Withdrawal Question - wire transfer

dreamguardian1

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So question and this has been bothering me. Every withdrawal I make at Vegas2Web via wire transfer somehow has come up short via exactly $30.00. And the casino cannot figure out why and neither can I. Example. Last three withdrawals via wire transfer has been a follows
1.) $2150.49
2.) $1169.78
3.) $1546.01

BUT the amount deposited into my bank account has been always $30.00 less. Now the bank charges an incoming wire transfer fee first one is $5.00 everyone after that is $12.00 so I see those charges BUT no where anywhere do I see where the other $30.00 went.

Now per the terms and conditions of the withdrawals any amount requested over $500.00 is NO FEE but less than that is $35.00 fee. Now $30.00 may seem like pennies for those wins but I really want to know where the hell that other $30.00 is just vanishing to now where. Email response from Casino was that they have no clue either they verified the amount withdrawn and transferred was the same as above and tried to put blame on the bank, so I sent them a copy and past of bank deposits showing the wire transferr fee plus deposit and they agree this is weird but no solution in sight and no real answer. ANyone have any ideas whats going on here and where is this money just vanishing too?

Now this morning another wire transfer deposit hit my bank and again $30.00 just disappears into thin air
 

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So question and this has been bothering me. Every withdrawal I make at Vegas2Web via wire transfer somehow has come up short via exactly $30.00. And the casino cannot figure out why and neither can I. Example. Last three withdrawals via wire transfer has been a follows
1.) $2150.49
2.) $1169.78
3.) $1546.01

BUT the amount deposited into my bank account has been always $30.00 less. Now the bank charges an incoming wire transfer fee first one is $5.00 everyone after that is $12.00 so I see those charges BUT no where anywhere do I see where the other $30.00 went.

Now per the terms and conditions of the withdrawals any amount requested over $500.00 is NO FEE but less than that is $35.00 fee. Now $30.00 may seem like pennies for those wins but I really want to know where the hell that other $30.00 is just vanishing to now where. Email response from Casino was that they have no clue either they verified the amount withdrawn and transferred was the same as above and tried to put blame on the bank, so I sent them a copy and past of bank deposits showing the wire transferr fee plus deposit and they agree this is weird but no solution in sight and no real answer. ANyone have any ideas whats going on here and where is this money just vanishing too?

Now this morning another wire transfer deposit hit my bank and again $30.00 just disappears into thin air

Intermediate bank that acts between the sending bank and your bank if the two do not have a direct connection. Many smaller banks do that as they can afford their own processing center. The cost is different from bank to bank, usually between $10 - $50, some charge a percentage of the transfer amount.
 
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Hopefully you figure it out Dream. Side question tho as I've seen vegas2web mentioned before however I never really checked it out, how is that casinos overall? I'm always lookin for a new place to check out. Fast Payouts?

Edit : looks like it has some really cool games
 
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dreamguardian1

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Hopefully you figure it out Dream. Side question tho as I've seen vegas2web mentioned before however I never really checked it out, how is that casinos overall? I'm always lookin for a new place to check out. Fast Payouts?

Edit : looks like it has some really cool games

I like them, they have wide variety of slots, getting account verified can take some time and sometimes they are faster at payouts and sometimes SLOWER, just depends. Now please note, I have won a lot there but also lost a lot but overall over the course of time I have won more than lost while playing there. But like all casinos whether rival or otherwise, PLAY SMART.....
 

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I like them, they have wide variety of slots, getting account verified can take some time and sometimes they are faster at payouts and sometimes SLOWER, just depends. Now please note, I have won a lot there but also lost a lot but overall over the course of time I have won more than lost while playing there. But like all casinos whether rival or otherwise, PLAY SMART.....

And their Playthrough amounts is lower than some others averages 25-30% depending on coupons used.
 

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Intermediate bank that acts between the sending bank and your bank if the two do not have a direct connection. Many smaller banks do that as they can afford their own processing center. The cost is different from bank to bank, usually between $10 - $50, some charge a percentage of the transfer amount.

They use LLoyds Bank of London... I checked the depositor and called Lloyds. They don't charge customers to do outgoing wiretransfers over 1k as long as the transfer is in US Funds and it was.....So still up in the air lol

This is going to drive me batty lol. I think the processor is ripping them off but I cant prove it.
 

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I like them, they have wide variety of slots, getting account verified can take some time and sometimes they are faster at payouts and sometimes SLOWER, just depends. Now please note, I have won a lot there but also lost a lot but overall over the course of time I have won more than lost while playing there. But like all casinos whether rival or otherwise, PLAY SMART.....

If you have a few mins sometime dream I'd like to know which slots you recommend, so many I've never seen and to choose from so I'm a bit overwhelmed when glancing at them. But I'm a fan of high volitity slots like nova 7s, paydirt etc... If you have 3 to 5 slots that you think have a similar type volitity and style I'd love to hear.
 

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They use LLoyds Bank of London... I checked the depositor and called Lloyds. They don't charge customers to do outgoing wiretransfers over 1k as long as the transfer is in US Funds and it was.....So still up in the air lol

This is going to drive me batty lol. I think the processor is ripping them off but I cant prove it.

Yeah, the depositor into your account stays the same but the money has to be handled by someone. Your bank can issue you a transfer report which will show if an intermediary bank was used.

Same goes for the casino, if they ask their bank for the remittance advice they should get a report like the one below (I only posted the top part of it). You can see that I sent the money to an account at Lloyds Bank in the UK and my bank used HypoVereinsbank Germany as an intermediary. They charged me THB500 extra for that, which is roughly $15. Other times when I did this transfer they used Standard Chartered Bank as intermediary, the charges were always the same.

I had instances where two intermediary banks where used when I was getting transfers from a small Swedish Bank in USD. It went via an US and a Singapore Bank before going into my Thai account.


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Intermediate bank that acts between the sending bank and your bank if the two do not have a direct connection. Many smaller banks do that as they can afford their own processing center. The cost is different from bank to bank, usually between $10 - $50, some charge a percentage of the transfer amount.

Hi - yes spot on. An intermediate bank is normally used where the bene bank isnt big enough / has the inclination to be part of the SWIFT network and therefore doesn’t have a Swift BIC. Very very common in the US. It then gets passed along via the domestic ABA number which all US accounts have.
 

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If you have a few mins sometime dream I'd like to know which slots you recommend, so many I've never seen and to choose from so I'm a bit overwhelmed when glancing at them. But I'm a fan of high volitity slots like nova 7s, paydirt etc... If you have 3 to 5 slots that you think have a similar type volitity and style I'd love to hear.

It depends if they are crappy and losing every spin I don't play them BUT I have some that I just love no matter what Nova 7 love and hate it lol. I like slots that are variable and by variable I don't mean the payouts I mean different bonuses that have pretty graphics lol. With Vegas2web it depends on my mood, they have a circus one I really like that does 2x and you have to get this unicycle to advance to different scenes but at scene 3 tends to go really fast back to scene 1. I like the 3d slots but only when I have a playthrough amount lol Dr. Jekyll is my fav because it has so many bonuses availab.e.
 

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It depends if they are crappy and losing every spin I don't play them BUT I have some that I just love no matter what Nova 7 love and hate it lol. I like slots that are variable and by variable I don't mean the payouts I mean different bonuses that have pretty graphics lol. With Vegas2web it depends on my mood, they have a circus one I really like that does 2x and you have to get this unicycle to advance to different scenes but at scene 3 tends to go really fast back to scene 1. I like the 3d slots but only when I have a playthrough amount lol Dr. Jekyll is my fav because it has so many bonuses availab.e.

Yea I like the ones with different bonus rounds as well. I think what I've liked lately are slots that when they do hit its typically a solid hit. That's why nova 7s is generally so fun because even a simple 50 cent hit can at times be 500 to 1000 bucks based on bonus round and or circumstances of the hit.

So on this new site I just hope to find ones that when they do hit they can be really awesome hits.

I been tryin medium volitity games like cash bandits lately and man I can't get anything going on them it seems
 

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Yea I like the ones with different bonus rounds as well. I think what I've liked lately are slots that when they do hit its typically a solid hit. That's why nova 7s is generally so fun because even a simple 50 cent hit can at times be 500 to 1000 bucks based on bonus round and or circumstances of the hit.

So on this new site I just hope to find ones that when they do hit they can be really awesome hits.

I been tryin medium volitity games like cash bandits lately and man I can't get anything going on them it seems

YA but I think casinos are catching onto that. even casinomax has started using more graphic intensive slots BUT have gotten VERY tight. No cashout from them in months so I stopped playing at them. When you log in an every spin you lose and watch the graphics switch or slot change yaaaa im done with them for awhile..
 

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Yeah, the depositor into your account stays the same but the money has to be handled by someone. Your bank can issue you a transfer report which will show if an intermediary bank was used.

Same goes for the casino, if they ask their bank for the remittance advice they should get a report like the one below (I only posted the top part of it). You can see that I sent the money to an account at Lloyds Bank in the UK and my bank used HypoVereinsbank Germany as an intermediary. They charged me THB500 extra for that, which is roughly $15. Other times when I did this transfer they used Standard Chartered Bank as intermediary, the charges were always the same.

I had instances where two intermediary banks where used when I was getting transfers from a small Swedish Bank in USD. It went via an US and a Singapore Bank before going into my Thai account.


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Everyone has to have their cut lol. The bank gets money for you making a deposit, the casino charges you to make withdrawls under a certain amount, the intermediate bank gets their cut, your bank gets wiretransfer fees. Unless you hit a win or accumalted win over 1k its just not worth it anymore to even play.
 

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