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Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by dave1888, Apr 4, 2015.

    Apr 4, 2015
  1. dave1888

    dave1888 mmawardee PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    Is it just me or are the features on these slots by WMS like gold dust? It took hundreds of rounds to get a feature on Black Knight for me and when I did get it the stupid game had robbed me of €45 and all it could spit out was a poxy €12.80! The only slot I find it easyish to get a feature on is Wizard of oz and Ruby Slippers everything else seems to take lots of money before it comes in? How does everyone else approach these slots how on earth did Black Knight devour almost all my cash before coming up with feature which was very poor? what bloody balance do I need for these infernal games 100quid 150quid 200+? So angry at how it done me over. I've seen winning videos and wonder why it can't be me? Hell I'd be happy with €30 feature maybe even settle on 25euros but nearly €45 before a feature which is just over 40x bet is completely crap. Sorry pretty annoyed highest I've been in weeks on slots. Can't win at all right now. So what balance do you guys and girls go on these games with?
     
  2. Apr 4, 2015
  3. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

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    I remember when I used to do NotEnt & Microshaming on a modest budget of £40-50 with reckless abandon at 60 or 80p a spin and seemingly get my balance up.

    Nowadays I consider myself lucky to break even at minimum bets across all software, given how that guy in the Control Tower doesn't like me much at the moment:eek:

    Aren't most WMS games 30p - 40p per spin minimum by default? I personally wouldn't even go anywhere near them without at least a £100 or £150 bankroll to even stand a chance from the brief gameplay I've encountered on them to be honest...!

    And I wouldn't touch that Knight game with yours, to be frank!
     
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  4. Apr 4, 2015
  5. dave1888

    dave1888 mmawardee PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    This one you can adjust the bet lines but I just did not expect the slot to be so awful for me. Ran better on Raging Rhino with 1/3 of what I spun with on Black Knight. I know that now I'll be avoiding unless I have at least 90-100 then. Thanks for clarifying it's not just me who loses on these. :thumbsup: Tell me about it my luck is rotten right now. I struggle to hit anything and when I do it's normally only 100x bet which isn't great as i'm a lowroller indefinitely until I start to build a bankroll again then I might go low-medium bet size again.
     
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  6. Apr 4, 2015
  7. Jono777

    Jono777 mmawardeeIV CAG mm4 mm1

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    Not a massive WMS player (odd dabble now and again) but like you say, Ruby slippers was the only one out of the handful I tried which

    * didn't destroy my balance the moment I clicked spin and never looked back :eek:
    * Did give me the odd bonus round (even tho crap most times)

    Now for RR - I think I've probably done in the region of 2,000 spins total lifetime and hit one bonus round for 'feature guarantee'

    Zeus 3 - triggered FS, 2nd spin on very 1st 'try' and that too paid crap

    Really like what I read about them / videos I see etc but just doesn't seem to 'do it' for me so I stick to MG and Netent in the main.
     
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  8. Apr 4, 2015
  9. psychogene

    psychogene Senior Member

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    I only played WMS once Casumo got them. Don't have much experience with WMS but I did play Raging Rhino, Zeus 3 and Montezuma for a good week. I have had a few bonus rounds between all the games but the only bonus round of any note was my very first one on Raging Rhino for about x500. The rest have been forgettable.

    I used to play novomatic alot too but I have somewhat quit because I think with WMS and Novomatic its more geared towards people who deposit $100 or more because with my deposits of $20-$30 for the most part its not going to cut it for a decent session on time when the slots are playing poorly.

    Still not as bad as Isoftbet. I have tried to like their slots but the only one I have had any luck on is Beverly Hills 90210 and I hate the theme of that slot lol
     
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  10. Apr 4, 2015
  11. towersoft

    towersoft On a Break PABnoaccred

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    That's the nature of the WMS beast unfortunately. I love WMS games myself as I have played them in Land based casinos, prefer Aristocrat though. I would not start to play a WMS machine without have 250 spins worth of credit to be honest, if I do go in with less I don't expect any features. Most features will be ok but every now and again you will get a monster. Most WMS seem to act like this in my opinion. Must say that I am not a fan of Black Knight myself. Have never had anything worth talking about from it, and not through lack of trying either. It must have taken many £k from me over the years and all you can do is pull your pants up and walk away.

    My advice if your getting angry with it is to take a break, you will only end up chasing losses otherwise.
     
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  12. Apr 4, 2015
  13. rshkrn

    rshkrn Senior Member

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    agree to this completely....

    have never got features on any of the WMS slots before like 100-200 spins then max 50-60x
     
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  14. Apr 4, 2015
  15. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

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    Black Knight 1 is massive high variance and everything about this game is in the bonus round which cant be re triggered. Nothing at all going on in the base game. Certainly not a slot to go near if wanting to chew away at any wagering requirements. When it does line up in the bonus round it can pay huge. That is the nature of this beast. Crap wins in the base game even for 5 of a kind and a bonus round that can take 100s of spins to trigger and even then you can get shafted with a crap payout. I would only play BK1 if/ when up and can afford to loose a few 100. Black Knight 2 is kinder in the base games. More wins higher per win line but can still be a bitch.

    Most WMS seem to be higher variance with the chance to hit a monster win. But still think they have some of the best games going. So your latest experience on Black Knight is nothing unusual - just unlucky that it was not paying.
     
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  16. Apr 4, 2015
  17. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes on balance I'd say WMS probably have the most high variance slots. It becomes even more important to know the variance of games if you have a strict budget in order to maximise your enjoyment. You definitely want to be careful with Raging RHino in this regard and I would avoid the MoneyBurst and Double Moneyburst games like the plague!

    Try Spartacus, Kiss and Giant's Gold...a good balance.
     
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  18. Apr 4, 2015
  19. towersoft

    towersoft On a Break PABnoaccred

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    Case in point, I just got stung by Amazon Queen. Got a feature on £10 per spin. Result = £22.50 :eek2: but that's the way the cookie crumbles. As I said before, I am going to pull my pants up and walk away. :laugh:
     
  20. Apr 4, 2015
  21. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    At least you know when the free spins are coming on WMS games, the extra-loud 'crash' as the first scatter hits and the autostart blanks out...:)
     
  22. Apr 4, 2015
  23. mrshyguy

    mrshyguy Experienced Member

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    Must admit im a massive wms fan,hence why my fav casino of all time was jackpot party sadly no longer with us :mad:

    my favorite wms game of all time was magic wand :).....would spend hundreds on it but won hundreds on it as well.......game is hard to find now as my regular haunts dosn't have it.

    Zeus 1 was addictive although never got 5 blue lighting bolts for the 100 spins feature.

    amazon queen must be the worst of all wms games as its so hard to get the feature....

    just love wms...........................:thumbsup:
     
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  24. Apr 4, 2015
  25. AnnaTS

    AnnaTS Experienced Member MM

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    I play WMS games alot i like the graphics and some of the bonus round and i would describe myself as a low roller the most i have bet per spin is 90p on a 30 line slot what i usually do is not stay on one machine i have my banroll just vanish doing this last time was on ruby slippers i had £240 in my account and i was only doing 30p a spin i didn't start to play it to stay on it but it didn't do anything for ages then it did something but not much lets say i got suckered in and i lost the lot in a few hours so my approach has changed.

    What i usually do now is do 50 spins then i look to see after the 50 spins have completed how the game play was did i get any features and how much money did i loss or win from them 50 spins if i lost around or more than 2 thirds of what the 50 spins cost me i now probably will move to another machine unless i am up then i may play until i get a feature i do this on black knight 1 because i know i may bet my money back or even come off up but remember wms bonus round are known for giving nothing in the bonus rounds i think that is why they added some bonus gurantees to their bonus rounds.

    I have to disagree with black knight 2 being better than black knight 1 i do play both and i brought this up on another website about these 2 slots and i asked what other people thought because what i had noticed between the 2 is i get 3 knights a lot on black knight 1 then black knight 2 actually i have only ever had 3 knights on black knight 2 once and they all agreed that black knight 1 was better than 2.

    so basically my game play is do 50 spins so what the outcome is if i don't like it then i move on same if i get a good bonus round say on black knight then i also come off but what i also have noticed the bonus rounds can take hundreds of spins to come in that is why sometimes even if i get a rubbish bonus round i come off somtimes you might hit another bonus round straight away or it might take another hundreds of spins if someone looked at my game play they would probably think what is this person doing as i am a really bad machine hopper but it easy to online as you don't have to wait for any to come off a machine you can click and start playing i only do this as i play for bonus rounds i find them exciting like the rubby slipper one with the pink bubbles even though i have only ever had 4 wild reels once and then i got the rubbish symbols come in so i didn't get much with a x2 multiplier.

    Just remember you are gambliing there isn't any formula to winning it's all about timing if you keep a clear head and don't go chasing huge wins you can make your money last or even make a withdrawal and if you are watching videos on youtube with huge wins in them just remember to hit them the odds are probably massive to hit them.

    Anna
     
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  26. Apr 4, 2015
  27. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

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    That 50 spins method sounds quite interesting, it's always good to hear other players' perspectives and methods.

    Too often I find myself being up on a favourite game of mine and then thinking the wins will never stop, only to watch it dwindle back into oblivion.

    In fact yesterday I got 10 free spins on GOT 15- lines from a casino, got a lucky bonus round, switched to Georgie Porgie with £17 and got up to £99 with much delirium.

    Then it became 'death by a 1000 spins' and despite gradually lowering my bets as my balance decreased I busted out disgracefully (still pissed off now come to think of it)

    I like to think I've become more refined in my bankroll strategy but I recall when I first started slotting a few years back I would always hop from game to game after a bonus round.

    So maybe I might give your tactic a shot after all!
     
  28. Apr 4, 2015
  29. Jono777

    Jono777 mmawardeeIV CAG mm4 mm1

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    This seems the most appropriate 'live' thread save starting a new one :eek:

    Please HELP!

    I've just been playing WMS at BetUk, seems a good site and nothing against them.

    However for the 1st time in 10 years of slotting I was actually happy when I finally busted!!:what:

    Laggy spins and reallllllly loooooonnnngggg drrrawnnn ouuttttt spppinns :( :( not to mention the 'getting booted'

    Could one of you wonderful people please recommend an accredited UK facing casino where I can play WMS as they 'supposed to spin' (ideally one which offers MG, Netent too or even better both!!)

    I know it has to be down to the site as I never encounter this 'elsewhere' and I recall my last deposit at BetUK being exactly the same (Had already made deposit when it dawned on me why I'd left it so long since previous deposit, oops :rolleyes:)

    Many thanks in advance all :D
     
  30. Apr 4, 2015
  31. AnnaTS

    AnnaTS Experienced Member MM

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    Well there is nothing worse than playing a slot that is playing dead it's not fun that is why i will immediately change as if you are playing a slot you really like you can always go back and play it later.
    it just so happens there is a lot of games i like which are i will only out WMS ones, black knight 1, ruby slippers, raging rhino, omg kittens, temptation queen, wicked riches, bruce lee money burst one, original wizard of oz, jungle wild, lua loot, magic wand, kronos so i usually look for casinos with a good selection of wms games so if i feel like i need to swap slots to get my entertainment i do.

    Anna
     
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  32. Apr 4, 2015
  33. goatwack

    goatwack Denny, two is great, but three is a crowd CAG

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    Weird thing is with BetUK, Pink Casino, Bingostars etc (all part of the same group as far as I can tell) they all seem to have varying degrees of lag, with BetUK being the worst by far for some reason.

    Identical & impressive selection of games, yet I find Bingostars -from personal experience- to be the least laggy. And I can almost guarantee that from 3am graveyard -hours onwards the games there almost run seamlessly and can actually be enjoyed.

    Just don't play at any of these sites between 10am and 3am and you should be fine:confused:
     
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  34. Apr 5, 2015
  35. dave1888

    dave1888 mmawardee PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    I think casumo your best bet but that doesn't have MG if you want MG,Net-ENT and WMS the only other one I can think of is Unibet but they have no loyalty scheme so you will get nothing back at all if you lose. Plump for Casumo and earn free spins etc every couple of levels :) :cool:
    Boyle games also might have WMS you'd need to check though Jon not 100% sure on that. One other place is Redkings they aren't accredited but av had a withdrawal from here before. You have choices of WMS,next gen and a few other software here but no net-ent or mg.
     
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  36. Apr 5, 2015
  37. dave1888

    dave1888 mmawardee PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    I agree with Anna and that's exactly how I played Black Knight 50 auto spins assessed and repeated same method doesn't help when the damn slot only goes down by 5-6euro lulling you into a false sense that game might be playing decent when worst outcome would be down by €15. This is what I really hate think anything down by 5 and I'm off to somewhere better! Should have played my favourite WMS slot Spartacus the only reason I didn't was because it's 50cents a spin.
     
  38. Apr 5, 2015
  39. jumboshrimp

    jumboshrimp Experienced Member MM PABinit

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    Hi Jon
    I can play wms, netent and mgs at Betsson.
    I just got 10 fs on hall of gods in email recently and won over $5. Then cftbl hit 5 scatters on .20c for $115. Got another nice hit and then on to these impossible wms games.

    I haven't noticed any lag (works fine for me), or any wins. Raging rhino just ate my balance in base game and the two features were both under $2, so they got the feature guarantee of $4. woohoo. $50 gone in 5 minutes!!!! I found myself enraged by raging r.

    Managed a wd of $95, it should have been $145 if not for wms. But, hey it was 10 fs and just after I was thinking to myself getting freespins is ridiculous, they never pay:rolleyes:

    Thank you betsson Wms Features: 5scattbetsson.JPG,Apr 5, 2015
     
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