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Playford7

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Don't be naive mate, it happens. A tad harsh.

I've seen community deposits on Twitch (non affiliated). It halves the liability (loss) for both parties and adds an element of fun. Doesn't mean the individual doesn't have the means to fund their own gambling or are a launderer!

A lot of assumptions are made about people and their circumstances where gambling is concerned!
Sorry mate don’t agree at all..

Why
need to share or use anyone else to deposit?

also twitch and streaming is cancer so those low lives are irrelevant to regular decent folks.

If you can’t pay yourself via your own method then sorry you can’t afford it or manage your finances correctly to enable you to.
 

Mr_Slot5

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Cheshire
Sorry mate don’t agree at all..

Why
need to share or use anyone else to deposit?

also twitch and streaming is cancer so those low lives are irrelevant to regular decent folks.

If you can’t pay yourself via your own method then sorry you can’t afford it or manage your finances correctly to enable you to.
But that's simply not true is it mate. Just because someone wants to share a deposit, it does not at all mean that either or both are broke. To suggest otherwise is churlish. I remember one coming out and being honest and saying it cuts his liability to do community deposits.

Put it this way, if I sent you £50 now and said 'here have a deposit on me' would that mean you don't have the money to gamble yourself? Of course it doesn't mean that.

I'm talking about non-affiliated guys on twitch, the affiliated people aren't allowed to split deposits with viewers- as set out in their affiliate agreements. I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong, I'm just saying I've seen it happen. They were actually really good communities too, not toxic at all. As you know I used to watch a few of the small fry streams.

Anyway, hope you're well mate.
 
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colinsunderland

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uk
Anybody using 3rd party funds should be banned and have every penny confiscated.

if you do not have the means to fund gambling yourself at the first point of contact then you have no business placing a wager anywhere.

not only is it embarrassing anyone should use a third party to spin a slot it throws up red flags all over for the casino whom rightly have money laundering and source of wealth to consider, not to mention KYC and the rules they must adhere to.
I think you might be missing a point here.

If I lent you £25 for something today and you paid it back to me next week and I used it to gamble with, if I then got a SoW, they would quite likely ask for your photo ID, address proof, bank statements and payslips. Would you supply them? Probably not, but a small possibility as it's me, and you would understand why. However, what if it your mate who has never gambled a penny in his life. What about if you bought something from someone on gumtree, a complete stranger, they paid you by bank transfer. Do you think you would have any chance at all of getting those details from him, say 3 months later? I would say the chances are greater of winning the Euromillions quadruple rollover twice in a row. But all the time, the casino refuse to pay your winnings as you haven't supplied someone else's personal documents, that they refuse to supply.

That can't be right.
 

Mr Wild

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Malta
Energy requested SoW from me on under £100 deposits in a 2 year period. Not just a request of what my income was, a full SoW, payslips, bank statements etc. That was after a £20 deposit, my first one for about 6 months.
There was another requested it on lifetime deposits of around £1000 (about 3 year old account), and I was in profit there. They said it was RG related, so they thought I might have a gambling problem with an average of £7ish a week, of which I didn't actually lose anything. Never reversed or anything either. Yep, that makes sense. Needless to say, both accounts were closed instantly.

Well they must have a very low risk appetite :) I do think its very few that are that strict and they will kill their business if they continue on that level.
 

Mr Wild

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Malta
Sorry mate don’t agree at all..

Why
need to share or use anyone else to deposit?

also twitch and streaming is cancer so those low lives are irrelevant to regular decent folks.

If you can’t pay yourself via your own method then sorry you can’t afford it or manage your finances correctly to enable you to.

Well most of these cases are married couples where one work and one take care of household and kids. They usually share their income.
 

Spikie

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Dec 5, 2016
Location
Uk
People share deposits gambling in real life all the time , going quids in with your mate on the pub fruits , or splitting a sports bet etc.

So people will also share deposits online . That’s life .
 

SKH05

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Dec 12, 2020
Location
UK
The transactions from my friend in to my account total aprox £1000. Total deposits to the casinos minus withdrawals is 8k, I have asked if I was to provide evidence of where any cash deposits on my account have come from as well as obviously my salary and the overdraft evidenced on my statements (all together covers the 8k deposits) would this suffice however they will not process anything without the 3rd party documents which I am unable to obtain. I've read a few people mentioning that a SAR is usually submitted if no documents are provided within 30 days.. Is this correct? If so this all happened in june/July so should have already been done and obviously no evidence of laundering would have Been found.
 

Playford7

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But that's simply not true is it mate. Just because someone wants to share a deposit, it does not at all mean that either or both are broke. To suggest otherwise is churlish. I remember one coming out and being honest and saying it cuts his liability to do community deposits.

Put it this way, if I sent you £50 now and said 'here have a deposit on me' would that mean you don't have the money to gamble yourself? Of course it doesn't mean that.

I'm talking about non-affiliated guys on twitch, the affiliated people aren't allowed to split deposits with viewers- as set out in their affiliate agreements. I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong, I'm just saying I've seen it happen. They were actually really good communities too, not toxic at all. As you know I used to watch a few of the small fry streams.

Anyway, hope you're well mate.
I just don’t see why anyone needs to lend to gamble.

why have to lend someone if they can afford it in the first place..

no disrespect mate obviously, I see your point but not using your own cash to gamble mate will always be a very dodgy road to walk.
 

Mr_Slot5

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Location
Cheshire
I just don’t see why anyone needs to lend to gamble.

why have to lend someone if they can afford it in the first place..

no disrespect mate obviously, I see your point but not using your own cash to gamble mate will always be a very dodgy road to walk.

But I wasn't talking about lending. Borrowing money to gamble is a sure fire way to get into a painful world of debt.

Of course borrowing to gamble is a completely different kettle of fish.

There's a world of difference between borrowing money to gamble and splitting a deposit with someone or being bankrolled. The last two are less affective of/independent of your own personal finances whereas borrowing money to gamble is a sign you have an issue.
 
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gonzo fonso

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lincolnshire
its all crazy,its different horses for different courses,one casino ive been with from 2007 yes there UKGC big brand ive deposited thousands there and im still playing there,why they not asking for SOW or SOF then ?
 
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