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Will an e-wallet reveal to the casino where you stay?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by stanny, Mar 4, 2007.

    Mar 4, 2007
  1. stanny

    stanny Dormant account

    Occupation:
    IT specialist
    Location:
    Kuala Lumpur
    Hi there,

    My brother is interested in playing at a casino which I already have cleared. He stays at a different household. The thing is, his credit card address is under my same household thus his e-wallet has to be the same or the credit card transaction will throw an error (not sure about this). So let's just say he leaves it alone and just go ahead and sign up at a casino using his current address and deposit using his e-wallet with a different address (my address), will that work?

    I just don't want the casino to think he is abusing the bonus because they don't allow two accounts under the same household, as what they always state under their T&C.

    Please provide some insight on this, thanks all.
     
  2. Mar 4, 2007
  3. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    My guess (and that's all it is) is that no, the e-wallet company has no reason to tell the casino personal details.
    To do so would surely be a breach of confidentiality...
    I think he should be OK.
     
  4. Mar 4, 2007
  5. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Not Necessarily.

    This may not be so. There was a complaint a while back from a player who had his US address registered with Neteller, but signed up and played in South Korea, where he was on a two year posting. The casino refused to pay up, because his Neteller address did not match the Korean address registered at the casino. He too was puzzled as to how on earth the casino knew this in the first place. They insisted that he change his Neteller address to match that he was currently using before his account could be unlocked.

    Clearly, casinos DO manage to find out your registered Neteller details in order to check these against those held for the casino account. It is a high risk that the same would happen in the case of a player registering at his current address, but having bills sent to the household of another player at the same casino. This would almost certainly get any cash-ins audited, and it would be best to ask the casino beforehand so that they enter into the contract fully aware of this situation rather than it only coming to light at cash-in time.
     
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  6. Mar 4, 2007
  7. casinocide

    casinocide Dormant account

    Occupation:
    think about it
    Location:
    somewhere GPS can't find
    Neteller's bad habits

    That sounds like an e cash direct trick. Anyone here ever tried to actually comply with a request like that? LOL. Neteller will give all casinos the following information on every transaction:

    1) First Name and last name. Make sure you spell these two exactly right otherwise you'll find lots of money disappearing. For instance if your name is Jonathan on your Neteller account and you use the name John, they'll happilly deny your cash out and keep your money, for your own protection.

    2) Your address, zip code, last ip address used to sign on to Neteller and country of residence. If any of this information doesn't match you'll get audited and have to send in documents. If, for instance, you reside in South Korea at a military base and don't pay any utilities they'll happily confiscate your deposit + winnings, of course this is done to protect their players from fraud. Ironically, the only way then to actually get your money would be to commit fraud. The only people good enough to do that are the exact crowd the casinos say they're stopping by taking this type of rediculous measure.

    3) Your email address will always be given.

    4) If a casino tells Neteller that they are doing an "investigation" you can be assured that Neteller will give them absolutely every piece of information that they have on you. The burden of proof is not on the casino to prove that they are legitimately investigating fraud but instead is then on the player to provide all the documents the casino requests, and every piece of data better match to the T or they'll happily steal all of your money, of course, to protect you and other players from fraud. Realistically, this should almost never happen because casino fraud departments actually have real stuff to do. But be advised that it can.

    5) Oh yea, did I mention that Neteller reps are specifically trained to be vague and if necessary, deceptive about this stuff? Please don't respond to this and say it isn't true because some Neteller rep told you that they only give out your first name, last name and e-mail. The CSR's are told that this is the case and the security people are trained to be deceptive. They'll lie till they're blue in the face about these facts all day long.
     
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  8. Mar 4, 2007
  9. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

    Occupation:
    Tradesman
    Location:
    USA
    Dude, I almost got the impression you were a fraudster. But here it looks like you have been to the school of hard knocks. Thanks for the insight.
     
  10. Mar 5, 2007
  11. stanny

    stanny Dormant account

    Occupation:
    IT specialist
    Location:
    Kuala Lumpur
    Darn, that means my brother can't play? This is for Click2Pay actually.

    Can he just change his address in the e-wallet? Though it will be different from address from his credit card's.

    Also, when they say submit a utility bill, will an utility bill under my dad's name be good? I don't pay any bills under my name cause I'm living with my parents.

    Thanks all.
     

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