed site Playnow, don't seem to have the same issues depositing though, multiple options including Interac debit.
     
  26. Jan 2, 2016
  27. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

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    Location:
    australia
    the places where you could play have all been locked out now server block so no point to naming
    i was wrong about 84% it was 85%


    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  28. Jan 2, 2016
  29. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

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    Student
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    Not weird they were removed from Norway. Scientific Games apparently won an contract to supply the government owned and only legal gambling company Norsk Tipping with games last year. You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I just hope we will get to play some of the original WMS games, not just new ones made for Norsk Tipping that tend to be pretty boring. I remember the Thunderstruck Clone they got from Microgaming. It was the same just without the Thunderstorm and Free spins multipliers. I guess the best we can hope for is a Raging Rhino/Montezuma clone without multipliers :((
     
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  30. Jan 2, 2016
  31. ginzink

    ginzink Non-Gambler

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Norway
    IT is so frustrating that the legal options always are worse! Gambling and movies.. Luckily it is not like that for music and computer games anymore thanks to Spotify and steam
     
  32. Jan 2, 2016
  33. hhhelllo

    hhhelllo Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Modern age slavery
    Location:
    canada
    I have 3 bank account and all of them are refused by espacejeux for interac debit. I opened an account with Scotia Bank only to deposit on espacejeux.... After the first deposit they called me to say that they closed my account because transactions with gambling website are not tolerated. How fu$:!:!:$;_ing stupid is that? Since this incident... No thank you.. There is dumb... And there is espacejeux...
     
  34. Jan 2, 2016
  35. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Selling out
    Location:
    Vancouver
    That's crazy, I have had no issues with RBC depositing, I just went to Escape Jeux site, its pretty much the same as Playnow, BC Lotteries site, government regulated.
     
  36. Jan 2, 2016
  37. philderby1

    philderby1 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    factory worker
    Location:
    derby
    sometimes I forget how lucky I am to live in England.

    Favourite slots are monte and rhino, not really interested in playing much else tbh
     

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