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Will we (americans) get our money?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by MrVan, Oct 2, 2006.

    Oct 2, 2006
  1. MrVan

    MrVan Dormant account

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    wisconsin
    Even if we are not allowed to deposit at online casinos anymore, will we still be able to receive money from them? Let's say an offshore casino offers me a no deposit bonus (even though I'm pretty sure I've gotten them all by now :rolleyes: ) and I win money, is there anything in this "law" that says we can't accept money from online casinos or companies like Neteller, or is it just that we can't deposit? I'm confused about this and am just hoping that the $3000 that is supposedly on the way to my bank account from Click2Pay will be there tomorrow or Tuesday. I did an EFT withdrawal on Wednesday and it's not there yet...

    also I have $80 in comp money coming from colosseum casino (i wagered $81,000 in that run i had last week) and I am hoping I will still be able to cash out if I meet wagering requirements.
     
  2. Oct 2, 2006
  3. satori

    satori Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Unknown
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    No forwarding address
    I'm nervous too ...
     
  4. Oct 2, 2006
  5. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Money

    There will most likely be a time lag before the flow dries up. Neteller will not want to alienate customers if it can help it, and there will be no dispute as to who the funds belong to. If banks refuse transfers directly from Neteller, they will find another way.
    There is still 2 weeks before this most likely gets signed into law, and this should allow time to extract any large amounts of money from Neteller, however refunding Neteller has probably become more difficult.
    If money is already in Neteller, it is probably worth looking at getting the Neteller ATM card as a backup means of getting at the money. This card works internationally, so even if US ATM machines are set to reject it, there are other countries nearby - worth the cost of the trip if enough money is there (as long as not too much is brought back at a time).
    If the measure only targets the transfer of funds to the offshore sites, money already offshore will be unaffected, and US players who are winning will have little problem if the casinos are still prepared to accept the business.
    The risk to executives comes from being on American soil. If they can avoid this, they should be OK.
    US players should be extra vigilant though, as many casinos that still market to the US will be likely to be a little bit shady.
     
  6. Oct 2, 2006
  7. sneakattack

    sneakattack Dormant account PABnononaccred

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    good call on the atm card
    I can see myself driving around canada looking stopping at every bank and withdrawing the max the machine allows, and then heading to the next one.
     
  8. Oct 2, 2006
  9. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

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    Retired
    Location:
    Arizona City, Az
    Re

    wow, what if you won a sper progressive. I can just see only gettign the max $500 a day when you win a #165,000 jackpot. That would suck,lol

    Ama
     
  10. Oct 2, 2006
  11. soflat

    soflat Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Scientist
    Location:
    Florida

    LOL. Is gambling online legal in Canada?

    Maybe they'll organize excursions up there for Americans to play online, or at least withdraw their money.
     
  12. Oct 2, 2006
  13. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Selling out
    Location:
    Vancouver



    YUP,
    I dont think it will be banned in Canada, for one thing all winnings from Casinos, lotteries, bingo etc are non taxable, so the government doesnt feel it is not getting its fair shake, and then they would have to deal with the Indians (Kanawahke).
     
  14. Oct 2, 2006
  15. satori

    satori Dormant account

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    No forwarding address
    LOL! I was actually thinking, maybe I'll have to go to another country to get my winnings. I live 20 minutes from Mexico.. hmmm.

    I don't use my bank for transactions, mostly I use Payspark and prepaid debit cards. I deliberately have stayed away from bank/Neteller transactions for privacy reasons. Hopefully, this method will keep working.
     
  16. Oct 2, 2006
  17. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    You said a mouthful there!! It would be revolution, and I'm not kidding.

    Maybe I should start a bed and breakfast, with in-room computers preloaded with the most popular online casinos/poker rooms? Offer weekend gambling junkets? ;)
     
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  18. Oct 2, 2006
  19. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

    Occupation:
    Selling out
    Location:
    Vancouver

    Sounds like the right direction, run with it!!!
     
  20. Oct 3, 2006
  21. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    Great idea, except for those damned "one account per computer/house/name/address/IP address/public shared environment/state/province/country/continent" rules.

    Maybe they'll relax this restriction for profitable Bed, Breakfast and Blackjack houses such as yours?

    Nice to see you back Pinababy69!
     
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  22. Oct 3, 2006
  23. dirk_dangerous

    dirk_dangerous Dormant account

    All players from the United States should withdrawal any and all money from online casinos and sportsbooks.

    In addition, you should start your withdrawals from Neteller.

    This will only get worse for U.S. players. There is no point in taking any chances.

    Am I being overly pessimistic? Perhaps, but remember what BetonUS did, they closed down U.S. operations and they have yet to pay back any money owed to players from the U.S.

    Time for a new hobby folks.
     
  24. Oct 3, 2006
  25. paul02085

    paul02085 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Fishing :)
    Location:
    USA
    done and done.
     
  26. Oct 3, 2006
  27. MrVan

    MrVan Dormant account

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    wisconsin
    right but why would my bank refuse to accept money... there is nothing in this new law that says US banks can't receive money from neteller/firepay/click2pay etc. is there?
     
  28. Oct 3, 2006
  29. SlotsWizard

    SlotsWizard Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    I currently work for the Wizard of Odds
    Location:
    North of Antarctica
    I think it may have been alluded to in some of the wording (I could be wrong) but the point is, if the ISPs block access to NETeller, you are S.O.L. Even if you have the ATM card - you won't be able to log on to NETeller to withdraw to it.
     
  30. Oct 3, 2006
  31. dirk_dangerous

    dirk_dangerous Dormant account

    It won't matter whether you can transfer money or not. Many operations have stopped taking bets from U.S. players. More will follow in the coming days. Microgaming will probably make the same announcement.

    There won't be any reputable places for U.S. players to play.

    That may change down the road, but for now, U.S. citizens are pretty much out of the picture.

    I repeat, if you have money on balance in an online casino, get it out now. If you have money in Neteller, start withdrawing now.
     
  32. Oct 3, 2006
  33. silkprint

    silkprint Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Yup ...I work
    Location:
    Mass
    I didn't think this would happen as fast as it is . Still hoping some of these casinos are jumping the gun and that things will change back in the coming weeks . I know it's wishful thinking .
     
  34. Oct 3, 2006
  35. dirk_dangerous

    dirk_dangerous Dormant account

    No change in the near future. Don't follow the advice of any webmasters. They won't give you objective information IMO, they have too much money to lose.

    The fact is, most affiliate webmasters are screwed. They will not make money without the U.S. market. Many onlline casinos, sportsbooks and poker rooms will close up shop within the next few months.

    When the dust settles, there will only be a handful of online casinos, sportsbooks and poker rooms.

    When the dust settles, only a handful of affiliate sites will remain in operation.

    Believe me, many, many players are moving massive amounts of money out of casinos, sportsbooks, poker rooms and Neteller as I write this.

    This is my last warning to players. Get your money out now.

    Sorry, but the fact is:The end is here, now!.
     
  36. Oct 3, 2006
  37. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

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    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Knock it off, chicken little, we got your frickin' point the first time. :mad:

    Way to encourage the knee-jerk and panic reactions.
     
  38. Oct 3, 2006
  39. spearmaster

    spearmaster RIP Ted

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    Devil's Advocate
    Location:
    Heaven
    With a few exceptions, of course. I think you can safely follow the advice of a few webmasters in here.

    Correct.

    Incorrect.

    Maybe.

    Irrelevant.

    Sorry, but I take exception to this. People *do* live outside the US, after all.
     
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