Why aren't PRISM recognised ?

[gmblpdam]

For what it's worth I have had primarly good expeirences with Prism. While they always take their sweet time in paying me, I have always been paid in the end. A couple of phone calls to Chris usually speeds up the process a little bit.

 

[Wagerjunction]

Hamptons

Guys - thought i would clear up any confusion after seeing my partner mentioned in the thread

Hamptons is not part of Connecto - and is part of the Wager Junction group along with Windows ,King Solomons ,Geisha Lounge ,Grand Aces ,Gold Key and Magic Oasis.

I just wanted to highlight this fact and the fact that buy the end of this year i hope to have Windows on the accredited list on Casinomeister ,there is however a lot of work to be done between now and then.

Have a great day

Greg

 

[chuchu59]

Guys - thought i would clear up any confusion after seeing my partner mentioned in the thread

Hamptons is not part of Connecto - and is part of the Wager Junction group along with Windows ,King Solomons ,Geisha Lounge ,Grand Aces ,Gold Key and Magic Oasis.

I just wanted to highlight this fact and the fact that buy the end of this year i hope to have Windows on the accredited list on Casinomeister ,there is however a lot of work to be done between now and then.

Have a great day

Greg

Well, good luck then. If you can convert Windows, Gold Key and Magic Oasis into the likes of King Solomon and Geisha Lounge, then IMHO they deserve to be accredited.

 

[jetset]

Greg, while you are here perhaps you could also genuinely clarify another aspect of Windows Casino for me?

Are Avi Goldman and Tony Friedman now completely out of the Windows Casino picture, and is there any business connection between the Sirius Poker/Sirius Casino group in which ADLM is involved and Wager Junction?

 

[KasinoKing]

For what it's worth I have had primarly good expeirences with Prism. While they always take their sweet time in paying me, I have always been paid in the end. A couple of phone calls to Chris usually speeds up the process a little bit.

Hands up all those who think you SHOULD have to phone the casino to get them to pay out YOUR money in a reasonable timeframe...

BTW, I thought the above slating of Wayram was totally out of order. He had a good experience & posted about it - then got torn to shreads! It's not his fault the casino has a 'shady' reputaion. I hope I never see stuff like that again here at CM.

 

[wayram]

Thanks for your support KasinoKing, i did not expect the personal hits.

 

[Wagerjunction]

Involved with Windows

I think that i have stated this on numerous occasions but for the benefit of everyone i can state the following :

There is no Tony Friedman or anyone else from the old regime involved with any of the Casinos we have taken over.

As for this statement :

is there any business connection between the Sirius Poker/Sirius Casino group in which ADLM is involved and Wager Junction?

I dont know what or who the above is so i cannot make any comments on them.

I hope that clarifies everything.

Regards
Greg

 

[jetset]

Thank you - it looks as if Avi G et al are now concentrating on their siriusplayerscasino site, but there are some very "lookalike" Windows elements over there.

 

[mucullus]

Thank you - it looks as if Avi G et al are now concentrating on their siriusplayerscasino site, but there are some very "lookalike" Windows elements over there.

Not only look-alike elements, if you choose to download siriusplayerscasino it actually downloads windows casino!

 

[jetset]

LOL! Thanks, M - this is a strange industry alright!

 

[Wagerjunction]

Strange but true

Not so strange - it is a Windows clone - something that was set up before we took over and something that i am currently battling with.

Windows had an archaic setup and the unravelling of this is going to take a while yet.

I learn more and more about it all the time.I am finding out who owns this particular site and will be having a chat with them.

Best regards
Greg

 

[jetset]

I guess a lot depends on the conditions surrounding the sale of the Windows Casino brand to your company, Greg - on the face of it, it would seem problematic from your perspective to have these clones still using a brand which your company has purchased and to which you are sincerely trying to add value and improvement. For one thing, they are outside your control and will no doubt continue doing whatever they want. Confusing.

It does raise eyebrows however, when it turns out that this clone is apparently delivering online gambling services to siriusplayerscasino, one of the owners of which is ADLM (Avi G) who was closely associated with the *old* Windows in its less than stellar incarnation.

I don't envy you trying to unravel this network, which has always been complicated.

 

[mucullus]

I don't think this is a clone, it's the genuine windows casino client you can download from that page. The download points to xhttp://webmaster.windowscasino.com/SmartDownload.asp?affid=26595. Looks like an ordinary affiliate link hiding behind a pseudo-casino front.

 

[Wagerjunction]

Disucssion

Ok guys - not sure how this got from Prism to windows but i am always happy to have a discussion.

Mcullus - what you are describing is a clone - i.e a different domain heading to the same Casino

This is a legacy that i have had to live with and am at the moment sorting out. I must tell you that i knew the previous owners of windows but do not know an Avi G .This is probably a pseudo name that they used for goodness only knows what .

The owner of the sirius site is readily available if you check a Whois record and it is not AVI G

I can tell you quite categorically that whatever happened in the past on windows will never ever happen again with us.

I am not saying that we wont make mistakes - we might do - everybody does but we are a far more professionally run outfit with a lot more resources
and have a long term strategy for Windows Casino which when unveiled will i think please a lot of people .

Have a fantastic day guys

Regards
Greg

 

[jetset]

Greg, I'm sure no-one doubts that you are posting based on what you know, but Avi Goldman's / ADLM Ltd connections to Windows go way back - hell, he was once even cited by Microsoft when they were making intellectual property waves over the use of the name for the casino.

www.siriuspoker.com

This is an intriguing site owned by Island Poker (Europe) Limited and licensed in Kahnawake. Island Poker is owned by a partnership of eMoney Invest / BVI Investment / ADLM Limited and it operates the Poker Profit.com network which currently claims 45 000 players. The site has a Windows Casino-like "feel" to with the risible references to Safebet, the Gambling Commission and e-gambling commission and the non-linking use of the IGC logo.

It also links to www.siriusplayerscasino.com, www.siriusplayanddeal.com and a sportsbnook site that is currently under construction. It all points to a growing new Avi Goldman inspired group.

www.siriusplayerscasino.com

See above. 125 games powered by RTG. The mystery is the Windows connection when this property was spun off to King Soloman's group earlier this year.

 

[Wagerjunction]

Avi goldman

Hi Jetset

I met the owners of Windows but did not meet anyone by the above name so you could be right - there could be a person running around with that name.

This whole scenario is about to change in any event.

sirius is something that currently diverts to windows and there is not to much that i can do about it at present as these were all deals signed a while back.

We did have the option to take Island Poker as well when we bought Windows but we declined for various reasons that i will not get into now.

I can only assume that the guys running it now are associated with the old windows regime if i can term it like that.

Regards
Greg

 

[David2000]

If you're having problems here with their payouts, please PAB and I'll get it to the right person.

Chris did not pay me $800 +, Could you help me out?

 

[irebal]

Chris did not pay me $800 +, Could you help me out?

So did you get paid? I've been waiting about a month for $1000. I did get an email from Chris that accounting was having server problems.

 

[winbig]

Here's another reason they're not recognized. They spam the hell out of you after you signup with them, and continue even after you try to unsubscribe numerous times.

They also keep spamming you after you talk to the rep on board here. They keep spamming you after said rep promised you that your address would be removed.

You've had your chance rep. You promised me I would be removed, and I can see now that you lied to me, or dropped the ball. Whichever it was, it's inexcusable.

Be lucky that the FTC could care less about enforcing the CAN-SPAM laws. There's no working remove mechanism (Or I'd be automatically unsub'd already), plus it's been well over 10 days since I have asked to be removed...both are violations.

These mails definately come from Prism themselves, and NOT an affiliate. The IP's in the mail match:

Name: ns2.prism-promos.com
Address: 207.218.239.105

X-Gmail-Received: 41dd1940f61688f63079eb08c8dfa5671cee7bbd
Delivered-To: xxxxxxx@gmail.com
Received: by 10.35.45.7 with SMTP id x7cs358602pyj;
Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:37:11 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.54.125.17 with SMTP id x17mr4496288wrc;
Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <>
Received: from xmail.prismdeals.com ([207.218.239.105])
by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g9si300612wra.2006.07.24.19.08.52;
Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 207.218.239.105 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of xmail.prismdeals.com)
Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by xmail.prismdeals.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0075F1A2869
for <xxxxxxx@gmail.com>; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:27:23 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Come and claim your bonuses today
Reply-To: Prism Casino <promo@prismnews.net>
Errors-To: <admin@mail.prismupdates.com>
To: xxxxxxxx@gmail.com
From: Prism Casino <promo@xmail.prismnews.net>
Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------=_1153787711-24035-0"
MIME-version: 1.0
Message-Id: <20060725012723.0075F1A2869@xmail.prismdeals.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:27:23 -0500 (CDT)

 

[scrollock]

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dont know how the thread got onto grand geishas , but they are sound as a pound.

Re. windows, casino with the most terrible records, but remmeber, its not the casinos or the software, but the owners what decides it reputation, so give them chance.