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Question William's interactive slots

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by asadzareef89, Apr 23, 2015.

    Apr 23, 2015
  1. asadzareef89

    asadzareef89 Meister Member MM

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    Okay this has been bothering me for some time, maybe a bit of a rant but more of a question

    WMS slots, I have been playing Raging rhino, Zeus 3, Ruby slippers, montezuma, Elvis, WoZ, fire queen, spartacus, kiss, bierhaus regularly and others every now and then

    My max win on any of these is 100x on RR, zeus 3(2 bonuses in 4000 spins at 1 casino and both paid around 10x) never gives a bonus round and if it does never gives more than 10x, same with others and i consider a 30x as a big win as its very rare for me, only slot that plays a bit ok is fire queen

    I must have done more than 50000 spins on RR and hundreds of bonus rounds and 99% were 10x guaranteed, others were b/w 11x and 40x, In the meantime i have had great hits on other slots(Netent, MG) with way less spins

    Question is how tight are these slots and how rare the wins of more than 100x? I ask as i did almost same number of spins on doa and raging at a certain casino, doa resulted in 5x scatters once, twice extra spins (no wildline) and several other wins of 200x-300x but raping rhino(as dunover puts it) gave a big fat nothing, best win was 68quid on 2 quid bet

    I mean Woz is the worst though as bonus rounds usually pay b/w 1x - 10x max

    I know ppl love Wms and i love the games hence keep trying but how tight are these machines as they make IGT look real appealing?
     
  2. Apr 23, 2015
  3. paul7388

    paul7388 Meister Member MM

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    Personally I do not play them often.

    For instance the rhino slot. You can get awesome wins on it. But it is so high variance I can not hit a single big win. Almost guaranteed to get the feature guarantee at end.

    The other day I got 48 free spins as got several 2 scatter retriggers. I still got the guarantee at end. 48 spins of garbage lol.

    Several other WMS slots seem the same. They are definitely slots to be careful when playing as they can destroy a balance so quick even on minimum stakes.
     
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  4. Apr 23, 2015
  5. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    Of those, only Spartacus and Kiss are close to medium variance. You will hardly ever profit from Ruby Slippers, Montezuma and Bierhaus without hitting a bonus round but they occur more frequently in those games than in Elvis and Fire Queen which are the highest variance games you mention but also offer bigger potential bonus rewards. The Rhino and Zeus 3 slots fall into the middle ground where you can win massively from bonus rounds but if you don't get those, there is still a chance of a 100x or something in normal play on a semi-regular basis.

    The bottom line is that WMS slots, almost all the ones you like, are the types of games where one or two events pay all the dosh and are quite rare but when you hit them every now and again you will get a stunner. In Ruby Slippers for example, the Glinda Wild Reels bonus is the only time you will get close to 500x and you'll need minimum 3 wild reels and a multiplier to achieve that. In Raging Rhino, you need stacks of creatures with some multiplying wilds on the middle reels in the feature to do the same.

    That's just the way WMS slots are. The RTP is no different but if you want more entertainment in games you have to sacrifice some of the potential for big wins. It's a trade-off and why variance is such an important part of a slot players understanding.

    If you look at a game like the original Zeus for example, you can get some good wins on a regular basis but the maximum you'll ever get is 500x for a screen full of Zeus or Wilds.
     
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  6. Apr 23, 2015
  7. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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  8. Apr 23, 2015
  9. ugaboga

    ugaboga Casino Addict

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    Started playing Raging Rhino after watching Dunover's vids... it's very addicted but IMO, it's too easy to hit free spins and to retrigger them. I've had 50 worth of free spins at a go that have paid zilch.

    Addictive slot though, very addictive but too brutal.
     
  10. Apr 23, 2015
  11. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Never thought I'd read that it is 'too easy' to get FS lol!

    But yes your spot on, those videos did factor in my decision to make a small breakaway from my usual MG or Netent and all of my RR and Ruby Slippers features have been shit!

    Brutal is a good description when they are in a bad mood :thumbsup:
     
  12. Apr 23, 2015
  13. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    I love WMS and at current is by far my favourite slots provider.
    Ok,they have a a lot of slots with a pretty high variance level but I take that for granted.
    Those slots are more fun to play than their low-med variance range to be honest,but that is my opinion.
    Had a good few very nice hits on Raging Rhino,Montezuma,Bierhaus and Ruby Slippers.
    Some were 1000x + which is peanuts for above slots WHEN you are lucky that is.
    A friend of mine hit 2600x + stake on Zeus 3 not too long ago just after signing up at CasinoEuro at his first deposit.

    So I suppose you are just unlucky there m8.
    I'd say hang in there if you like to play them and I am sure your lucky win will come soon also.

    I had the same with DOA,started to believe I could not hit the 5 wilds in FS but eventually a few weeks back I hit my first 5 liner wilds. :p
     
  14. Apr 23, 2015
  15. asadzareef89

    asadzareef89 Meister Member MM

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    you must be seriously lucky to say u get fs easily on raging rhino
     
  16. Apr 23, 2015
  17. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Rogering Rhino regularly goes 3-400 spins with no feature, it tends to group them together. You need to manage the balance well. Start with .40 stakes, and keep on going. You'd be unlucky to stay on the game for one session and go through 12+ bonus rounds without at least one decent one. If you get a lengthy period of no spins, then get a decent bonus, raise your stake to .80.

    I (as you all know) play it a lot and I cannot believe you've had "99% of bonus rounds paying the 10x feature guarantee". I have never had more than 4 from 5 pay FeG. On average every other round or less pays FeG.
     
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  18. Apr 23, 2015
  19. asadzareef89

    asadzareef89 Meister Member MM

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    Truly believe it, just checked my stats, 53 bonus rounds at a certain casino, 1 round paid 101x, 42 paid guarantee, 1 paid 35x, 9 paid b/w 11x-20x(ths is really no better than a guarantee)
     
  20. Apr 26, 2015
  21. asadzareef89

    asadzareef89 Meister Member MM

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    since my post, had 4 RR rounds in 2000 spins @ VJ n 3 paid guarantee, other one piad 4.20, 6 rounds @ slotto, all paid guarantee

    my first ever 4 reel wild on any slot, was so excited but the result was not that great, couldnt even manage 100x.

    I still play these as they are unique n enjoyable, i will beat rhino one day
     

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  22. Jun 23, 2015
  23. Perez777

    Perez777 Experienced Member

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    WMS-It is the most roguish software..
    Money for a wind.
    The bonus drops out time in 500 spin and gives x10 (bonus guarante).
    Fckn bithes.
     
  24. Jun 23, 2015
  25. kou187

    kou187 Senior Member MM

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    I totally agree with you to a point. But in my opinion and experience with the slots you mentioned it is about clicking the button at the right time and being in that lucky person who the random generator picks for a huge payout. Some months i have months like you have described were i cant hit anything on any wms slots but netent and mg keep me a float. And then every few months the wms will pay out crazy. Seems how it always goes for me, Some months i can put 50 quid on a few sites and withdraw thousands and some months i can deposit nearly a thousand and not get even a hundred pound win. Just how it goes unfortunately
     
  26. Jun 24, 2015
  27. kazzi

    kazzi Experienced Member

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    Well Zeus III actually made me quit gambling horribole 20k+ spins in 2-3weeks biggest win 96x in freespins with 4retriggers, else i think my biggest was 40-50x, worst session was ~2300spins with none feature.

    Had a little luck with other WMS slots but they do seem tight as hell, but right now i dont really care cant play again before 29may 2016 if i really want too again love the danish lockout system no way back if you signup before the 1year is gone.
     
  28. Jun 24, 2015
  29. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

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    the pay like land casino slots

    the big wins are not the often play Montezuma if anything i hit 3000 times bet on 90c bet when it starts going it really startsgoing
     
  30. Jun 24, 2015
  31. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    no doubt i thought it was just me WMS software is just bent ,same as IGT softwares they cost a awful lot of money & countless spins for a very poor return , there once in a blue moon hits they can show they pay but how much is the true cost ??

    im pretty done with both of those softwares last night did over 500 quid in bruce lee never seen a win above 9 times bet , hit a feature this didn't make it too ten either & yes i understand is high variance but there's only so many times you can play & get crippled before the tin foil hat comes out :D
     
  32. Jun 24, 2015
  33. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Too late!

    William's interactive slots: tin foil.jpg,Jun 24, 2015

    This thread could be about any provider, gotta take the rough with the smooth (which does come...eventually!)
     
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