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Why can't USA play

Discussion in 'America the Beautiful' started by rena35, Apr 26, 2015.

    Apr 26, 2015
  1. rena35

    rena35 Senior Member

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    I have a question that has been on my mind. Why can't USA play at some casino's? Is it because the casino's will not let us or is it something behind the decision :confused:
     
  2. Apr 26, 2015
  3. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Basically it's not illegal for them to offer you games or for you as an American to play at them, but it's unlawful in most states for banks or card companies to process online gaming transactions. So the casinos have a problem paying you, plus they may want to keep on the good side of the US authorities for the future when it becomes legalized in more states. It's basically a form of protectionism.
     
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  4. Apr 26, 2015
  5. john39

    john39 Senior Member PABnonaccred

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    also some of the game design companies do not licensed the games for play in the US because of whatever agreements they have with the content partners
     
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  6. May 1, 2015
  7. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    google words and phrases like UIGEA, Neteller arrests, ewallets seized, etc.
     
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  8. May 8, 2015
  9. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    newbies might also want to check out You must register/login in order to see the link. at the FBI website.
     
  10. May 29, 2015
  11. dreamguardian1

    dreamguardian1 Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

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    Please note that this is SLOWLY changing but the regulations on this are still very tight.
     
  12. May 30, 2015
  13. jumboshrimp

    jumboshrimp Experienced Member MM PABinit

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    I remember the day when U.S. could play a lot more. It had something to do with a senator spearheading a campaign to illegalize it, I thought. But maybe that was just for poker.
     
  14. May 30, 2015
  15. Mousey

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    The UIGEA which made it illegal for USA banks to process unlawful (non regulated off shore) gambling transactions remains in effect. Decent article at Wiki You must register/login in order to see the link.. This is why USA facing casinos use processors that work around the regulation. That regulation is also why if our debit card shows some strange transactions we're not sure of we try to get the casinos to clear it up and try to keep our banks out of it.
     
  16. May 30, 2015
  17. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

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    hmm

    what about a rent a box service for us players they just log into the overseas box load the games and play
     
  18. May 30, 2015
  19. dreamguardian1

    dreamguardian1 Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

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    This is all true but it is still changing, gamling is becoming more and more legal because it is a personal choice. But it is going to be highly regulated and you know the government wants their portion because they just have to butt into people's personal lives and get every penny they can out of people. Cheap skates.

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  20. May 30, 2015
  21. Mousey

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    I'd like to see the real figures for how many millions the gov confiscated and kept from the likes of NETeller, other ewallets, and processors and the scam processor they themselves set up as a 'sting'.
     
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  22. May 30, 2015
  23. dreamguardian1

    dreamguardian1 Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

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    Well, you can bet they didnt destroy that much money as they claim to do. It went to the government probably. Unless someone can provide me visual undisputed proof that is not what happened wont change my mind.:rolleyes:
     
  24. May 30, 2015
  25. Cassaon-casino

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    I agree with what the other posters said.

    The United States is still plagued by congressional, national, legislative and pseudo-moralistic issues. Although some states like Delaware, Nevada and New Jersey have regulated it, as a whole the country is still losing billions of dollars worth of income that could benefit its economy. Using a computer to place a wager online is not a social ill.

    The so-called ”moral lobby” is one of the main reasons why online gambling has not been legalised in the United States. Even though the AGA and the gambling lobby has seen the light, this loosly structured group continues to propagate what they call the ”moral dangers” of gambling. They are made up of religious groups, self-styled populists who’s intention is to save the American public. Yet when it comes to raising money for their futile efforts then gambling is good enough.
     
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  26. May 30, 2015
  27. online18casino

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    FYI while you can play at most Real Time Gaming casinos (the largest provider to the US currently) and many of the above posts are correct. When the UIGA was passed software providers such as PlayTech and Microgaming pulled all of their casinos from accepting US players. Now the regulations have softened a bit, but they still view it as a risk as the online gambling laws are very unclear in the US (not at all black and white, ask two lawyers one question and you will get two answers).

    That is the short answer to the question.
     
  28. Jun 3, 2015
  29. dreamguardian1

    dreamguardian1 Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

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    LOL you can ask any person one question and you will get a different answer not just from attorneys. It appears laws are now open to individual interpretation. Which reminds me that there are so many laws on the books that any person in any given day has committed at least 1 felony. Are they going to charge every person? No they are just going to try and go after the big fish in a very small pond:cool:
     
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  30. Jun 11, 2015
  31. dinahbrand

    dinahbrand Experienced Member MM

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    The interesting thing is that often the same people who complain about restrictions will then vote for the same pompous politicians who implement the restrictions. There is something very strange about the psyche of American voters who vote against their own interest. Some type of pleasure in self inflicted pain. It's amazingly sad.
     
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  32. Jun 11, 2015
  33. Casinomeister

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  34. Jun 11, 2015
  35. Cassaon-casino

    Cassaon-casino Full Member webby

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    The fact that the site (Borgata) has no withdrawal limits and that withdrawals could be made over weekends bodes well.

    Just read an article over at CalvinAyre that Borgata just signed up Net Entertainment to provide some of its games.
     

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