Which RTG casinos SUCK? Which RULE? Shout it out HERE!

The fact is, if this tread is read Nify and you Jaz don't know what you're talking about. I've done nothing wrong inside the thread but make a post and here ya come, trying to stir up crap. I see why people get banned around here cause you guys lead them on. Not good, you should adjust yourself. If you have facts post them but this crap is nothing more than crap as far as I see it. Someone will see my point.. BTW - Web definitions for slander
words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another. :rolleyes:

you are nuts I said nothing to slander or defame you I am not posting to start a fight
an its JAS not JAZ people get banned cause they dio stupid chit like you are doing right now baiting people
yeah your REP is really damaged sheesh:rolleyes:

Cindy
 
It's ok Nifty, RTG is probably the top U.S. player software, as history shows when you're on top people complain.. ;) Gotta love the RTG threads. :rolleyes:

Read the thread Nifty, I said RTG is "Probably the top U.S. player software" and didn't say how great they were? You're reading into things and thats the problem around here. I bet there's 25 posters tonight that would like to post around here but it's the know it all's that scare them away!!! I'm gone before I get kicked...
 
Sorry JAS, not JAZ why are you calling me nuts? I've not called out names here, please behave. You shouldn't call people names, that's rude and a shill post. Fact.. ;)
 
Sorry JAS, not JAZ why are you calling me nuts? I've not called out names here, please behave. You shouldn't call people names, that's rude and a shill post. Fact.. ;)
A shill post? :confused:
You don't even know the meaning of that word, obviously.
Man you are so out of line in this thread it's embarrassing to read.

I totally agree with everything Nifty said - I would thank him more, but the new limiting system prevents it. Great posts Nifty, and I'm glad at least you stay level headed and cordial when someone has the audacity to disagree with you! :thumbsup:

KK
 
Everyone here knows I respect contrary opinions, but I dont appreciate your attempts to portray me as 'stupid' or 'full of BS' - its childish.
Apologies if you felt I was attacking you per se...I was not. I was just surprised that you would consider RTG's in such a good light anymore.

I "pop in" to RTG's to see if anything has changed...not for a session...JFYI...

Again, apologies if I came on too strong..I was talking in general about RTG's..the shame on you remark was not meant directly at you but at all that think "nothing has changed"....I do get a little excited and upset when it is said...that all is the same...when it is not..this is what makes the casinos continue to fleece the players , because of this ahh well attitude, what can we do mentality...

To make a change to the better..it has been said here, talk with your money...and many will get a fair shake again one day by them , the casinos.
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There will always be that certain amount of people that will continue to believe the IRS is legit, the FDA won't allow bad things in our food, Mercury in our childrens innoculations is safe because they say so, that the H1N1 shot is good for us, that Chemtrails are harmless, that flouride in our drinking water is good for our teeth, that artificial sweetners will help you to lose weight and television won't rot your brain. So it goes the same for casino's, there are those that will defend them to their last breath and those that won't. As long as people are winning "occasionally", then all is good and the cradle is rocking. When the cradle rocks no more then we start waking up. We give our little bits of funds for months on end with nothing more than than a slap on the butt time and time again and it gets pretty old.
That is why we complain. We want to continue playing at RTG's because they have great slots, but just like playing ball, if you keep getting hit in the head with the ball, then it's not fun anymore.
You will ask, then why do you keep playing? Well, because we still have the need to believe.
 
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A shill post? :confused:
You don't even know the meaning of that word, obviously.
Man you are so out of line in this thread it's embarrassing to read.

I totally agree with everything Nifty said - I would thank him more, but the new limiting system prevents it. Great posts Nifty, and I'm glad at least you stay level headed and cordial when someone has the audacity to disagree with you! :thumbsup:

KK



Sometimes shills may be used to downplay legitimate complaints posted by users on the Internet. :rolleyes:
 
Have to agree with Bryan look at what i did this morning

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...if this tread is read Nify and you Jas don't know what you're talking about...I've done nothing wrong.....here ya come, trying to stir up crap...people get banned around here cause you guys lead them on...you should adjust yourself...this crap is nothing more than crap...Someone will see my point... :rolleyes:

Uh, TOC, when's the last time you slept? (kidding! kinda)

Honestly, TOC, I just read everything in this thread, twice, and aside from your posts claiming that you were slandered, I can't see anything in a single post where Nifty29 or anyone else has so much as disrespected you or your site, let alone be guilty of having committed slander.

When I started this thread some dismissed the idea of a thread where CM members could shout out their opinions about which RTGs ruled vs ones that suck as flawed because, among other reasons, they just thought that shills would make a bunch of posts raving about RTG casinos. Not too likely that many shills are gonna get away with that, undetected, (and I'm not calling you a "shill", TOC!) huh!?
 
Just FYI for everybody reading this thread:

TOC OPERATES AN RTG CASINO

Im not saying anything else, just making sure everyone is aware.


@bern - yep bankroll management is what turned things around for me many years ago.

With all due respect, I'd suggest you read the thread for a third time and then study the many definitions of the word slander before addressing my replies. Among other members too.
In law, defamationalso called calumny, libel, slander (for spoken words), and vilification (for written or otherwise published words)is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.
I may need to break this down so you'll understand.
1. defamationalso called calumny, libel, slander (for spoken words)
2. is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.
3. May I point out the words Factual, Individual, business and Negative Image.

The above quote from Nifty is what fired me up a few days ago because it was intended to stir up problems, my opinion and it was defiantly slander per the above definition. I don't run an RTG Online Casino as implied above and it gave me, my website a negative image. As I tried to explain I operate a White Label casino which is like any affiliate site operator on CM's forum. I have two, not one casino that I support on the site along with a sports book, race book etc..
I don't advertise around here and I'm not looking for players from CM's site. I pay for advertising. But darned if I'm not going to stand up for myself in a public forum whether the groupies around here like it or not. Again, not trying to cause a problem just replying to what you said to me bernynhel.
The above is undisputed facts, sorry. :rolleyes:
 
@TOC

If there's one pejorative that gets me going it's when folks refer to those with a differing opinion as "groupies".

The implication that a number of members are deliberately and maliciously colluding to denigrate another member is not only usually inaccurate, but also generally insulting imo, implying that there is an inability to form one's own opinion.

My individual opinion is that Nifty was right to draw attention to your position as an RTG supporter/white label operator, given your previous contributions here, and that he certainly did not intend to defame of even offend you.

Using the riposte that you are being libelled is therefore pretty much irrelevant to this discussion - again in my individual opinion.

TOC, if I may offer a suggestion; it's not the best idea to imply that other members on a message board are defaming/slandering/libelling/whatever you and could thus be open to litigation. The implied threat of legal action is in very bad taste and lacks the means of practical application for a whole range of considerations if you really think about it.

But the main thing is that it really isn't the convention to hint however remotely at such threats on a forum, presumably in the hope of silencing critics. That's why you so rarely see it being done.

BTW why the coyness on the identity of your white label? I can see you understandably take some pride in it, and your posts here have almost certainly heightened curiousity regarding it.
 
@TOC

If there's one pejorative that gets me going it's when folks refer to those with a differing opinion as "groupies".

The implication that a number of members are deliberately and maliciously colluding to denigrate another member is not only usually inaccurate, but also generally insulting imo, implying that there is an inability to form one's own opinion.

My individual opinion is that Nifty was right to draw attention to your position as an RTG supporter/white label operator, given your previous contributions here, and that he certainly did not intend to defame of even offend you.

Using the riposte that you are being libelled is therefore pretty much irrelevant to this discussion - again in my individual opinion.

TOC, if I may offer a suggestion; it's not the best idea to imply that other members on a message board are defaming/slandering/libelling/whatever you and could thus be open to litigation. The implied threat of legal action is in very bad taste and lacks the means of practical application for a whole range of considerations if you really think about it.

But the main thing is that it really isn't the convention to hint however remotely at such threats on a forum, presumably in the hope of silencing critics. That's why you so rarely see it being done.

BTW why the coyness on the identity of your white label? I can see you understandably take some pride in it, and your posts here have almost certainly heightened curiousity regarding it.

Really why must I go on? Jetset with over 11,031 posts you should see my point unless you're looking for 11,032? If I may address your questions, yes I address the older CM crowd as groupies, old timers, and whatever, why do you take this as an insult? They cause problems and keep dead threads going like yourself. I directed my post to Nifty & bernynhel only so where you get I'm ragging all members is incorrect. I only suggested that the new members take a look at what I'm saying. Your opinion is appreciated but facts are facts so why do you defend someone that's addressed and slandered me personally? I've never addressed litigation only facts. Right I'm gonna waste my time with litigation over my site or any member on CM! :) Bahaaa!! I've never threaten anyone on this site, only stated facts, you're wrong and out of line. If you for some reason you need the site address PM me like any normal member would do.
 
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[slight derail]
Just wanted to say thanks to the All Star Slots rep who got my account straightened out. :thumbsup:
[/derail]

Back to what you were doing.
 
Ive read all the new stuff you posted TOC, and it just churns over and over the same point:

slandered me personally

Did I mention the defence to slander/libel/defamation is truth??

You DO, by your own admission, operate an RTG casino (be it while label or whatever)

Hence, there can be no libel etc as I stated a fact.

The only way anyone could read this to be defamatory is if you didnt want to be associated with RTG.....which doesnt make sense as you obviously rate them.

Its also proper to note that I didnt:

1. Mention your name (only your forum alias)
2. Mention the name of your casino/white label/etc
3. Make any disparaging remarks about any of the above.

I mean, why didnt you just say 'yep I operate an RTG casino but Ill try to be open-minded in my responses bla bla bla' and move on. Instead, you have turned it into a thread that is all about how awful everyone is treating you and how the senior members of the forum have some kind of hidden agenda to destroy your as-yet-unnamed website and 'personal' credibility. Come on TOC, behave like an adult and stop de-railing this thread any more than you have.
 
With all due respect, I'd suggest you read the thread for a third time and then study the many definitions of the word slander before addressing my replies. Among other members too.
In law, defamationalso called calumny, libel, slander (for spoken words), and vilification (for written or otherwise published words)is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.
I may need to break this down so you'll understand.
1. defamationalso called calumny, libel, slander (for spoken words)
2. is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.
3. May I point out the words Factual, Individual, business and Negative Image.

The above quote from Nifty is what fired me up a few days ago because it was intended to stir up problems, my opinion and it was defiantly slander per the above definition. I don't run an RTG Online Casino as implied above and it gave me, my website a negative image. As I tried to explain I operate a White Label casino which is like any affiliate site operator on CM's forum. I have two, not one casino that I support on the site along with a sports book, race book etc..
I don't advertise around here and I'm not looking for players from CM's site. I pay for advertising. But darned if I'm not going to stand up for myself in a public forum whether the groupies around here like it or not. Again, not trying to cause a problem just replying to what you said to me bernynhel.
The above is undisputed facts, sorry. :rolleyes:

I started this thread for CM members to give their opinions about what RTG casinos they like or dislike, not for you to air your delusional, paranoid rants or strut your legal expertise, which, from the looks of things, is just another delusion. Now they gotta wade through all your BS to read RTG posts. Ever hear a the phrase, "Take it outside"?

No one needs to paint you in a funky light, you've done a great job, unassisted. Even if all of your claims of slanderous posts about you were true, they'd make you and your website look good compared to your own, whiny posts.

And you wanna break what down for me? I was schooled at Boalt Hall. You?
 
Really why must I go on? Jetset with over 11,031 posts you should see my point unless you're looking for 11,032? If I may address your questions, yes I address the older CM crowd as groupies, old timers, and whatever, why do you take this as an insult? They cause problems and keep dead threads going like yourself. I directed my post to Nifty & bernynhel only so where you get I'm ragging all members is incorrect. I only suggested that the new members take a look at what I'm saying. Your opinion is appreciated but facts are facts so why do you defend someone that's addressed and slandered me personally? I've never addressed litigation only facts. Right I'm gonna waste my time with litigation over my site or any member on CM! :) Bahaaa!! I've never threaten anyone on this site, only stated facts, you're wrong and out of line. If you for some reason you need the site address PM me like any normal member would do.

I'm clearly wasting my time in trying to present you with an alternative to the unfortunate and overly sensitive manner in which you have been conducting yourself here - and if you did not wish to imply the possibility of litigation as a threat, why bother bringing it up at all?

If you are uncomfortable revealing your white label brand, then I respect your right not to do so.

There's no conspiracy to discredit you here, just members voicing an opinion as they are all entitled to do - and the number of posts any member makes at Casinomeister is irrelevent; it's usually a function of the amount of time they have been members.
 
Getting back on track. I am sooooooo bummed that RTG's have gone so stingy for what can be long periods of time and then bam! hit you with a couple nice wins here and there and then it's back to the dry spells. I love the slots RTG offers, but when you are playing spins in the hundreds and not hitting any features or only occasionally hitting a few that don't even come close to your investment to get it, it's sad :eek2:.
What I have noticed for a long time, is that the good wins will only be on the bonus rounds but not even there all the time, the regular spins rarely net anything that will boost your money back up. It's always 2 of this or 3 of that, rarely is it 4 of this and 5 of that. So unless you get the free spins to save your little investment, you're sunk.
You would think that with RTG's glutting the online gaming market that a few would stay a little more generous in the return, just to keep their customers. As it is, we just keep floating around trying them all, putting them aside, then coming back to try them all again. And with each come back they're fewer on our lists. I would think if they saw that having customers that stayed and only spent with them, that they would be happy with this. But maybe they see that down the road, due to economic conditions worsening that online players are going to deminish, so they're getting it while the gettin's good.
 
Rtg's

Where do I start! Gold VIP has burned me for around $1400.00. Palace of chance has denied me a withdrawl for $900.00. And there are others I can't remember because I don't and never will deposit at an RTG ever again.
 
Palace of chance has denied me a withdrawl for $900.00. And there are others I can't remember because I don't and never will deposit at an RTG ever again.
Hm and only because you've played in ROGUE RTG Casinos, you'll never play there again?

Maybe you should try at first the accredited Casinos and not the Rogues? ;)

There are so much out here, but you must certainly also look for it :)
 
In all fairness to Edspeere, who hasn't waded through the rogue pits at one time or another, until we learn about forums, rogue lists and such.
New players are daily being dupped by the unscrupulous affiliates that continue to praise and advertise these Rogue sites. Makes one wonder why, they must be getting some good commissions for aiding in the rip off.
But through trial and error and learning more about the good and the bad a player can become more savy when finding sites like this that have very good and well seasoned players and affiliates that do help a tremendous deal. Here one finds many lessons to be learned and the school of hard knocks is lessend by reading and listening to those that are seasoned players and reputable affiliates. This site is PRICELESS!
I have gone through the pits at one time as many do, but not anymore,.
A big THANK YOU, to all you good people here on CM that are always ready to lend your experience and advice to help others along the way.:thumbsup:
 

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