Why you should never play in Stake, and how they cheat you!

errorhunter

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First problem, there seems to be a pattern in the slots, and when you play accordingly, it will eventually crash and cheat you of a win or bonus round, proving they are rigged.

Example of errors:
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Full videos:

Additionally money for the bet was charged from your account - and the bet gets "stuck".
But this you dont know about. This is where they also steal some of your money.
When and if the bet eventually gets unstuck - the value of the bet was of course 0. So you would never have won on that bet. But you neither get the original bet amount back.

Screenshots of 0 value bets showing up in history:
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Communications with vip host:
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UNSETTLED BETS!? So, proof: previous spins DOES matter - AND it is calculated from previous spins, regardless of provider! WOW!
Never heard back from their investigation on anything regarding the stuck bets.

Communications with bugs department:

THEN I HEAR NOTHING!!!

Communications with "actor" Eddie Miroslav:

AND I HEAR NOTHING!!
Shut him up real good.

Then to top it all of, you can get no help with solving this from anyone:

More screenshots collection can be found here:
 
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Jono777

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I wish I had the motivation to read that lot, I really do!

However I genuinely do wish you the very best in getting some sort of amicable solution moving forward.
 

dunover

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First problem, there seems to be a pattern in the slots, and when you play accordingly, it will eventually crash and cheat you of a win or bonus round, proving they are rigged.

Example of errors:
View attachment 157791

View attachment 157792


Full videos:

Additionally money for the bet was charged from your account - and the bet gets "stuck".
But this you dont know about. This is where they also steal some of your money.
When and if the bet eventually gets unstuck - the value of the bet was of course 0. So you would never have won on that bet. But you neither get the original bet amount back.

Screenshots of 0 value bets showing up in history:
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View attachment 157805

Communications with vip host:
View attachment 157806
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UNSETTLED BETS!? So, proof: previous spins DOES matter - AND it is calculated from previous spins, regardless of provider! WOW!
Never heard back from their investigation on anything regarding the stuck bets.

Communications with bugs department:





THEN I HEAR NOTHING!!!

Communications with "actor" Eddie Miroslav:








AND I HEAR NOTHING!!
Shut him up real good.



Then to top it all of, you can get no help with solving this from anyone:



More screenshots collection can be found here:
Right, please do not include images containing your e-mail address and other details - I just had to delete them, also deleted a private message you posted that you received from @maxd which therefore presumably was private between you and should not have been posted in public!

Thanks!
 

maxd

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FYI removed "ROGUE WARNING!" from the thread title. Classifying a casino as Rogue is something best left to the man who does it, @Casinomeister himself. Also Casinomeister Warnings are usually posted by him or me, wouldn't want the current thread to be confused with one of those.

Also @errorhunter , you'd be well advised to read the Forum Rules . They're there to guide you and help you NOT make the kinds of mistakes that you are making which then require our intervention. The same goes for the PAB rules by the way but obviously that ship has sailed.
 

errorhunter

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Sorry about this, now I can no longer edit the post.
I censored the email addresses.

PAB was already closed because their licensed in Curacao.

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L&L-Jan

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Proofs that gameplay during a ddos really affects the service... Youre just running in to stuck rounds due to latency issues during the ddos. The rounds might seem unsettled in their system as they have little clue what happened to your bet. Bottom line is that the bet never reached providers services, server is not responding in time and you get an error in game and console.

Collecting a few game errors does not proof that Stake is rogue.

Well, changing RTP from day to day is already rogue behaviour but I cant proof that as I dont play there. But besides that, these are just generic game isseus due to network issues if you ask me.

Regarding unsettled bets they can just reach out to the game provider, ask to close them and ask for the potential win of the round (because prior before you enter the feature, if there was any, the win is already known) and settle the win with you.

I would change the tone of voice and look for solutions with your direct contact, instead of going mental on whatsapp and here on the forum.
 

errorhunter

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errorhunter

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Proofs that gameplay during a ddos really affects the service... Youre just running in to stuck rounds due to latency issues during the ddos. The rounds might seem unsettled in their system as they have little clue what happened to your bet. Bottom line is that the bet never reached providers services, server is not responding in time and you get an error in game and console.

Collecting a few game errors does not proof that Stake is rogue.

Well, changing RTP from day to day is already rogue behaviour but I cant proof that as I dont play there. But besides that, these are just generic game isseus due to network issues if you ask me.

Regarding unsettled bets they can just reach out to the game provider, ask to close them and ask for the potential win of the round (because prior before you enter the feature, if there was any, the win is already known) and settle the win with you.

I would change the tone of voice and look for solutions with your direct contact, instead of going mental on whatsapp and here on the forum.
A few game errors? Yes, its just a few. Probably just some DDOS attack, that happens every time I play by changing bets.
And I already tried solving it with my direct contact 4+ months ago until she forwarded me to the boss since they were unable to solve anything regarding errors or the stuck bets.

Why they have 0 value when they got unstuck, nobody could explain even after 3 months with investigation.

Ang generic network errors are different. They say connection is lost etc, not contact support and "internal server error"
Also why I recorded it on video.

But this discussion I already have had.

Thanks for your input.
 

errorhunter

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What was the date range of all those few error screenshot you show here? I only see time but no date.
Since May when I contacted my VIP host, and everytime since.
The first screenshots are from PC, so you can see time and date there.
You can also see time and date in email communications. And I made the first video on PC in may.

Then I have replicated the same on phone with different ISP, and mobile data.
Last video was recorded 14th August.

I posted 50 screenshots, but only the first 5 are visible.
 
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geggs1981

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Loads of online casinos do tricks like this now. We are all being played but you’ll prove it. Best thing to do is stop playing and keep your money in ya pocket.
 

neon claws

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Finally, the proof I've been searching for! ! Now I can finally stop playing these RIGGED games from these CHEAT FRAUDS thanks to your incontrovertible 100% PROOF I now know the truth!
Thank you Fredrik!

I feel so bad for casino support workers since these guys worked out you can just press F12 to see the PROOF of the RIGGED U.S. ELECTORAL SYSTEM.
 
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