Software Complaint whitebet.com alleged scam

I write with my deep regret the shameful conduct of this casino . I state I signed in April , this day I have never won anything ! Slots blatantly rigged , you see with the naked eye that are programmed by someone seeing certain users with a huge volume of game and thousands of EUR thrown to the fire , they took advantage further !
It does not exist in heaven or on earth , that in 5 months the maximum balance was of 154 € ! the same slots DEAD OR ALIVE . Seventh last I made something like 35 deposits! For a TOT of 1200 € ! The balance always down ! They give you just the payout preset really a scandal , even though I warned the Maltese authorities , and even the prosecutor of the republic of Rome !
Dear listeners , here we talk about slots , do not talk about bingo or lottery! Are we joking? Around 100,000 € betting volume , and whole days , without compensation or reward. I would not take the side of those who say they are a legalized scam , but when you reveal the usual algorithms and ridiculous payouts in scatters and / or bonuses , something does not. I speak as a player with experience of continuous play for 5 months !! note well five months , not 5 days !!
Even more shocking , the fact that block I chat every time I ask explanations ! For days they have embarked on the road of silence . NOn even respond to emails , why argue that I'm harassing ! ahaahah simply outrageous in theory I have to lose and then I shut up when I have to be well -known strange disconnections , strange leaps of the rollers , winnings latitano from when I checked , that is, from April !
I believe that these people have to go to jail , because I have experience of eight years in all casinos , I have never encountered a software as one of Whitebet . Besides the fact that do not respond denote the arrogance and the arrogance and lack of professionalism and customer service . I am amazed that the " Casinomeister " logo , and are sponsored by a serious forum like this . I would not let it be a mistake, a tampering by these jackals unscrupulous ? I await an answer from the staff . I hope it is clear, that does not speak English because they use google translator.

Ok, so let me get this straight. You've wagered around €100,000, on a game with a payout of ~96%, which means that on average you should've lost €4000 - and you are damn sure that the slots are rigged AGAINST YOU because you've lost €1200?
 
One things for sure, you do have a very 'fitting' username.

Soon to be muzzled and placed in a locked Kennel I feel ;)

they put you with chains attached to a tree in Siberia , to break rocks under heavy snow ,
then comes the pack of " wolves " has come extinct because they have eaten the carcass:lolup:
 
I can smell more Google carcasses ...erm erm, translations coming :eek: :rolleyes: :D

Let's see what you will serve the Siberian Wolfs today! :p :D
 
well, for his own sake, i certainty hope this kid quit with gambling. He doesn't have the right attitude nor the mentality for this business.
 
Are you absolutely sure about this?

32Red definitely have their own servers for MicroGaming as when playing it uses a different C Class IP system (confirmed by using a packet sniffer) - whether it has it's own RNG is only something they can confirm. Also, does this only operate on Quickfire or the download platform as well? A lot of questions but commercially sensitive so have never asked them directly.

When it comes to Rizk, InstaCasino and the like - their Gaming Cloud also uses a very different subnet system for NetEnt and MG Games.

Several posts on the Immortal Romance thread over the years about the frequency of cold spells on 32Red v Rest of the casinos. This is where the foilhat comes in....
 
32Red definitely have their own servers for MicroGaming as when playing it uses a different C Class IP system (confirmed by using a packet sniffer) - whether it has it's own RNG is only something they can confirm.

When it comes to Rizk, InstaCasino and the like - their Gaming Cloud also uses a very different subnet system for NetEnt and MG Games.

Several posts on the Immortal Romance thread over the years about the frequency of cold spells on 32Red v Rest of the casinos.

Never mind all that Nicola. What type of wolf are you?

Here's me:

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32Red definitely have their own servers for MicroGaming as when playing it uses a different C Class IP system (confirmed by using a packet sniffer) - whether it has it's own RNG is only something they can confirm. Also, does this only operate on Quickfire or the download platform as well? A lot of questions but commercially sensitive so have never asked them directly.

When it comes to Rizk, InstaCasino and the like - their Gaming Cloud also uses a very different subnet system for NetEnt and MG Games.

Several posts on the Immortal Romance thread over the years about the frequency of cold spells on 32Red v Rest of the casinos. This is where the foilhat comes in....

So we have a clear statement from someone from inside the industry that thankfully still have a player mindset and acts as a fellow Member, that put at risk the preconceived idea that all games run the same from same servers, operators have no control etc crap ive read loads of times... and the debate is over...

Question is why they choose and are permitted to choose by the useless regulators and providers propietary servers if not for the purpose of altering the RTP as they wish? Is like our Novos in national lottery agencies that all are connected somewhere in the capital through internet and are strictly regulated VS the same Novos in one cafe-bar that owner choose to alter the machine as he wish, all being total crap during the holidays when people play slots the most.
Ive been told by others and myself i perpetuated the false speech that they all run from the same servers with the same RTP governed by an established RNG and at the end of the day is down to luck. Looks like is not..debate is over return to how IR suddenly turns cold thread.
 
So we have a clear statement from someone from inside the industry that thankfully still have a player mindset and acts as a fellow Member, that put at risk the preconceived idea that all games run the same from same servers, operators have no control etc crap ive read loads of times... and the debate is over...

Question is why they choose and are permitted to choose by the useless regulators and providers propietary servers if not for the purpose of altering the RTP as they wish? Is like our Novos in national lottery agencies that all are connected somewhere in the capital through internet and are strictly regulated VS the same Novos in one cafe-bar that owner choose to alter the machine as he wish, all being total crap during the holidays when people play slots the most.
Ive been told by others and myself i perpetuated the false speech that they all run from the same servers with the same RTP governed by an established RNG and at the end of the day is down to luck. Looks like is not..debate is over return to how IR suddenly turns cold thread.

each soul on this forum are acting like a fellow member to me !! but they have also right to give thr opinions whether u like it or not !!
looks like i did mis sumthing here . :rolleyes:

As for ur statmnt, I know for sure if you knew how a slot does his work based on his
calculation , you would disagree with your own statement.

Oh btw, just my opinion . I'm still ur fellow member with a player mindset !!:cool:
 
Bad formulation. What i meant is that she didnt withdraw from his membership role to free her thoughts and leave opinions even after started working in the industry. One reason to use private servers is to kill the occasional lag found on main servers due to greater activity, that would mean that they put the players experience first haha

Now that you know better how slots are working then enlighten me why they want to control the 'signal' using different servers if not for their own administration of the hosted games/slots that may permit fishy intervention. Maybe is not necessarily to have some sort of control panel or any settings of the game, maybe the games settings are unbreakable, but what is for sure proved by otobet and the likes, is that the games can be cloned to alter the RTP and if the games don.t run from official servers there is always the thought. Any path is opened for some sort of cheating once regulator and provider aside permit this... and where money is there always have to be a crook and not necessarily has to be a player.

Tell me facts that you can prove not word of mouth like all games run from software provider servers BS dismounted already...there is not enough transparency for important things like this. What else they should not control but they do?
 
Bad formulation. What i meant is that she didnt withdraw from his membership role to free her thoughts and leave opinions even after started working in the industry. One reason to use private servers is to kill the occasional lag found on main servers due to greater activity, that would mean that they put the players experience first haha

Now that you know better how slots are working then enlighten me why they want to control the 'signal' using different servers if not for their own administration of the hosted games/slots that may permit fishy intervention. Maybe is not necessarily to have some sort of control panel or any settings of the game, maybe the games settings are unbreakable, but what is for sure proved by otobet and the likes, is that the games can be cloned to alter the RTP and if the games don.t run from official servers there is always the thought. Any path is opened for some sort of cheating once regulator and provider aside permit this... and where money is there always have to be a crook and not necessarily has to be a player.

Tell me facts that you can prove not word of mouth like all games run from software provider servers BS dismounted already...there is not enough transparency for important things like this. What else they should not control but they do?

yeah, she Looks like a smart bird. I'll give you that. I know people who're working in the industry for 25 years and they would'nt agree with you though.
legal casinos who got thr license and approved by GC, are required to set Those slots between 80 and 95 percent (depending on provider and serv They use an dealing with). which is already regulated by provider.

Those slots giving a certain return over time ( which is counted over 100,000s of spins).
It's about ur timing . U could play on a slot with 95 prct RTP , and end up with nothing . while sum other kid playing at a slot with 85 prct rtp ( at the same time u're playing ) and end up with few 1000 box wins . Casino has No control over that .

Yes , casino can mess up with rtp , by RESETING those reels more often than they allowd to , and slow down the process ( especially land casinos ). And That's when it coms to TRTP .
They can be easily caught baised on TRTP. any casino who's approved by GC, would not dare to take suche risk cuz they know damn well, they would run out of bussines in NO TIME.

Btw, why the hell would they ?? They do'nt need that kind of stuff . The legal RTP of those slots is set up in such a way that casino in the final IS the winner .

Do you u realy think sum poor basterd invest mls of euro's / set up a casino to finaly give the money
to Chrty ??? ( Mother Teresa is dead long time ago ) .
 
I see some people drifting off in the tin foil-area direction :p

There are and have always been dedicated servers, which are reserved for a specific operation, if they pay for it.
All that means is that there will be (or should be) less problems regarding latency, stability, and even security.
If 32Red for instance use a dedicated server, then this still means they are using a server controlled by MG, but only available to them.


They have no control over the Games, or if they do, then no more then other clients that use shared servers, or the quickfire platform.
There may be small differences, but nothing that would interfere with the game's integrity and RTP..
 
What I posted was based on what I see while playing a slot like anyone else. I have a piece of software running in the system tray which shows all outgoing+incoming connections and there hostnames/IP addresses. That is how I uncovered those fake NetEnt servers a few months back.

The only thing that is definite (100%) is that 32Red use a different gaming server and/or RNG for their players based on the evidence of screenshots on this thread and my own research on the end connection IP data. Unless someone from 32Red confirms or denies we will never know what exactly is different.

Whatever happens, be assured everything at a genuine licensed casino is fully audited and there is no funny business. The RNG software/hardware is in a CCTV, securely locked room on the Isle of Man.

At the end of the day, it's all random and we the players or they the operators have no control on gameplay.
 
What I posted was based on what I see while playing a slot like anyone else. I have a piece of software running in the system tray which shows all outgoing+incoming connections and there hostnames/IP addresses. That is how I uncovered those fake NetEnt servers a few months back.
The only thing that is definite (100%) is that 32Red use a different gaming server and/or RNG for their players based on the evidence of screenshots on this thread and my own research on the end connection IP data. Unless someone from 32Red confirms or denies we will never know what exactly is different.

Whatever happens, be assured everything at a genuine licensed casino is fully audited and there is no funny business. The RNG software/hardware is in a CCTV, securely locked room on the Isle of Man.

At the end of the day, it's all random and we the players or they the operators have no control on gameplay
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The Fake Netent servers were exposed back in 2014 :) Unless you're just referring to the latest incarnations. And Novo too.
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/more-netent-stolen-software-rip-offs.65186/

Not strictly true. Gameplay is affected by RTP, and some software allows different math models like RTG.
Actually, on some games like some IGT and many Bastardcrests, you can affect the gameplay by stake levels. ;)

Just sayin'
 
Wow I've missed this thread. Which makes you wonder.....

If you keep losing at a particular site and think they are crooks, why still play there all this time? It's like getting out a wad of notes, burning them and berating the fire for being too hot :confused:
 
LOL, after having dried up my money, I find the blocked account, Claiming That they do not accept Italian players!All this is the limit of legality.

Last week ALL the casinos of redbet group (redbet, whitebet, heypoker) decided to close ALL their "old" italian accounts.
It is not something decided to consolidate the winnings they had on YOUR account, they simply decided to do it, to ALL italian players.
You are not victim of any conspiracy. I am pretty sure they closed the accounts of players who were UP as well. :rolleyes:

From YOUR point of view, this is a good news. You think this casino acts badly and you were not happy with them.
From MY point of view, this is a very bad news since it was the only place where to play WMS games and some other game which is country restricted.

From YOUR point of view, you can go ahead and enjoy the several casinosh.it our beloved Govt is offering us.
From MY point of view, now I am trying to find out some alternatives.
 
Last week ALL the casinos of redbet group (redbet, whitebet, heypoker) decided to close ALL their "old" italian accounts.
It is not something decided to consolidate the winnings they had on YOUR account, they simply decided to do it, to ALL italian players.
You are not victim of any conspiracy. I am pretty sure they closed the accounts of players who were UP as well. :rolleyes:

From YOUR point of view, this is a good news. You think this casino acts badly and you were not happy with them.
From MY point of view, this is a very bad news since it was the only place where to play WMS games and some other game which is country restricted.

From YOUR point of view, you can go ahead and enjoy the several casinosh.it our beloved Govt is offering us.
From MY point of view, now I am trying to find out some alternatives.

Ciao, cosa ne pensi di vegaswinner? Ieri mi sono registrato e ho depositato 75€. Dicono che accettano i giocatori italiani. Mi sono fidato perchè hanno licenza MGA. Secondo te nei pagamenti sono affidabili? O cercano scuse assurde per non pagare le vincite?
 

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